Thinking of cracking this out and dipping it in ammonia then resubmitting.

Alltheabove76 · July 5, 2010 1:57PM

Would that get the crud off of it without hurting the luster?

Goldbully · July 5, 2010 1:59PM

U got Ballzzzz!!!

Alltheabove76 · July 5, 2010 2:00PM

I dont want to change the surface, just remove whatever the hell foreign substance dried on there. Maybe acetone would be better. It looks like someone used it for a coaster.

morgandollar1878 · July 5, 2010 2:06PM

I don't think that it would come back as a 65 if you cracked it out. IMO those spots look like milk spots and won't come off. Although I have heard that someone around here on these boards knows how to get them off without hurting he coin. But I am not sure who it was or how true that may be.

Bochiman · July 5, 2010 2:09PM

Contact PCGS customer service.
Send it in as a grade guarantee/conservation/whatever.

They will likely be able to do a better job of conserving the coin than you would...if not, I don't think it is a MS65 currently and they likely wouldn't either, with that gunk on there, and you should be compensated.

Crack it out and you get NO compensation and it may not be conserved well.

Alltheabove76 · July 5, 2010 2:15PM

<< <i>Contact PCGS customer service.
Send it in as a grade guarantee/conservation/whatever.

They will likely be able to do a better job of conserving the coin than you would...if not, I don't think it is a MS65 currently and they likely wouldn't either, with that gunk on there, and you should be compensated.

Crack it out and you get NO compensation and it may not be conserved well. >>

Thanks, I didnt know they would do that.

Bochiman · July 5, 2010 2:23PM

I remember hearing they would do that before....I don't think it is something they promote, but I think they still do it.
Else, they would be eating a lot more coins that get sent in, I would think.

soty27 · July 5, 2010 2:34PM

<< <i> they would be eating a long more coins that get sent in. >>

??

Peaceman · July 5, 2010 3:13PM

Water spots can't be removed.... NCS can't do it either while keeping the coin "original". Just find another really nice 65....

WTCG · July 5, 2010 3:43PM

That stuff on the surface won't come off completely.

DennisH · July 5, 2010 3:58PM

I'd listen to Wei on this.

My gut reaction is some of the stuff would come off, but not all. The marks/scuffs on the upper and lower neck are reason for MS64 concern in my book, but the luster is outstanding. 1922 is a common date, so I wouldn't be afraid to give it a try with ammonia.

Also, I don't believe that PCGS officially does conservation service of any kind, other than minor PVC removal.

LindeDad · July 5, 2010 4:16PM

Looks like improper rinse after being dipped and the residue is now turning.
Send it in for grade review to get your money back it sure isn't the grade on the insert anymore.

PerryHall · July 5, 2010 5:12PM

I'm curious as to why you would buy this coin if you don't like those milk spots. Since you don't like it. sell it and buy a coin that you do like.

frnklnlvr · July 5, 2010 6:54PM

I sent this coin back to PCGS and they removed the fingerprint.

(BTW, the streak in front of the face is on the holder)

tydye · July 5, 2010 8:38PM

<< <i>Looks like improper rinse after being dipped and the residue is now turning. >>

100% agree

ricko · July 5, 2010 10:56PM

Wei has it correct... get a new coin. Cheers, RickO

lkeigwin · July 5, 2010 11:25PM

Send it to PCGS for a grade review. On the submission form make it clear in bold letters that you are concerned by the spotting. It is free.

PCGS will do one of these:
1) Send it back untouched saying "good enough for 65"
2) Tell you it is now only a 63 for example, and invoke their guarantee (payback w/ or w/o coin, etc.)
3) Crack it, conserve it, reslab it at the same grade, and return it.

I have had all of these happen more than once and there is no downside to any of them.

Figure 3-4 months.
Lance.

mr1931S · July 6, 2010 12:30AM

I once had a PCGS slabbed Peace Dollar that looked a lot like this one.

Sent it to them and they reslabbed it.No change in grade.No compensation.

Ammonia on this one? You have got to be kidding. An Ammonia dip will destroy the luster and turn your Peace dollar into a junker.

Frankcoins · July 6, 2010 9:34AM

<< <i>Looks like improper rinse after being dipped and the residue is now turning.
Send it in for grade review to get your money back it sure isn't the grade on the insert anymore. >>

Mint made - after annealing, silver planchets are black/brown. The mint dips them in acid to make them bright before striking. Improper rinsing
results in these water spots. Being struck into the coin, they cannot be removed without harsh cleaning. Since these are "as made" they are
accepted by collectors and the grading services with a deduction for eye appeal. MS65 grade will hold for a bold strike, booming luster and lack
of marks as this coin exhibits.

coindeuce · July 6, 2010 2:24PM

Frank nailed it. In 1922, 1923 and part of 1924 the Philadelphia Mint failed to properly rinse the annealed blanks for Peace Dollar production. The source of the rinse water used was found to be the fault.

BigE · July 6, 2010 2:57PM

I think it is a great coin just the way it is--------------------BigE

homerunhall · July 6, 2010 3:16PM

White spots on Peace dollars are a somewhat common occurrence. Unfortunately, it's in the metal and won't dip off. At PCGS we consider the white spots a little negative (if they're mild) and very negative and a one or two point deduction if they're gross.

hrh

Type2 · July 6, 2010 3:33PM

There it is. But it's a nice coin.

Bochiman · July 6, 2010 4:04PM

That's too bad.
For me, I would ditch the coin (maybe TT to get the eyeballs for it and not to take a negative on ebay if someone gets a wild idea) even if it meant buying a lower graded, better eye appealing, example.

Boom · July 6, 2010 6:32PM

HRH gave you his Professional opinion FREE of charge!

I would tend to believe him and discourage what you're considering doing.

JMHO - FWIW, but personally, I'd just leave it alone.

Good Luck

Thinking of cracking this out and dipping it in ammonia then resubmitting.

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