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Should PCGS add a Woman to their "PCGS Board of Experts"?

From simply a business perspective, should PCGS consider adding a woman to their "PCGS Board of Experts" (as shown on the front page of their Website)? Basically, someone other than a middle aged caucasian male!

Displaying a diversity amongst its employees (male/female, Caucasion/African American, etc) could generate a lot more consumer interest amongst collectors, as well as simply advertising that Numismatics is not simply a solely male oriented hobby (which we know it isn't, although a large percentage of people who take part in this hobby are male). Basically diversifying their expert staff.

I'm sure there are some women in this hobby who know a lot, and would be PCGS material, but off-hand I don't have anyone in mind. And this may be the problem PCGS faces, but I'd like to hear some thoughts from the members here on this matter.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good to see that political correctness is alive and well image

    PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho.

    I don't care if they are male/female/in-between, or white/black/yellow/or green.

    When people worry what others look like, instead of how they act, treat others, and what they know, that is when things go downhill.

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    BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    If that woman is the most qualified candidate to be an expert, sure. Never water down quality grading in the name of diversity.

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is a woman on PCGS' Board of Experts.

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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe Ms. Charmy after she gets tired of the Road Warrior Circuit?
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    jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    No. Send the lousy winch to the Supreme Court. Why contaminate The Board any further?





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    kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho. >>



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    partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭

    America was it's greatest when those who worked harder, smarter and faster then the competition ran things. We are falling behind the Chinese because they are using our old model, and beating us because of our own stupidity. Stupidity for the sake of diversity, not a great business decision.

    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
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    CoinFacts Board of Experts

    David Akers


    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Rarities and high-quality examples


    David Akers stared collecting coins in 1949. After graduating from Notre Dame, obtaining a Masters degree in mathematics from Oregon State, and serving as a U.S. Army combat artillery officer in Viet Nam, David became a full time coin dealer in 1971. He was President of one of the largest and most influential dealerships of the 1970s and 1980s, Paramount International Coin Corp

    Between 1975 and 1982, David Akers published a six volume analysis of U.S. gold coins that is considered one of the key references for the market. He conducted numerous very important auctions, including the three part 1997-99 sale of the legendary John J. Pittman collection. He is one of only two dealers to ever receive all three of the Professional Numismatists Guild's three top honors: the Robert Friedberg Literary award, the Abe Kosoff Founders award, and the PNG Lifetime Achievement award. David Akers is considered one of the top rare gold experts of all-time.


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    David Akers (1975/88)


    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Rarities and high-quality examples


    Between 1975 and 1982, coin dealer/high quality-rarity specialist extraordinaire David Akers published a massive six volume set of books on United States gold coins. These six volumes were very influential at the time and have remained an important reference for all serious rare gold dealers and collectors. David also wrote the definitive book on United States gold patterns. David's insight was definitely way ahead of his time. Check out his comments on rarity misconceptions (example: 1932 $20) and coin types and varieties (1839/8 $10) for examples of his going against the "conventional wisdom" of the day. We're still researching his 1975 comments and theory on the 1841 $2.5 Liberty. In 1988, he expanded his comments on the 20th century gold series (1907-1933) in a specialized book on the four series of the 20th century.

    David Akers has graciously allowed PCGS CoinFacts to republish his comments on all United States gold coins, along with comments from his many important auction catalogs, including his sale of the incredible John J. Pittman collection. His comments from his books appear on PCGS CoinFacts as "David Akers 1975/88". David, though now retired, still follows the market and he does make narrative comments on PCGS CoinFacts. His current comments on coins appear on PCGS CoinFacts under the byline of "David Akers".


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    John Dannreuther
    Founder, Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)

    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: U.S. gold and type coins, counterfeit detection, and special strikings.

    John Dannreuther grew up in the rare coin business. His father ran trade paper ads in the 1950s as V.J. Dannreuther and Sons. After graduating from the University of Mississippi with a degree in chemistry, John went back into the coin business, becoming a full-time dealer in 1973. Today he is considered one of the top rare coin experts of all time.

