Another high priced Strasburg

metsfan · June 21, 2010 3:07AM

Looks like $16,000+ was nothing compared to this. 2010 Bowman Chrome Red auto Stephen Strasburg 1/1- over $26,000 with 7 days left! Strasburg 1/1

akuracy503 · June 21, 2010 3:09AM

I don't believe the hobby has seen anything like this for new issues....I remember the summer of 2001 was exciting but this takes the cake.

You can't deny It's great for the hobby! Wonder how many kids or new collectors 2010 has seen.

Reljac · June 21, 2010 3:41AM

or how many new adults that want to try a pull at the slot machine!

digicat · June 21, 2010 3:47AM

As crazy as all of this is, it's more "believable" that an auto'ed card would go for 5 figures. I wonder if the guy who bought the Superfractor realized that there was a 1/1 auto out there?

jfkheat · June 21, 2010 4:15AM

All that money for a card that will be worth less than $1000 in a couple years.
James

Aric · June 21, 2010 4:21AM

What I find surprising is that both 1/1 have been pulled already. I wonder what percentage of this product is out there that remains unopened.

Speaking of which, can somebody give the odds on the side of the pack to see if we can calculate how many cases were produced.

storm888 · June 21, 2010 4:35AM

<< All that money for a card that will be worth less than $1000 in a couple years.
James >>

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Great for flippers.

Terrible for suckers.

corvette1340 · June 21, 2010 5:21AM

I wonder how much all of the fake 1 of 1's will go for?

thunderpower · June 21, 2010 5:23AM

Amazing that someone would pay so much for a modern card of a player with no track record.

Vintageismygame · June 21, 2010 5:47AM

What is even more amazing is that this card is just the plain bowman version!!! Wonder what the chrome version will bring??

Matt

hhmag70 · June 21, 2010 6:00AM

Wonder what else 29K could buy?

CNote · June 21, 2010 6:02AM

The seller originally had it at $50K BIN. I wonder how close it'll end up getting to that?

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · June 21, 2010 6:08AM

Crazy people....ebay Stras drawing

mike22y2k · June 21, 2010 6:16AM

Look at the retracted bids under the bidding history. Are these guys caught in a frenzy or what. Have you ever accidently punched in 100,000+ by accident? Whenever a bidder has very little history it always gets me nervous if they will retract once the bidding is over and he realizes how high he bid.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · June 21, 2010 6:34AM

Maybe some high retracted bids are done to see what others max bid is?

Morgoth · June 21, 2010 6:44AM

One thing about the Stras chrome auto. The picture of it shows it as a Green or RC chrome not a prospect auto. I wonder if that will change its value? I find it odd to be in the prospect bowman set but RC set of chrome.

hammered · June 21, 2010 7:15AM

As soon as Strasburg takes his first loss, that card will lose 75% of its value
Just incredible
I wonder, if Strasburg blows out his elbow on his next start, would the winner honor his winning bid?

mcadams · June 21, 2010 9:28AM

<< Crazy people....ebay Stras drawing >>

That is just retarded. I wonder how many of those bids are from mothers/fathers who think they are buying some real card for their kid?

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · June 21, 2010 10:04AM

<< 

<< Crazy people....ebay Stras drawing >>

That is just retarded. I wonder how many of those bids are from mothers/fathers who think they are buying some real card for their kid? >>

lol I can picture Timmy ripping open the package that came. Dad said it was a Topps 1/1 Rookie of Strasburg !! huh what?.......

waxpack · June 21, 2010 11:23AM

<< All that money for a card that will be worth less than $1000 in a couple years.
James >>

You said it brother

larryallen73 · June 21, 2010 12:01PM

That is a fool's purchase. Could it be worth more in the future? It's possible but odds are really high that the card will be worth less in future and probably a lot less. Just moronic.

bigreddog · June 21, 2010 12:25PM

Ya can't cure stupid!

Mefer · June 21, 2010 12:52PM

This is what frustrates me with modern product: everyone wants what is "hot and new" with the latest product. Once you get to the 25th card set issued for the year, or heaven forbid next year, everyone then starts chasing the one of ones/inserts in the newer product and forgets the older product. All "older" new product chase cards, in general, then drop precipitously in price (exceptions being the late blooming hot rookie whose spike and then drop comes later). Base cards (except for maybe Heritage it seems) are fire starter and forgotten. Add into the mix $3.00 or higher packs, and yikes, things get expensive with no solid return UNLESS you win the gamble and sell at the right time. Ugh, makes me want to pull my hair out. Things will not change.

Out of full disclosure, I got caught up in the hype in 2001. Bought tons of new product chasing various inserts. It really became alarming to me how much I spent with so little to show. I then became angry at myself for realizing I could have used that cash for some really nice vintage cards. The only thing I kept from the time was a set I pieced together of bat cards from the UD Hall of Famers set. I do admit I like that set but now that I have it, I have no need or desire for the 765 Babe Ruth bat card variations out there.

