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Guess the grade.... 1916 SLQ.... GRADE REVEALED... PCGS AU55

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-50,Very nice coin.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just a guess because I can read the "Red Book" VF25.

    Guess I didn't read that well this time.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    EF40 but I would give it a sticker
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a very weak strike , or it's the most evenly worn coin I ever seen! I'll say ms-60?
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does it have any luster?
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    40
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    45...
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm torn between VF35 and XF40
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow guesses all over the board...........55? MJ
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF-20, and I don't care for the color. It looks like it has been cleaned with baking soda.

    But most circuated Standing Liberty Quarters are over graded IMO, so the "official" grade is probably higher. image
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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    My guesstimate is 25. I'm not seeing what some others are seeing.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,853 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My guesstimate is 25. I'm not seeing what some others are seeing. >>



    I agree. The 1916 was not a poorly struck issue like the later coins. There is no way that this coin could be an AU.
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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    From "Making the Grade":
    (Definitions jump from 12 to 30.)

    VF-30:
    Obverse: Both subtypes wear spots show in Liberty's breast, shield and leg, gown line crossing leg is partially visible. Circle around inner shield complete. On Type 1, wear also evident on Liberty's head. Right leg is rounded but worn from above knee almost to foot.
    Reverse: On both types, eagle's feather ends and folds are visible in right wing.

    High points on the obverse are the center of the shield and the right knee. For the reverse it's the eagle's breast and right-center of the right wing.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Confusing coin. Apparent VF wear and XF luster. Color me confused.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cannot see AU in this coin at all, in fact I would think this coins grade would be limited to VF30 and perhaps lower. Still a beautiful coin. Congrats.
    Jim

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF
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  • SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭
    A low end AU-50.
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  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    VF25
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Link to coin at Stacks.

    PCGS graded it AU55. I think it is grossly overgraded.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Link to coin at Stacks.

    PCGS graded it AU55. I think it is grossly overgraded.

    -Paul >>



    And a sticker....woah............MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The grade, sticker, and images are completely useless for judging or even bidding on that example unless it's viewed in hand.

    Buying from Stack's via the web based on a photo is a real crap shot as their imaging department failed Picture Page with Bill Cosby.

    Their cartoon-ish crayola renderings do not even marginally reflect what a coin actually looks like in hand.

    Here's just an example of a HT-65 hard times token with the Stack's images and my own to prove my point as they are like day and night.

    Bowers and Merena was just as bad, but recently made huge improvements in their images... Hopefully Stack's soon will too image

    Stack's -

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    Mine -

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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    Broadstruck wins 1 million internets points for a Picture Pages reference. They can be redeemed at the counter for a Best of Heathcliff VHS and Best of Raffi cassette tape.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,883 ✭✭✭✭✭
    exceptional coin in terms of having the look-

    As for the grade- I really need to see that one in hand before making any opinion.

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>EF40 but I would give it a sticker >>



    I would have to agree with you.

    At best its an XF 40 - and, its a solid 40.

    I've owned several - 53FH, 58FH and 63FH.

    Still a really nice coin.
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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭
    Pass on it! You will no doubt find a better one, maybe even in a lower holder for less money.
    Derek

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  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    I'm not very adept at grading from online images, but I was going to say AU-50.
    The problem with 16 SLQs is in the original hub design and rushed production. Strike has very little to do with the lack of clarity evident. There are some better struck 1916 SLQs out there, but they never come close to the sharpness of a typical 17 Type 1. I suspect that some of you might be comparing it to other dates in the series; apples and oranges for sure.
    Based on the image, it's hard to examine the surface quality, but overall, it's an attractive example of this date. I'm not the least bit surprised that it graded AU-55.


  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Even seeing the "grade," I would say 35-40.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Broadstruck wins 1 million internets points for a Picture Pages reference. They can be redeemed at the counter for a Best of Heathcliff VHS and Best of Raffi cassette tape. >>



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  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    That image is probably not doing justice to the actual coin.
    The shield and drapery detail is "mushy" as usual, but I'm sure it looks a bit sharper in hand. The date looks very sharp; one of the first areas to receive wear, even in VF-XF grades.
    Luster? Can't tell from that image, but I'm sure it exists to some degree.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well it received a bid of $5K since this thread was posted and I feel it's worth that.

    Browsing the entire Stack's Nashville auction it look's like another "Island of Misfit Toys" sale! imageimage
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