    In 1986, John was one of the co-founders of Professional Coin Grading Service. In 1997, he was the principal text author of "The Official Guide To Coin Grading And Counterfeit Detection," the Numismatic Literary Guild's "Book Of The Year" award winner for 1998.

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    Ron Gillio


    Expertise: All U.S. coins and currency, all World coins and currency
    Specialties: Rarities and large hoards


    Ron Gillio is prehaps the best known coin dealer in the world. He started buying and selling coins in 1961 and since 1970, he has traveled extensively throughout the United States, Europe, and Asia buying and selling U.S. and world coins and currency. In his career, Ron has handled many rarities, including two of the most famous U.S. coin rarities, the 1913 Liberty nickel and the 1894-S dime. He has been one of the largest importers of U.S. gold coins. Since 1970, he has imported more than 1,000,000 U.S. gold coins from various Swiss banks and Central Government Banks in Europe. In 1996, Ron found, negotiated and purchased the famous Wells Fargo hoard, the largest hoard of high quality U.S. $20 gold pieces in history.

    Ron Gillio has owned auction companies in the United States, Hong Kong, and Singapore. He put on his first coin show in the San Fernando Valley in 1967 and was the owner of the very important Long Beach coin show (which he now runs on behalf of Collectors Universe) for many years. Ron has perhaps the broadest base of coin and currency knowledge of anyone in the world as he has handled an incredibly wide spectrum of rare coins and currency from virtually every country in the world. In 1983, Ron collaborated with Walter Breen in writing and publishing the standard reference book for California Fraction Gold. Today these historically important coins trade according to their BG (Breen-Gillio) numbers.

    Ron was on the Board of the Professional Numismatists Guild for 17 years, serving in all of the PNG's officer positions, including President. In 1995, Ron Gillio was given the PNG's Abe Kosoff Founders Award for his significant contributions to the numismatic community.


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    Ron Guth
    President, CoinFacts.com

    Expertise: U.S. and World coins.
    Specialties: Encased Postage, Exonumia, U.S. Colonial Coins, German Coins and Stamps, Civil War Commutation Money.

    Ron Guth is a licensed Certified Public Accountant who has been involved professionally in numismatics for nearly forty years as a collector, dealer, researcher, and writer. For the past two decades, he served as an auctioneer for virtually every major numismatic firm, selling classic rarities such as the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel and the 1804 Silver Dollar.

    In 2001, Ron authored the award-winning Coin Collecting For Dummies. In 2002, he co-authored United States Proof and Mint Sets 1936-2002, which won the Numismatic Literary Guild (NLG) Award for Best Numismatic Investment Book. In 2003, Ron co-authored the best selling book The 100 Greatest U.S. Coins, which went on to win the Professional Numismatic Guild and the NLG Best Book of the Year Awards. In 2003, Ron received the prestigious President's Award from the American Numismatic Association in recognition for his numerous contributions to numismatics. From 2005 to 2008, Ron served as PCGS President before becoming President of CoinFacts.

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    David Hall
    President, Collectors Universe

    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Top quality U.S. type coins, gold, silver dollars, commemoratives, and early 20th century coins.

    David Hall arguably understands collectibles markets and how they work better than anyone in the world. He became a full-time rare coin dealer in 1972 and was quickly one of the major players. In the 1980s he was the man behind the major market innovations of the decade; guaranteed buy/sell markets, electronic trading, and his piece de resistance, the Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS). In 1990 David Hall was named Orange County "Entrepreneur Of The Year" by Inc. Magazine. The February 20, 1996 issue of Numismatic News called him "the man who changed the rare coin market forever." The July, 1999 issue of Coinage Magazine named David Hall one of the top "Numismatists of the Century."

