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CNBC: Associated Press is reporting that Strasburg may need TJ Surgery

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    Glad I didn't waste my money on his rookie cards!
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭

    I imagine this is about the worst thing that could happen to baseball cards at this moment.

    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I imagine this is about the worst thing that could happen to baseball cards at this moment. >>



    I think that is only if you invested in his cards. This is bad news for the Nationals though.
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  • mexpo75mexpo75 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm glad I only went after the Harrisburg sets. As a lifelong expo/national fan, looks like I have to wait for 2012!
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  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    I just think its bad for baseball - he was a name that non-fans knew and could have maintained their interest with a continued strong rookie year. Some will gloat with 'I told you so's', but I don't see what's so great about a young uber-talent getting hurt.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭
    As a Nats fan I think he should have TJ now. The Nats won't do crap next year anyway, so get it done now and he can come back stronger for 2012.
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    can Bryce Harper pitch? image

  • cincyredlegscincyredlegs Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭
    The sad thing is he might never do anything at the MLB level again. I know TJ surgery has come a long way but you never know. This is the reason you never take a gamble (cards wise) on pitchers. Just to many reasons for them to flame out.
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  • It's going to be a Y2K panic now for some people. Those who sold early are no happy no doubt. I imagine you can buy some cheap in the next few days and hope for the best.
  • Topps should do a dual Tommy John/Strasburg card and maybe do the same for other TJ surgeries.
  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see down arrows on the Superfractor! image
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


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    << <i>I imagine this is about the worst thing that could happen to baseball cards at this moment. >>



    I think that is only if you invested in his cards. This is bad news for the Nationals though. >>




    Have you seen the interest in 2010 baseball cards? All products have been selling out months in advance because of the Stras rc. Products that are not completely out yet. Someone like just Dave and Adams took a big hit, the local hobby shop and anyone that preordered boxes.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    ok, EVERYBODY! OFF THE BRIDGE!!!
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>ok, EVERYBODY! OFF THE BRIDGE!!! >>



    And using collector mentality.....onto the Jason Heyward bridge?
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


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    << <i>ok, EVERYBODY! OFF THE BRIDGE!!! >>



    And using collector mentality.....onto the Jason Heyward bridge? >>



    already detected a hitch in his swing.....of course, the guy most qualified to exploit it, is......well.......ya know. image
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Are any of these prices in the attractive range?



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  • mcolney1mcolney1 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭
    Topps should do a dual Tommy John/Strasburg card and maybe do the same for other TJ surgeries.


    Maybe they could throw in a ligament relic?
    Collecting Topps, Philadelphia and Kellogg's from 1964-1989


  • << <i>Topps should do a dual Tommy John/Strasburg card and maybe do the same for other TJ surgeries.


    Maybe they could throw in a ligament relic? >>



    Except for the ligament part, I wrote the same thing not to long ago. Maybe Tommy John can be inducted into the HOF as a contributor for lending his name to the surgery since he didn't make it as a player?
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>Are any of these prices in the attractive range?



    Strasburg Cards On EBAY >>




    this represents a turning point for PSA and other TPG's as the wave of Strasburg subs turn to dust in the postman's satchel.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Are any of these prices in the attractive range?



    Strasburg Cards On EBAY >>




    Maybe this one...

    2010 Bowman Prospects Strasburg PSA 8

    It's a "RARE CARD IN PSA 8!!!!."

    I hope the seller is not one of us.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • bxbbxb Posts: 805 ✭✭
    They brought him along too fast.
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  • Good Day,
    So, didn't some card of his sell for like 17-25K a while back? What's it worth today? $3 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    at least the Titanic didn't hit the iceberg until after The National.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Somewhere Dpeck is smiling...................


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  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    18 month rehab is only the start. It will probably take another 12 months just to find out what level he can pitch at. Kerry Wood was never the same after TJ surgery.
    Mike
  • I think he needs Tommy John because of all the auto's he's signed in the past few months.
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    or maybe all the cap waving. image
  • Maybe Strasburg and Mark Prior can get some guys together and start a traveling team.


  • << <i>I just think its bad for baseball - he was a name that non-fans knew and could have maintained their interest with a continued strong rookie year. Some will gloat with 'I told you so's', but I don't see what's so great about a young uber-talent getting hurt. >>



    Very well put.


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    << <i>I imagine this is about the worst thing that could happen to baseball cards at this moment. >>



    I think that is only if you invested in his cards. This is bad news for the Nationals though. >>




    Have you seen the interest in 2010 baseball cards? All products have been selling out months in advance because of the Stras rc. Products that are not completely out yet. Someone like just Dave and Adams took a big hit, the local hobby shop and anyone that preordered boxes. >>



    I already paid for 2 hobby boxes of 2010 Bowman Chrome. They don't come out until October image
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I imagine this is about the worst thing that could happen to baseball cards at this moment. >>



    I think that is only if you invested in his cards. This is bad news for the Nationals though. >>




    Have you seen the interest in 2010 baseball cards? All products have been selling out months in advance because of the Stras rc. Products that are not completely out yet. Someone like just Dave and Adams took a big hit, the local hobby shop and anyone that preordered boxes. >>



    I already paid for 2 hobby boxes of 2010 Bowman Chrome. They don't come out until October image >>



    Ditto
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I already paid for 2 hobby boxes of 2010 Bowman Chrome. They don't come out until October image >>

    You will be ok there I think - lots of new prospects/autos coming out that should be solid (Sano, Chapman, Alonzo, Wallace, etc).
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.