After my stupidity of 2001, I realized it is much cheaper just to buy any insert cards that caught my fancy years later after issue and at a much cheaper price. I have picked up a dozen or so ones of favorite players at costs at or below $5.00. Its like I received a box of inserts tailored just for me at the fraction of the cost. I do enjoy those cards too but again, I do not have the desire to collect 45 swatch or bat cards of a single player.

Now with the above said, I don't knock people who enjoy the chase and what the modern card market has become. Good for you if you do! For this old fart, it just leaves me with the feeling of losing a $100.00 hand of black jack and the only person who wins is the house (card dealers/card manufacturers).

Matt

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · June 21, 2010 1:58PM

Superfractor back on ebay

Dpeck100 · June 21, 2010 2:11PM

I won 983 1990 Best cards with 6 Frank Thomas #1, many other stars and a whole box of foil packs not even opened for $16.35 including shipping on EBAY. When Frank Thomas was the baddest hitter in baseball his cards were on fire. He was the next big thing! His 1990 Best card was very rare and exploded. It was one of his top three most expensive cards. I spent every penny I earned during the 1990 season on these cards and was so proud of the complete set I had. I got my final six commons at a card show out of town and spent at least 50 cents a piece. I live in Orlando, FL and was 11 at the time and had the good fortune to watch the Orlando Sun Rays play and all of the top stars from this set came through. I knew a ton of people who bought the CMC/ProCards packs for $1.00 or more at the games and in many cases bought entire boxes. The fact that you can get 1990 Best cards for 1.6 cents a piece just tells you that this is the worst purchase in baseball card history. This card may hold up for a couple of years but it is sure to fall at least 90 to 99 percent at some point. It is the closest thing to guaranteed!!! I am excited that a lottery ticket type situation has happened as the card market could use a major jult. This price at $35,300 as I type this is just beyond absurd. I am hoping a sports bar or some kind of business is buying this as a land mark item and not a long term investment. The fact that you can get the 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle in at least a 7 or 8 for this price vs. a pitcher with 32 innings is mind boggling. I have no issue with a qualified buyer spending a lot of money on investment grade cards. Personally I think you will continue to see a shift to investments that are physical in nature but this takes the cake of stupidity. The banks wanted to issue credit default swaps on most investments. I would be willing to short this card at it's final price and take on all the upside risk in a similar transaction. I think this card is going to go for north of $55,000 at this pace and that is just a guess. If it sells there the ultimate decline will be $54,900 in fifteen or twenty years. There are no modern era cards that will be worth major money I bet. All you have to do is look at older cards and see the massive difference in a grade 7 vs. a grade 10 and you will realize all of these cards issued in near perfect condition will never be worth anything. There are certain stars that will maintain some value but I expect the modern cards to peak shortly before their careers end and then lose value as their retirement begins. I have yet to see any high profile athlete in traditional sports collectibles appreciate in the modern era after retirment. You get a short pop at the Hall of Fame and then the downtrend or side ways actions continues. Only investment grade pieces have a real chance of going up in value. Only time will tell but I think I am right. Just my thoughts.

DP

Arsenal83 · June 21, 2010 4:03PM

I didn't see any 2010 Bowman at BBCE. Where is the best place to get some product?

ElToroLoco · June 21, 2010 4:39PM

<< I didn't see any 2010 Bowman at BBCE. Where is the best place to get some product? >>

You're a little late but can still find hobby boxes for $200 or so on-line. You may as well buy a 3 box lot of Bowman Chrome, you'll just have to wait until October to receive them.

The price for these cards are for attention whores/people looking to be on TV. It can be cheap publicity for a company though. It's amazing to me you can buy a PSA 9 Nolan Ryan for that price. I can't wait until the Bowman Chrome Auto Superfractor is pulled. That'll be the 100K card. haha

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · June 22, 2010 1:20AM

Those Thomas cards are worth .01 because there was a million printed. Doubt there's a million Thomas collectors. Supply>Demand.

These modern 1/1, /50 etc will be a different story. Imagine what a 1/1 Auto Frank Thomas Rookie or a Mantle 1/1 Superfractor would sell for. Now with only 1 company producing 1/1's, it will be even better for holders of these cards. IMO. People dont think this Stras is "worth it". Not saying I would take the gamble but.. A Wagner with what, 20ish existing copies can sell for a million but no one thinks a modern card can ever reach that... Sure the odds are the player will not live up to the hype. Happens all the time. But eventually there's bound to be a superstar to have a untainted HOF career and his 1/1 RC will be highly sought after by people with deep pockets. Time will tell.

Many lose $ collecting the new hot flavor of the day. You have to weed out ones that will be easily forgotten and get the ones to stand out over time. For Baseball, there will be what, 5 cards from each year that will be in demand in the distant future. The more time goes on, the more that "hot" list shortens until only a few standout RC's, rare popular player collector cards or landmark cards remain.

BunchOBull · June 22, 2010 1:30AM

I'm happy to say there aren't any Thomas 1 of 1 rookies...that would really suck for me.