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    Jim Halperin


    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Rarities and high-quality coins


    Jim Halperin is Co-Chairman and an owner of the world's largest rare coin firm, Heritage Auction Galleries. Jim and the traders under his supervision have transacted billions of dollars in the rare coin business. In the 1970s, Jim was founder and owner of New England Rare Coin Galleries, one of the most influential firms of the decade. In 1983, Jim's business merged with that of his friend and former archrival Steve Ivy to create Heritage Auction Galleries, which would became the world's largest rare coin firm and the third-largest auctioneer (of all things) in the world.

    Jim Halperin's coin buying and selling skills are such that he is considered one of the top coin traders of all-time. PCGS founder David Hall once described Jim as the "Michael Jordan of rare coins." Jim's grading skills are such that when PCGS conducted an "open-to-all" "World Series of Grading" contest, Jim finished first in the ultra competitive dealer's division.

    Jim's firm Heritage sells more than $700 million a year. Information about Heritage is available at www.HA.com.


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    Jaime Hernandez
    PCGS Price Guide Editor

    Expertise: U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Copper Coins, Type Coins, and Modern Coins

    By the time he reached his early twenties, Jaime Hernandez was successfully buying and selling coins with some of the most prominent dealers and collectors in the country. He became well-known for finding pricing niches in the coin market and being able to capitalize on them. He joined PCGS in 2005, primarily as the modern coin pricing Editor for the PCGS Price Guide. Jaime has written numerous articles on U.S. coins and is also the editor of the PCGS eCollector e-newsletter. He has contributed his numismatic knowledge and interviewing skills to a number of PCGS videos.

    Contact Jaime at JHernandez@collectors.com.

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    Ron Howard
    Director of Grading, Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)

    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties:U.S. type coins, gold, and rarities.

    Ron Howard has been a collector/hobbyist since 1959. He received his Bachelor of Science degree from the University of Mississippi in 1970 and became a professional numismatist in 1972. Up until 1986, when he joined PCGS as the first grader hired, he was a coin buyer and cataloguer for several major numismatic firms, examining, purchasing, or cataloging virtually all major U.S. collections during that period. He has attended over 300 numismatic conventions. Ron has authored a book on silver dollars and many articles, and has contributed to numerous auction catalogues, including at least four American Numismatic Association auction catalogues.

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    Don Kagin
    CoinFacts Expert

    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Pioneer gold, patterns, and varieties

    Don Kagin has literally spent his whole life in the coin and currency market. His father, Art, and uncle, Paul, were partners in one of the most influential firms of the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, Hollinbeck-Kagin's. Don grew up in the coin and currency market with two of the world's top dealers as his teachers. Don later became the first PhD in numismatics.

    Don is the author of Private Gold Coins and Patterns of the United States, the definitive reference work for this important area of the rare coin market. Don has handled virtually every Pioneer gold coin and has helped assemble some of the greatest collections of all-time. Don is considered to be the number one authority on Pioneer gold.

    Don's inventory of Pioneer gold and other rare and esoteric coins and currency is available for viewing at www.kagins.com

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    Julian Leidman
    Numismatic Expert

    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: U.S. colonial coins, patterns, ultra-rarities, die varieties, Hard Times tokens.

    Julian Leidman began his career as a professional numismatic dealer and consultant over 40 years ago. Julian boasts an unbroken record of attendance at every major U.S. coin auction since 1968, where he represented not only himself but as many as 25 bidders at a time. Along the way, Julian handled some of the most important U.S. coins. He assisted in the completion of the finest collection of double eagles ever assembled, he was involved with the 1973 sale of the renowned Wilkison collection of gold pattern coins, and he assembled specialized collections of all early U.S. coins by die variety. Julian consults with corporations, dealers, and collectors to build world-class collections and to promote numismatics. He received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Professional Numismatists Guild, of which he is a proud member. Contact Julian at Julian@JulianCoin.com or visit his website at www.juliancoin.com.