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    << <i>I already paid for 2 hobby boxes of 2010 Bowman Chrome. They don't come out until October image >>

    You will be ok there I think - lots of new prospects/autos coming out that should be solid (Sano, Chapman, Alonzo, Wallace, etc). >>



    Might this be a time when you open up a pack and say "Yes! I did NOT get a Strasburg!"
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    It's a shame he got hurt.....you hate to see any prospect have to have surgery....even veterans that go down....I remember years ago when the Indians signed Wayne Garland....now there's a name from the past...he had arm problems and was never the same. Probably why they don't sign anyone anymore....or at least part of the reason.


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    << <i>I already paid for 2 hobby boxes of 2010 Bowman Chrome. They don't come out until October image >>

    You will be ok there I think - lots of new prospects/autos coming out that should be solid (Sano, Chapman, Alonzo, Wallace, etc). >>



    Might this be a time when you open up a pack and say "Yes! I did NOT get a Strasburg!" >>



    It is almost a guaranteed certainty that I will pull a Strasburg auto #'d to 25 or less.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Bryce Harper now becomes THE card to get in the 2010 Bowman. Prices were super inflated anyway for that product with some online retailers gouging at near $200 per hobby box. The only people hurt by this news, other than Strasburg and the Nationals of course, is the people who tried to get way too much for their Strasburg cards and now will have to HOPE to get half of what was probably offered to them just a month ago.

    The good news is that those collectors who wanted a SS card for their collection can now afford it. 12-18 months is a long time, but it is evident that he wont be pitching in the majors again until 2012.

    Been told since I started collecting that collecting pitchers with the hopes of reselling them is the cardinal mistake, this does nothing to disprove that theory.
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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    So, didn't some card of his sell for like 17-25K a while back? What's it worth today? $3 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Exactly my thoughts. I thought the people were morons who paid that money and now it's confirmed. I am sorry this happened to whoever you are who paid that silly money for a rookie's cardboard. Better luck with your next gamble... or maybe just go to Vegas with your money!?
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Strasburg never threw more than 99 pitches in a single game while he's been in the majors. They've handled him with the utmost care.

    A lot of folks have pointed out that his mechanics were going to be a problem before he made his debut.
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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
    I wonder what beckett grading is thinking now? Remember they over graded the 2 rookie 1/1 cards that sold for 16,000 and 17,000...



  • << <i>Bryce Harper now becomes THE card to get in the 2010 Bowman. >>



    I beg to differ. Aroldis Chapman is a beast and has been showing it in the minors. 122 Ks in 96 innings. Fastball in the 99-102 range. Just for snorts and giggles, he has a .400 batting average. If he was 24 instead of 22, he would be in the majors already.
  • Glad I only collect football !!!
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Rob Dibble had an interesting take on things this weekend.

    Dibble to Strasburg: Suck it up!
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  • Maybe 2011 A&G will carry Strasburg surgery relics next year?
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Glad I only collect football !!! >>




    98% of my newer cards are football.

    Much less worrries. A can't miss in the NFL....is usually at the min. going to be a mega star from his college and eventually have his jersey retired. et, al.

    Plus....we could care less how many steroids or whatever you are using. (Am I allowed to say that...or is it suppose to be unspoken?)

    And it is the biggest and fastest growing American sport. (Not counting sports with very few events...like NASCAR or Horse Racing).
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.


  • << <i>Rob Dibble had an interesting take on things this weekend.

    Dibble to Strasburg: Suck it up! >>




    Who?
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad I only collect football !!! >>



    I think football is way more of a crapshoot - I'll pass. Save a few rare folks at each position, the turnover rate of 'elite' is high. QB is about the only position where a guy can stay elite for a long time (and maybe wr if they always have a solid QB), but by the time you know a QB is good the prices are sky high.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Rob Dibble had an interesting take on things this weekend.

    Dibble to Strasburg: Suck it up! >>




    I think Dibble is pretty spot on. Not to the point of overusing him...al la Dwight Gooden, but it really donesn't make sense to me to have it be a question.

    With modern tech and all a doctor should be able to tell you, you can pitch, you can pitch a couple innings, you can not pitch...I would imagine?

    Dibble played AAA here with Eric Davis. He was a pretty big prospect at one time, but ended up being so-so. (Which means you are better then 1000s...but still..)


    I really miss not having a AAA here, and was not smart enough all those years to take advantage of it ($ wise).
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Dibble's currently the color analyst for the Nationals. He was put on administrative leave after making the comments.

    Apparently Dibble just thought Strasburg was being a wimp and sounded off on it. Turns out, Stras was hurt.
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  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    I'm LMFAO at the guy's who paid crazy money.

    Seriously, I really am. image



    Sorry if it was any of you though. image
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Bryce Harper now becomes THE card to get in the 2010 Bowman. >>



    I beg to differ. Aroldis Chapman is a beast and has been showing it in the minors. 122 Ks in 96 innings. Fastball in the 99-102 range. Just for snorts and giggles, he has a .400 batting average. If he was 24 instead of 22, he would be in the majors already. >>




    In the long run, possibly. Right now, outside of baseball fans, Chapman is a rather obscure name. Harper has the name and news stories behind it to go along with it. From a standpoint of value, Harper will keep Bowman afloat until the other rookies blossom. As a Reds fan, I am well aware of Chapman, the reason he isnt in the majors is not because of his age, but because his command right now is sub-par (not my viewpoint, just those of the Reds organization). Harper's card, being an insert, is also more difficult to obtain. Chapman may, in the long run, be the better player and possibly even more valuable, but for now, most collectors would rather have a Harper than a Chapman.
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