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Teva
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Today I went to a local coin show and decided to buy some bullion silver but got to looking around and saw some 90% silver proof sets for about two dollars over spot 1963's and 1964's they were all open flat packs so I bought 12 of them really did not even look at them.
Pulled out one at the dealers table and bought all he had. Got out to the car and before I left I decided to inspect the items I bought.
In two of the envelopes there were 1955 proof sets instead
of 1963 sets. So I went back in and returned them to him and he went through his 1955 flat packs and there were the two 1963's.
He then gave me a 1958 set for being honest.
I felt kind of bad letting him give it to me but I took it anyway because it seemed important to the old dude that I take it.
Pulled out one at the dealers table and bought all he had. Got out to the car and before I left I decided to inspect the items I bought.
In two of the envelopes there were 1955 proof sets instead
of 1963 sets. So I went back in and returned them to him and he went through his 1955 flat packs and there were the two 1963's.
He then gave me a 1958 set for being honest.
I felt kind of bad letting him give it to me but I took it anyway because it seemed important to the old dude that I take it.
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Edited to take the negativity out of the thread and keep it for what it is worth.
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<< <i>That is awfaul nice of ya'!
But to keep it sort of relative, had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have contacted you to let you know that he bought the coins as such. I am just saying!
Do you know the dealer to say such a thing about him? If not, you might be going by the odds, but are still being unfair to the individual in question.
You were honet with the dealer, and he rewarded you. I wish we could have more good customer - merchant stories like this.
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<< <i>Teva, good for you for doing the right thing. And good for the dealer for showing that he was appreciative. Each of you, no doubt, felt good about what you did.
<< <i>That is awfaul nice of ya'!
But to keep it sort of relative, had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have contacted you to let you know that he bought the coins as such. I am just saying!
Do you know the dealer to say such a thing about him? If not, you might be going by the odds, but are still being unfair to the individual in question. >>
No, I do not. And I am not trying to play the devils advocate, but I do know dealers and even the most honest would not be that honest. I myself would go back into a store and pay for something that was not charged of me, but I have been in many, many coin shops that have taken advantage of one's lack of knowledge. I am sorry for being a little honest with my answer. I love the idea of some integrity from a patron which you surely do not see very often. I just wish I saw more integrity from the dealers I have crossed paths with. And no, I am not trying to start a flame war, nor am I saying that all dealers are dishonest. I am simply stating my opinion. >>
Of course there are dishonest dealers, just as there are honest ones. I know plenty of dealers who would have done the same if "the shoe been on the other foot".
You are obviously entitled your opinion. But you stated it as fact ("had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have contacted you to let you know that he bought the coins as such".). And you did so without knowing anything about the person, other than that he was a dealer and that he had rewarded the customer for his honesty.
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<< <i>Teva, good for you for doing the right thing. And good for the dealer for showing that he was appreciative. Each of you, no doubt, felt good about what you did.
<< <i>That is awfaul nice of ya'!
But to keep it sort of relative, had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have contacted you to let you know that he bought the coins as such. I am just saying!
Do you know the dealer to say such a thing about him? If not, you might be going by the odds, but are still being unfair to the individual in question. >>
No, I do not. And I am not trying to play the devils advocate, but I do know dealers and even the most honest would not be that honest. I myself would go back into a store and pay for something that was not charged of me, but I have been in many, many coin shops that have taken advantage of one's lack of knowledge. I am sorry for being a little honest with my answer. I love the idea of some integrity from a patron which you surely do not see very often. I just wish I saw more integrity from the dealers I have crossed paths with. And no, I am not trying to start a flame war, nor am I saying that all dealers are dishonest. I am simply stating my opinion. >>
Of course there are dishonest dealers, just as there are honest ones. And you are obviously entitled your opinion. But you stated your opinion as fact ("had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have contacted you to let you know that he bought the coins as such".). And you did so without knowing anything about the person, other than that he was a dealer and that he had rewarded the customer for his honesty. >>
Understood, Mark. Although, I respect you very much, I do not feel that you should have such thin skin as you do. I am sorry for my general statement, but I am in the opinion that it is mostly the case that a dealer will take advantage of a situation. Whether you agree or not, you cannot prove nor disprove my statement, as I cannot prove or disprove your general opinion that dealers are all honest. >>
Saying that it is "mostly the case that a dealer will take advantage of a situation" is not the same thing as saying "had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have contacted you to let you know that he bought the coins as such". The former is a generalization, whereas the latter is a specific accusation against a particular person.