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    Kevin Lipton


    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Rarities and high-quality examples


    Kevin Lipton started buying and selling coins at age thirteen and within a few years earned a reputation as one of the great numismatic prodigies. At only 16 years old, he was the full-time numismatic buyer for Steve Ivy Rare Coins of Dallas (the firm that became Heritage). At only seventeen years of age, he started his own company, Kevin Lipton Rare Coins, and was one of the major players in the rare coin market, handling some of the rarest U.S. coins and being involved of many of the largest deals of the era. In 1989, Kevin Lipton was the chief advisor to the American Rare Coin Fund L.P., Kidder Peabody’s $25,000,000 rare coin limited partnership. In 2000, Lipton was the recipient of the Professional Numismatist Guild’s "Sol Kaplan Award" for his help in cleansing the profession of fraud and thievery.

    For PCGS CoinFacts, Kevin Lipton is one of the four members of the pricing committee for the Million Dollar Coin Club, the PCGS CoinFacts listing of the approximately 200 U.S. coins now worth a million dollars or more. Kevin is obviously one of the most qualified persons in the world to offer guidance on the pricing of these ultra rare coins.

    Kevin Lipton is one of the greatest coin traders of all-time and has handled most of the important United States coin rarities. He has sold over one billion dollars worth of high quality rare coins. Today he remains one of the largest and most active buyers and sellers of U.S. rare coins. He attends every major coin show and participates in every major coin auction. He is one of the top buyers of U.S. coin rarities. Those interested in selling (or buying) U.S. coin rarities can contact Kevin at his office weekdays at 310-712-8118.


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    Denis W. Loring
    Numismatic Expert

    Expertise: All U.S. coins
    Specialties: U.S. Large Cents, particularly Sheldon varieties and Proofs, Capped Bust Quarter Dollars by Browning variety.

    Denis W. Loring has been specializing in large cents for over 40 years, and he is one of the top experts of all-time for this specialized field. Denis is a founding member of the Early American Coppers club, and currently serves as its President. He is a Consulting and Contributing Editor for Penny-Wise, the bimonthly journal of EAC, and the author of numerous articles. His cataloging credits include such well-known large cent auctions as Ruby, Norweb, Rasmussen and Husak. He wrote the grading standards for large cents found in the standard ANA grading guide. He is a member of ANA, ANS, NLG, JRCS, NBS and the Rittenhouse Society, and an ANA exhibit judge for both U. S. coins and numismatic literature.

    When not working pursuing his numismatic interests, Denis is a Senior Vice President with RGA Reinsurance Company, the nation's largest life reinsurer. He is a Fellow of the Society of Actuaries, a Member of the American Academy of Actuaries and an ARIAS-certified arbitrator. He is married to Donna Levin, a cruciverbalist, and lives in Singer Island, Florida.

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    John Love


    Expertise: Morgan and Peace Dollars
    Specialties: All Morgan and Peace Dollars

    John Love has handled more Morgan and Peace dollars than anyone in the world. He is quite simply "Mr. Silver Dollar." From his shop in Cut Bank, Montana, John began selling silver dollars in the early 1960s. In the 1970s, he was the world's largest silver dollar dealer and was known for two things, selling very high quality and correctly graded silver dollars, and being able to handle exceptionally large deals.

    Over the years, John Love has been involved in most of the largest and most famous silver dollar deals. He was one of the three distributors of the incredible 484,000 coin LaVere Redfield dollar hoard in the 1970s. And John has handled many of the finest known examples of all of the important dates in the Morgan and Peace dollar series.

    John Love is still active today, buying and selling high quality Morgan and Peace dollars...one at a time, or in huge quantites. John can be contacted at 800-801-4260.

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    Greg Rohan


    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Rarities and high-quality collections


    Greg Rohan is President (and an owner) of the world's largest rare coin firm, Heritage Auction Galleries. At Heritage, Greg oversees the firm's private client group and works with top collectors in every field in which Heritage is active. Actively involved in numismatics for over 35 years, Greg has personally overseen many of the rarest items and most important collections ever handled by the firm, including the purchase and/or sale of the Ed Trompeter Collecction (the world's largest numismatic transaction according to the Guiness Book of World Records), the legendary 1894 San Francisco dime, the 1838 New Orleans half dollar, and the 1804 Silver Dollar (on multiple occasions). During his career, Greg has handled more than $1 billion of rare coins.

