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I continue to be amused by all the threads (and carping and sniveling) about the danger of buying
raw coins on eBay. It seems to me that to admit to being wary of buying non-slabbed coins is an
admission that one cannot grade coins. Sure, bad pix and ignorant sellers are as common as over-dipped Morgans.
But there are literally millions of auctions out there just waiting to be dug out.

I hope the link works. This is a wildly toned 1898-O Barber quarter that NGC slabbed as AU58. It was listed as
"1898 US Quarter" at a non-US eBay site. The original auction pictures clearly showed the mintmark and higher grade.
Why did everyone else quit bidding at $71? I can only guess the anti-raw coin sentiment is closing eyes. Enjoy.null
Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes

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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Your link asks me to sign in....

    Do you have pics of the coin in the holder?
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  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>I continue to be amused by all the threads (and carping and sniveling) about the danger of buying
    raw coins on eBay. It seems to me that to admit to being wary of buying non-slabbed coins is an
    admission that one cannot grade coins. Sure, bad pix and ignorant sellers are as common as over-dipped Morgans.
    But there are literally millions of auctions out there just waiting to be dug out.

    I hope the link works. This is a wildly toned 1898-O Barber quarter that NGC slabbed as AU58. It was listed as
    "1898 US Quarter" at a non-US eBay site. The original auction pictures clearly showed the mintmark and higher grade.
    Why did everyone else quit bidding at $71? I can only guess the anti-raw coin sentiment is closing eyes. Enjoy.null >>



    This listing (110528999516) has been removed, or this item is not available.
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    "This listing (110528999516) has been removed, or this item is not available.

    - Please check that you've entered the correct item number
    - Listings that have ended 90 or more days ago will not be available for viewing."

  • boyhowdyboyhowdy Posts: 657
    Sorry about the link. It goes to a lot scheduled to start tomorrow night. I forgot eBay wouldn't let me post a page from MyeBay.
    Can anyone send instructions for posting a pic larger than 50K?
    Steve
    Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes
  • boyhowdyboyhowdy Posts: 657
    Screw it.
    See eBay #110528999516 starting Friday night.
    Big (computers hate me) Steve.
    Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Screw it.
    See eBay #110528999516 starting Friday night.
    Big (computers hate me) Steve. >>



    So you're selling the coin now? You bought it raw and had it graded by NGC and now are selling it on eBay correct?
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    Am I missing something, or are you trying to post a link to a coin that you are putting up for sale?

    If so, this should be on the BST.

  • boyhowdyboyhowdy Posts: 657
    My mistake guys. I am computer illiterate and just wanted to use a picture with an URL.
    I couldn't figure out how to post pix off my hard drive. No intent to hustle.

    I have pix to post but a warning saying "over 50K" pops up and the scan won't load.

    Steve
    Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Am I missing something, or are you trying to post a link to a coin that you are putting up for sale?

    If so, this should be on the BST. >>



    I'm not a stickler for issues like this, but I agree...it does belong on the BST.....someone recently called it 'soft spamming', but this seems to be more than 'soft spamming'.
    I'll come up with something.
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    this thread just got a whole lot more confusing. moving on...
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    image
  • Where's the item?
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think Steve's intent was pumping his item, just sharing a real life example that Ebay can still provide some diamonds in the rough if you look hard and know your stuff. And I know that Steve knows Barbers!
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  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>I don't think Steve's intent was pumping his item, just sharing a real life example that Ebay can still provide some diamonds in the rough if you look hard and know your stuff. And I know that Steve knows Barbers! >>




    Then why let on that the coin is currently for sale? He could have simply said he got a great deal, and the coin was eventually slabbed by NGC.
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think Steve's intent was pumping his item, just sharing a real life example that Ebay can still provide some diamonds in the rough if you look hard and know your stuff. And I know that Steve knows Barbers! >>



    That's what it would have been if he left it at the story of the rip. By putting in a link for an item HE is selling makes it spam. Had he put the auction listing of the item he won, it would be a different story, and acceptable. As it stands, it's spam, especially due to the second posting saying:

    See eBay #110528999516 starting Friday night.

    That is spam, no two ways about it. It couldn't be any more difficult to link the auction he won than linking the item he's selling.
    I'll come up with something.
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I continue to be amused by all the threads (and carping and sniveling) about the danger of buying
    raw coins on eBay. It seems to me that to admit to being wary of buying non-slabbed coins is an
    admission that one cannot grade coins.

    I rather take offense to this statement...being able to grade allows me to not get suckered on the world's largest sucker machine ever put into existence.
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>



    Sung to the melody of the Cheap Trick song:

    "The Spam Police is coming for you, the Spam Police, is coming for you" image
  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>image >>



    Sung to the melody of the Cheap Trick song:

    "The Spam Police is coming for you, the Spam Police, is coming for you" image >>


    image
    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    so why can't this Steve feller answer the simple questions he's been asked in this thread ?
  • boyhowdyboyhowdy Posts: 657
    Sorry the scan is so small. The original auction picture was twice this size. My point is why did everyone quit bidding so early?