Dpeck100 · June 22, 2010 8:04AM

I was just making a point that many of the hot ticket cards of the day fade. There were 30,000 of the Best sets so millions is a streach. These cards have very little if any ability to appreciate at this point as there are no catalysts and the card market is not going to catch fire anytime soon. I simply found an auction and bid low and won. The list of can't miss prospects is endless and this is just a feeding frenzy. The reason a Wagner card sells for that kind of money is ot has age, limited supply, only a few in high grade, and mystique. The one thing this card has going for it is mystique. I hope he turns out to be a star as it would be great for a number of reasons. I just doubt that this card will be worth more then a few thousand in a few years and if he doesn't live up to the hype a few hundred in many years. Everyone has an opinion and that is what makes a market.

beef316 · June 22, 2010 11:37AM

$39,600 - LOL

Dpeck100 · June 22, 2010 12:08PM

I think it is going to a major round number, my guess is $55,000......and then down she goes!!

Carew29 · June 22, 2010 12:24PM

$41,000 now ....lmao!!

WinPitcher · June 22, 2010 12:42PM

<< Whenever a bidder has very little history it always gets me nervous if they will retract once the bidding is over and he realizes how high he bid. >>

Not sure a bidder can retract once the bidding is over.

If I understood what you said.

Steve

swartz1 · June 22, 2010 9:30PM

Would hate to see him get hit around the by the Royals tonite...

might go for $200,000.00

gonzer · June 22, 2010 9:37PM

Blind hysteria. 100K? Deaf, dumb AND blind.

bobbyw8469 · June 22, 2010 9:41PM

What are the odds the winning bidder won't honor his/her bid?

Dpeck100 · June 22, 2010 9:51PM

This is wild. Anyone remeber the card I attached? So now we are passed a PSA 8 1952 Mantle Topps and on our way to a PSA 8.5 1952 Mantle Topps. When you consider what a $100,000 can get you in sportscards this is the craziest thing ever. This is like Pets.com with no revenue trading as a billion dollar company in 2000. It did not end pretty for that bubble.

Bigjohn69 · June 22, 2010 10:39PM

jeepers, might bid then retract the bid just to say i bid on the highest modern priced card ever, sit back and tell my grand kids one day i did it, lol,, naw,,, bj

Tomi · June 23, 2010 7:53AM

C'mon guys. If he wins 10 games the card will be worth at least $500,000. Solid investment.

csmtampa · June 23, 2010 8:03AM

bla bla bla.....

This is great for the modern card market.

Who cares if the buyer could have a Mantle rookie, Mays rookie, some low pop 1980 Topps cards

, or a complete set of PSA 7 1975 Topps cards

People obviously want this card and will pay whatever it takes to get it. Good for them.

Sportsamerica · June 23, 2010 10:00AM

<< What are the odds the winning bidder won't honor his/her bid? >>

Slim....

mcadams · June 23, 2010 10:22AM

The card definitely reached a new tier today. The high bid was at $53k and then around 2pm pdt a bidder (with only 28 feedback) bid $100,000. Several others followed. The current high bid of $101,800 is from a bidder with feedback of 15.

I hate to say this, but this seller may have been better off paying a live auction house to sell this card, where someone is verifying bidder data more closely before bids are placed. I realize the audience would have been smaller, but..... if the last 5 bids all come from teenage kids who think this is all a big joke, then what has the seller really accomplished?

itzagoner · June 23, 2010 10:34AM

har-har, teenagers, huh? you should look at the bid histories of the top 10 or so bidders, all seem legit with vast lists of attempts to win auctions in the same category.

let's all accept the fact that even on our best day, we won't give a second thought to bidding so ridiculously or laughing our a$$e$ off at those who do......but, these people who are after this card ain't dumb, just wealthy.....there's a Steinbrenner or a Dmitri out there somewhere who will enjoy the attention which accompanies having the Grand Prize.

just accept it.

mcadams · June 23, 2010 10:38AM

I agree that some of the bidders on this card are likely real collectors who intend to pay. But when someone who's only won 15 EBAY auctions over their lifetime is the high bidder on a 6-figure auction, I get nervous.

itzagoner · June 23, 2010 10:43AM

unless that person winds up being about the 30th place underbidder.

jeffcbay · June 23, 2010 10:50AM

The value of his card will only go down if the Nationals continue to give him zero run support! Lost today 1-0 to the Royals! Gave up 9 hits and 1 ER while striking out 9 and walking 0 (again) in 6.0 IP.

mcadams · June 23, 2010 10:51AM

You think it has a chance at $250k, $500k? At this level, some people must view the card as art or as an iconic item of american sports, not just a baseball card.

itzagoner · June 23, 2010 10:52AM

Stephen Strasburg, meet Zack Greinke.

mcadams · June 23, 2010 10:54AM

Not to take the thread off on a tangeant, but I just watched an '87 Topps baseball card in psa10 get 10 bids and sell for $280. We should start a new thread called "Low pop registry madness card of the week"

zep33 · June 23, 2010 10:56AM

<< bla bla bla.....

This is great for the modern card market.

Who cares if the buyer could have a Mantle rookie, Mays rookie, some low pop 1980 Topps cards

, or a complete set of PSA 7 1975 Topps cards

People obviously want this card and will pay whatever it takes to get it. Good for them. >>

yup, whoever's buying this already has that other stuff

Another high priced Strasburg

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