    For PCGS CoinFacts, Greg is a member of the four person pricing committee for the PCGS CoinFacts Million Dollar Coin Club, a listing (with prices and condition census) of the approximately 200 U.S. coins now valued at $1,000,000 or more. As PCGS founder David Hall said, "Greg Rohan is probably better qualified than anyone in the world to answer the all important question, 'What would this million dollar coin sell for at auction?'"

    Greg's firm Heritage sells more than $700 million a year. Information about Heritage is available at www.HA.com, and Greg can be reached at Greg@HA.com.


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    Mike Sargent
    Senior Grader, Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)

    Expertise: U.S. coins
    Other Areas: Ancient coins

    Mike Sargent started buying and selling coins as a teenager in 1973. From 1979 to 1989 he worked with Harlan White of the Old Coin Shop in San Diego. He became a PCGS grader in April 1989. Mike's specialty is silver dollars and 20th Century U.S. coins. Mike is also an expert in ancient coins. He has graded literally millions of coins at PCGS and is now considered one of the top coin grading experts in the world.

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    Laura Sperber

    Expertise: High quality U.S. coins.
    Specialties: Gem quality type coins


    Laura Sperber became a full-time coin dealer in 1979. Today she is Co-President of Legend Numismatics. Laura's firm is one of the industry leaders in the acquisition and sales of high quality U.S. rare coins, including ultra rarities. Laura has handled many of the rarest and most famous United States coins including the unique 1870-S Liberty Seated half dime, the 1885 Trade dollar, the 1804 silver dollar, and the famous 1894-S dime, of which she has handled three different specimens. She has owned two of the five known specimens of the legendary 1913 Liberty nickel. Laura and Legend Numismatics have helped build some of the finest sets of U.S. coins in existence.

    For PCGS CoinFacts, Laura lends her expertise to helping us price the ultra rarities for the PCGS CoinFacts Million Dollar Coin Club. The fine quality coins Legend Numismatics specializes in can be viewed at their website, www.legendcoin.com.


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    Mitchell Spivack


    Expertise: Modern U.S. coins.
    Specialties: All modern U.S. coins.

    Mitchell Spivack is one of the nation's leading experts in the area of Modern United States coinage (1932-date) having focused his study in that area of numismatics for the past (25) years. Over the past ten years, he has assisted collectors in building top/world class sets of Mint State or Proof Memorial Cents, Jefferson Nickels, Roosevelt Dimes, Washington Quarters (silver and clad), State Quarters, Franklin Half Dollars, Kennedy Half Dollars, Eisenhower Dollars, Susan B. Anthony Dollars, Sacagawea Dollars, Presidential Dollars, Silver and Gold Modern Commemoratives and all Gold Eagle and Platinum Statue of Liberty coins, to name just a few. Yet, Mitchell’s numismatic expertise crosses over to classic coins as well, where he has assisted collectors with building world class/“Hall of Fame” sets of Two Cent pieces, Shield Nickels. Liberty Nickels, Standing Liberty Quarters, Silver Classic Commemoratives, patterns and classic rarities, such as acting as agent for the purchase and sale of the finest known PCGS graded 1894-S Dime for a record $1,900.000 in 2008. Mitchell is an avid collector as well with (70) PCGS registry sets ongoing at this time spanning a variety of coin series from patterns through Presidential Dollars. Mitchell has been PCGS' outside Modern expert for the Price Guide since 2007 and serves as a member of PCGS' Advisory Board. Mitchell received his B.A. from Rutgers University in 1980 and his Juris Doctorate from the University of Maryland School of Law in 1983 and is currently an inactive member of the California State Bar. Mitchell’s web site is www.wondercoins.com

    You can contact Mitchell at mjcapc@aol.com.

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    Don Willis
    President, Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)

    Expertise: U.S. type coins and early issues.
    Specialties: Capped Bust half dollars.