And please do not misstate my general opinion - I never said, nor do I believe that "dealers are all honest". I have already posted to this thread "Of course there are dishonest dealers, just as there are honest ones.".
I would of given it back no matter who it was thats the guy my daddy raised.
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I would of given it back no matter who it was thats the guy my daddy raised. >>
Please don't feel bad about accepting the 58 proof set. The individual was simply trying to extend his gratitude in a tangible manner.
My father, rest his soul, was a Marine DI in Korea. All of his children were educated in a similar manner - must be something w/Marines and belts. Heaven knows, we knew and still know honesty and discipline. Almost every day, the lessons my Dad taught me pay handsome dividends.
People such as yourself make the world a better place. Thanks for the day brightener.
If eveyone did the right thing (as you did) the world would be better for it.
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I can see how this could happen. I have gotten into the habit of trying to check everything before i leave a store if possible. Many a time in the past at a hardware store there can be a small part missing. Saves on the irratation factor.
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I knew it would happen.
I have to wonder if this is a way that less than honorable people rip off dealers. Swap one proof set date for a less expensive date. Easy for a perp to do when a table is busy. So it would behoove dealers to double check the sets before completing the sale. Of course, it may have just been a simple error, but it got me thinking as I look at lots of proof sets.
Thanks for sharing.
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<< <i>Good for you, honesty is it's own reward, but it is nice to get somethingalso. I wonder how old the "old dude " is?
Jerry - Probably younger than us !! LOL
Good move, Teva.
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<< <i>Its called the golden rule a little lesson my daddy taught me with his belt when I was about five years old and its stuck with me ever since. He was 6'5" went 260 and was a USMC non com officer and new how to leave a impression. Thanks for the compliments
I would of given it back no matter who it was thats the guy my daddy raised. >>
Please don't feel bad about accepting the 58 proof set. The individual was simply trying to extend his gratitude in a tangible manner.
My father, rest his soul, was a Marine DI in Korea. All of his children were educated in a similar manner - must be something w/Marines and belts. Heaven knows, we knew and still know honesty and discipline. Almost every day, the lessons my Dad taught me pay handsome dividends.
People such as yourself make the world a better place. Thanks for the day brightener. >>
Brings back memories..my dad wasnt a marine but one day whenI was about 10 I took a pack of gum in the local store.The guy wasnt looking but another customer was and told him.The owner came up to me and said "where is the gum".I handed to him and he smacked me in the face.I ran home to get my pop and when I told him what happened(expecting him to smack the owner) and got a pretty good beating.Taught me a good lesson.
<< <i>Today I went to a local coin show and decided to buy some bullion silver but got to looking around and saw some 90% silver proof sets for about two dollars over spot 1963's and 1964's they were all open flat packs so I bought 12 of them really did not even look at them.
Pulled out one at the dealers table and bought all he had. Got out to the car and before I left I decided to inspect the items I bought.
In two of the envelopes there were 1955 proof sets instead
of 1963 sets. So I went back in and returned them to him and he went through his 1955 flat packs and there were the two 1963's.
He then gave me a 1958 set for being honest.
I felt kind of bad letting him give it to me but I took it anyway because it seemed important to the old dude that I take it. >>
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
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When I went back to the dealer's table to buy the 2 '55 flat packs that I had switched into '63 envelopes, I was shocked to find ou they were GONE!!
Seriously, though, congratulations on your character and honesty in doing the right thing!
If, as you said, honesty has its own rewards, and you felt uncomfortable taking the '58 set as a reward, might I suggest holding a YN-only giveaway? I promise not to enter. But it would serve not only to allay your consternation, but to also both "pay-it-forward" to a YN while also teaching them a valuable lesson on the importane and virtue of honesty in all one's dealings in life..........
Just a thought.
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<< <i> thats the guy my daddy raised. >>
You mean that's the man he raised. Very good, Teva!