    Steve
    Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    For the record, I don't believe the OP was trying to spam the Coin Forum. He might have ended up doing it a bit, but I really don't think it was intentional...he was just showing off a good score. I say good for him and wish him luck when he sells it.
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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For the record, I don't believe the OP was trying to spam the Coin Forum. He might have ended up doing it a bit, but I really don't think it was intentional...he was just showing off a good score. I say good for him and wish him luck when he sells it. >>



    I agree 100% - working on instruction for those that don't know how to post a pic.
    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>For the record, I don't believe the OP was trying to spam the Coin Forum. He might have ended up doing it a bit, but I really don't think it was intentional...he was just showing off a good score. I say good for him and wish him luck when he sells it. >>



    I agree 100% - working on instruction for those that don't know how to post a pic. >>



    There is already a very detailed post on the forums for posting pictures. If I have time later, I will do a search for it. You may have time to do it and can search for your own.
    Or, why not just sign up for a fre photobucket account?
  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • RedglobeRedglobe Posts: 714 ✭✭✭
    Hey Steve,

    From a first glance at it,the coin looks Mint State...but looking more closely a high AU coin.

    What did it grade if you sent it off to get graded.

    If it graded...very nice pick up...did you get it for VF-XF money?

    Rob
    Rob
  • RedglobeRedglobe Posts: 714 ✭✭✭
    Oh, I wanted to add,that is a very tough date for that series in higher circulated grades.

    Rob
    Rob
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    nice coin and a nice pick-up


    I agree with you, there are some very good deals out there



    it is just the wading through all the cr ap that makes some get by as bargains for astute buyers
  • boyhowdyboyhowdy Posts: 657
    I followed the posting instructions (thanks!) and got this far.

    [IMG]http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff160/sjtucla/1898-OQuarcoin.jpg

    On the test site this does not translate into a picture. I guess computers
    really can be vindictive.

    Steve
    Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes
  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I followed the posting instructions (thanks!) and got this far.

    image

    On the test site this does not translate into a picture. I guess computers
    really can be vindictive.

    Steve >>



    You were missing a [/IMG].

    Computers can be vindictive, but so can lamps if you fail to plug them in prior to trying to turn them on.
    For the record you bracket your link with IMG in [] brackets, your link and you close it with [/] IMG brackets. I'd type it out in the brackets but then all you would get was a broker image link like this image
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    Isnt natural toning supposed to "cling tightly to the devices"? Why are there so many halos on the reverse?
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    collectors, as with most everyone, suffer from what i call "Lottery Syndrome" which in short means that the tendency is to ALWAYS post when we win but to NEVER post when we lose. to suggest that the odds of winning at the game of buying raw coins on eBay by grading from online pictures is a very poor message to send out, especially to newcomers. certainly there will be good scores, but on average i think that most would agree you'll come out on the losing side more often than not. i would agree with some others in the thread that it's a bit confusing. without knowing the price you paid and going just from the $71 figure you gave + shipping + grading fees i come up with a final number of around $125 for an 1898-O Barber Quarter graded AU58 by NGC that looks a little dark.

    i'd imagine most of the (U.S.)bidders stopped at $71 when they weighed the risk vs. what the reward might be.......................overseas listing, dark coin, possible environmental damage, grade low. sometimes rolling the dice brings a winner, most probably decided this was a loser. please post whenever you take a risk like this and the result is a net loss, that would be more educational and beneficial in the long run.

    congratulations.
  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    I agree keets, but heck I have bought raw coin from dealers that turned out to be not so great either. It isn't just ebay, it is knowing what your buying and being able to spot original vs dreck. Obviously the buyer thought it had good surfaces and won.

    Congrats on the coin, you certainly stand to get more then paid.
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The real problem with buying coins from ebay posts is that the use of this venue amounts to sight-unseen buying.
    Occasionally a buyer gets a good coin on the cheap, but most buyers just get creamed.
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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>collectors, as with most everyone, suffer from what i call "Lottery Syndrome" which in short means that the tendency is to ALWAYS post when we win but to NEVER post when we lose. >>

    Hey. I posted losers twice in the past week or two. I remember at least one loser posted recently by seanq. I'm sure there have been others...
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isnt natural toning supposed to "cling tightly to the devices"? Why are there so many halos on the reverse?

    I see the halos that a previous poster mentioned and although there are times when natural toning doesn't hit the stars and envelope them in this case it appears odd, again I don't understand this coin's surfaces.


    those "halos" around the lettering and stars are typical of what happens with Air Transfer toning and probably resulted from this coin being stored in an envelope or some other type of sealed holder which trapped air inside with the coin but didn't necessarily come in contact with the coin. do a search and you should be able to come up with more educated explanations and some good picture examples, particularly on Morgan Dollars.

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