    Don Willis started collecting coins in 1961 and assembled all the usual sets mostly from circulation. He did some vest pocket dealing in the 1970s and 1980s while pursuing a corporate career in Information Technology and Management. He was a Senior Vice President at a multi-billion corporation until 1995 when he founded an Internet software company. He sold that company in 2002 and became a full time dealer and the owner of Premium Numismatics. While at Premium Numismatics he specialized in pre-1840 U.S. coins. Don joined PCGS as President in October of 2008. He is a life member of the ANA, CSNA, FUN and CSNS.

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    Doug Winter
    Professional Numismatist, Researcher and Author

    Expertise: U.S. gold coins
    Specialties: Branch mint gold coins

    Doug Winter is one of the nation's leading experts in the area of United States gold coinage. He is a dealer who specializes in the branch mint issues from Carson City, Charlotte, Dahlonega and New Orleans and he has written the standard reference books on all of these subjects.

    Doug is the owner of Douglas Winter Numismatics and his website, www.raregoldcoins.com, is consistently ranked as one of the best in the coin industry. On Doug’s website you will find his latest market comments along with listings from his inventory of important rare gold coins.

    DWN is an authorized PCGS dealer who resides in Portland, Oregon. You can contact Doug via email at dwn@ont.com.

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    Gordon Wrubel
    Senior Grader, Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)

    Expertise: All U.S. coins.
    Specialties: U.S. gold coins and early copper.

    Gordon Wrubel, Senior Grader at Professional Coin Grading Service , is a well-known expert in rare U.S. coins specializing in top quality rare U.S. gold. He is in charge of our inventory acquisitions and consults with clients who are building some of the world's finest collections. In 1974, he became a full-time coin dealer and has sold over $50,000,000 in valuable coins during his career. He holds a life membership in the American Numismatic Association and in 1980 became a member of the Professional Numismatists Guild. In 1986, Gordon was one of the founders of the Professional Coin Grading Service and served as Director of Grading until 1995. He is also one of the world's top experts in rare "rock and roll" records. Contact Gordon at WrubelG@collectors.com.

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    dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    Congrats to Laura. This must be a new addition. The Million Dollar Coin Club pricing seems like it is right up her alley.
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,866 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Displaying a diversity amongst its employees (male/female, Caucasion/African American, etc) could generate a lot more consumer interest amongst collectors... >>


    As a customer of any business, I'm much more interested in excellence and value than in Diversity™ of employees. Looking at the BoE, I see plenty of the kind of diversity that really matters (i.e., numismatic specialization), not the superficial Diversity™ that is all the rage among the dim-witted illuminati of the world.
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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good to see that political correctness is alive and well image

    PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho.

    I don't care if they are male/female/in-between, or white/black/yellow/or green.

    When people worry what others look like, instead of how they act, treat others, and what they know, that is when things go downhill. >>



    Well said image
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
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    IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Good to see that political correctness is alive and well image

    PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho.

    I don't care if they are male/female/in-between, or white/black/yellow/or green.

    When people worry what others look like, instead of how they act, treat others, and what they know, that is when things go downhill. >>



    Well said image >>



    Of course, when people are excluded from boards or organizations due to them not
    matching the gender and color of the current members, that is when things REALLY go
    downhill. Our financial wizards prove this every day.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Choosing and promoting people for reasons other than their abilities has driven the company I work for to the brink of failure. Being a traditionally white male industry, signifcant efforts have been underway for 15 years to move more women and minorities into management. Because so many people have been promoted for the wrong reasons, the management team has become more and more dysfunctional and our performance has dropped to hear the bottom of the industry. Watching their clumbsy efforts to "recover" is kindof like a 3-Stooges episode...

    That said, I think Laura is very qualified. I do find it amusing that a member of the board of experts is banned from the forum but I think the status quo seems to be working for everyone. --Jerry
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pure qualifications should be the only determining factor. Many businesses have been ruined by this political correctness/diversity garbage. I applaud women of achievement - I applaud individuals of all races and creeds who attain their position through skill and excellence. Those that get there to satisfy quotas always - always - are a detriment to the organization. Cheers, RickO
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good to see that political correctness is alive and well image

    PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho.

    I don't care if they are male/female/in-between, or white/black/yellow/or green.

    When people worry what others look like, instead of how they act, treat others, and what they know, that is when things go downhill. >>



    ...absotuvely!!image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pure qualifications should be the only determining factor. Many businesses have been ruined by this political correctness/diversity garbage. I applaud women of achievement - I applaud individuals of all races and creeds who attain their position through skill and excellence. Those that get there to satisfy quotas always - always - are a detriment to the organization. Cheers, RickO >>



    What he said...
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I look good in an apron, ask any woman.

    Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody and be perfect !

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While this is a reasonable question, one can probably list several well qualified numismatists that presently are not on the Board of experts that could be... perhaps we need to look overseas for an expert... in view of the climate of political correctness? It seems coin collecting knows no boundaries...





    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you need a doctor for some type of complicated surgery, do you go to a woman just to be politically correct?

    would you choose the less qualified racially minority person over the very qualified middle age white man to be politically correct?

    What would pcgs gain from having a woman on their boards over a man?

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    they have lots of females at the coin shows

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    GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    Isn't Laura Sperber a woman she is on there
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    renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think there should be more women in numismatics. Everyone knows they can't grade, which means more deals for those of us that can. image

    Where's Charmy? Shouldn't Charmy chime in here?
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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good to see that political correctness is alive and well image

    PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho.

    I don't care if they are male/female/in-between, or white/black/yellow/or green.

    When people worry what others look like, instead of how they act, treat others, and what they know, that is when things go downhill. >>



    Couldn't have said it better.

    But here's my question.... why isn't Don Willis listed on their "Board of Experts"?
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    ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think there should be more women in numismatics. Everyone knows they can't grade, which means more deals for those of us that can. image

    Where's Charmy? Shouldn't Charmy chime in here? >>



    I was just watching until Matt had to go and challenge me!

    First, I completely agree that qualification should be the determining factor in any job - absolutely!!

    That being said, sometimes other talents make certain people more qualified and desireable in a different sense (now, I know what you're thinking, so let's just keep this clean boys!). And I can only speak to the gender issue. But, for example, some women tend to have a better eye for aesthetics and perhaps have more sensativity than males. I think one of the reasons I've been successful in this business so far, besides of course my expert knowledge, experience and superior qualifications JK!!! image, is that I may bring a different perspective and eye to coins that perhaps my male counterparts may not have. Now this is just generalizing, as I know there are men who have a great eye and are kind and nurturing to their customers, and of course there are women who are not. I'm just offering some things to ponder in response to the question, not trying to start a male coin dealer vs. female coin dealer war here.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As in any other endeavor, people should be promoted on the basis of their acumen, ability, and accomplishments. If the 10 most qualified people are women (or African American or Portuguese or whatever), they should get the honors.

    Perhaps other women have been asked to join but were smart enough to decline. image
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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But here's my question.... why isn't Don Willis listed on their "Board of Experts"?

    He is... go and re-read the list I posted.

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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>But here's my question.... why isn't Don Willis listed on their "Board of Experts"?

    He is... go and re-read the list I posted.

    Wondercoin >>



    He is never pictured on the home page of their site with the other experts. I've been watching it for weeks.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>But here's my question.... why isn't Don Willis listed on their "Board of Experts"?

    He is... go and re-read the list I posted.

    Wondercoin >>



    He is never pictured on the home page of their site with the other experts. I've been watching it for weeks. >>


    You are cyberstalking Mr. Willis? image

    image
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>But here's my question.... why isn't Don Willis listed on their "Board of Experts"?

    He is... go and re-read the list I posted.

    Wondercoin >>



    He is never pictured on the home page of their site with the other experts. I've been watching it for weeks. >>


    You are cyberstalking Mr. Willis? image

    image >>



    I was gonna ask, "is that about like watching paint dry ? "

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    BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    Don Willis has been too busy making cameo appearances on youtube to be on any board. image

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    rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>But here's my question.... why isn't Don Willis listed on their "Board of Experts"?

    He is... go and re-read the list I posted.

    Wondercoin >>



    He is never pictured on the home page of their site with the other experts. I've been watching it for weeks. >>


    You are cyberstalking Mr. Willis? image

    image >>



    Nah, that's the king of YouTube I think

    image
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    rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When you need a doctor for some type of complicated surgery, do you go to a woman just to be politically correct?

    would you choose the less qualified racially minority person over the very qualified middle age white man to be politically correct?

    What would pcgs gain from having a woman on their boards over a man? >>



    Post of the thread.

    Laura is on there because, well, she knows what she's doing. My girlfriend isn't on there because her knowledge of coins is "Look, it's a Jersey quarter!".
    Bear's "Growl of Approval" award 10/09 & 3/10 | "YOU SUCK" - PonyExpress8|"F the doctors!" - homerunhall | I hate my car
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    ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    If they are qualified, add them. Who cares where they were born, what religion they practice, of if they have an innie or an outtie.......experts are experts, in any given field, in any given trade.
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    pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    The Board should consist of the best qualified that are willing to take the job or the best qualified that apply for the job. Leave the politically correct for the government openings.image
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    you got your wish,


    now the PICS are playing musical chairs
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good to see that political correctness is alive and well image

    PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho.

    I don't care if they are male/female/in-between, or white/black/yellow/or green.

    When people worry what others look like, instead of how they act, treat others, and what they know, that is when things go downhill. >>



    ...YOU SAID IT!!!!!!! image
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...didn't realize this was an old thread. image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
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    So just what are the responsibilities of the Board of Experts? What do they actually do?

    I once asked one of the members. He told me that the Board is just "for show" to add credibility. The experts occasionally are asked a technical question, but that's really all they do. It doesn't look like they are performing brain surgery. Do they even get paid? It's silly to say that PCGS needs the most qualified people on this board of experts if they don't do anything.

    So, if this "board of experts" is simply an expression of stature that is used for marketing, then, of course there should be more women involved. After all, fifty percent of the people in this country are women. They represent a huge potential market for PCGS and for the coin collecting hobby.
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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>PCGS should have whoever is most qualified AND willing to be on their board of experts, imho. >>



    image >>





    I also agree with that. It should not matter if male or female. May the best person win. Just because female, does not automatically mean you have what it takes to be on The Board.


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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two ways to do anything: The correct way and the politically correct way.

    Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes the best man for a job is a woman.






    .........Don't get mad at me---I saw this on a bumpersticker.image



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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sometimes the best man for a job is a woman.






    .........Don't get mad at me---I saw this on a bumpersticker.image >>



    And once in awhile even those are right.image
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    jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭
    It's smart business sense to have diversity on a board. A bunch of white guys in their 50s and 60s have a similar group-think and don't have a
    clue (or even care) on how to market rare coins to women, blacks, and young people.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,575 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's smart business sense to have diversity on a board. A bunch of white guys in their 50s and 60s have a similar group-think and don't have a
    clue (or even care) on how to market rare coins to women, blacks, and young people. >>



    No offense Frank, do you include yourself in that "group?"
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's smart business sense to have diversity on a board. A bunch of white guys in their 50s and 60s have a similar group-think and don't have a
    clue (or even care) on how to market rare coins to women, blacks, and young people. >>



    No offense Frank, do you include yourself in that "group?" >>



    Yep. But the owner of the B&M store I managed was a woman, and she grew up as an Avon-lady, and could sell
    $5,000 to $50,000 coins to other women that I would never have believed possible.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as she would need to answer to one of the big boys........I don't have a problem with it.


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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pcgs should by all means have several woman on it. it would run a bit more smoooothly image jmho
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    Coin doctors need representation on the board.

    I bet there are not any eskimos on it either. image

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