Most likely the truth and he's giving you the courtesy of an advanced notice of his situation. If that's the case, well, it sucks to be him. Of course, one must also wonder if it's a scam wherein the bidder wins a lot, sends payment, gets confirmation of shipping, then says he'll be returning the coin because of sudden unemployment, hoping to get a sympathy refund right away, then keeps the coin, leaving the seller with no recourse.
It REALLY sucks for them if true about losing his/her job. It stinks for you you if true or not but it is minor road bump that you will soon forget about.
Unfortunately it's part of the peril and cost of during business these days. (this scenario probably happens to online dealers as well in these trying times). Hope it all works out for you in the end. MJ
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I've had that happen once or twice before I just assumed it was the truth and cut them a break with the economy the way it is it's more than likely the truth.
These are trying economic times. I would assume he is telling the truth and would cut him some slack.
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
I would tell him to refuse acceptance of the package and have it sent back without opening. Wait till you get the package back before refunding. If he is legit he should have no problem with this.
<< <i>These are trying economic times. I would assume he is telling the truth and would cut him some slack. >>
Ditto. I find it more than rude to make fun of the situation (not talking about the OP). I like Batman's answer as well....having the buyer refuse the package when delivery is attempted.
Yes. If I receive the coin back, the "buyer" will get a no questions asked refund. >>
Thats the best way to go imo, good for you. Just recently we had a lady who had a sick kid, broke her leg skiing, and moved before paying on a $20 item (six weeks). Ya just never know.
If he just lost his job he's probably having a bit of a pity party. By the time he receives it he may have decided it isn't as bad as he thought and decide he can still afford it. --Jerry
Is there any way to check if this buyer is still bidding on coins?
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<< <i>I would tell him to refuse acceptance of the package and have it sent back without opening. Wait till you get the package back before refunding. If he is legit he should have no problem with this. >>
As a buyer, that is the wrong thing to do. Paypal requires proof that you actually returned the item, and I don't think refusing a package will work. You need delivery or signature confirmation.
<< <i>Most likely the truth and he's giving you the courtesy of an advanced notice of his situation. If that's the case, well, it sucks to be him. Of course, one must also wonder if it's a scam wherein the bidder wins a lot, sends payment, gets confirmation of shipping, then says he'll be returning the coin because of sudden unemployment, hoping to get a sympathy refund right away, then keeps the coin, leaving the seller with no recourse. >>
+1
I have had similar situations on Ebay this year but since I offer a return policy it really doesn't matter the reason and I kinda appreciate the honesty vs just saying I don't like the coin. In the end I am usually able to send a second chance offer and all works out.
The true significance of the comments in this thread, IMO, is the cynicism shown in so many posts. Not sure if this is the result of bad experiences or simply major distrust due to reading other cases. Cheers, RickO
<< <i>Reply that you lost your job too, thats why you were selling the coin >>
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<< <i>I've had that happen once or twice before I just assumed it was the truth and cut them a break with the economy the way it is it's more than likely the truth. >>
When you sell on eBay, there is no "cutting" the buyer slack since the "buyer" is the one holding the feedback "gun".
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It's sad that there are so many cheats out there that we are forced to react to this with a measure of suspicion.
Am I correct that you get to keep your shipping costs in the event of return? If so, I really don't see cause for complaint; if not, I'd request reimbursement of those costs from the buyer. Losing a job does not mean you are absolved of responsibility for your transactions.
I've never had a job, so I don't know what it is like to lose one, but doesn't the government have monetary compensation or supplement programs (unemployment) for such occurrences? I think that everyone involved will come out okay despite the gloomy outlook of the present.
Most likely a true story but perhaps because Ebay is so full of lies I would use advanced search feature and see what other items he had recently bid on...........he may have just found same item cheaper and is now returning yours.
It also lets you see if he continues buying despite his hardship...........
In the end it doesn't matter.......on Ebay everything is reversed.
Wow, some can be pretty cold here, to some people losing there job would be pretty scarey and traumatic and the last thing you might want to do is pay for a coin. I agree as long as the coin is returned whats the big deal. I know that with all the crooks and lies going on it can be easy to be doubtful but I sure understand returning a coin if you were caught off guard and lost your job. AL
<< <i>It's sad that there are so many cheats out there that we are forced to react to this with a measure of suspicion.
Am I correct that you get to keep your shipping costs in the event of return? If so, I really don't see cause for complaint; if not, I'd request reimbursement of those costs from the buyer. Losing a job does not mean you are absolved of responsibility for your transactions. >>
Yeah...no kidding, huh? That $5-$10 for shipping is nothing to someone who has lost a job! No need to show compassion! Go for every penny owed!
Sheeesh. Things happen and, in the scheme of things, if I had an income and was selling on ebay and this happened, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Sure, maybe I lost a few bucks, but as a human, I would feel pretty good about myself for not trying to kick someone while they are down....all over a few bucks.
<< <i>It's sad that there are so many cheats out there that we are forced to react to this with a measure of suspicion.
Am I correct that you get to keep your shipping costs in the event of return? If so, I really don't see cause for complaint; if not, I'd request reimbursement of those costs from the buyer. Losing a job does not mean you are absolved of responsibility for your transactions. >>
Yeah...no kidding, huh? That $5-$10 for shipping is nothing to someone who has lost a job! No need to show compassion! Go for every penny owed!
Sheeesh. Things happen and, in the scheme of things, if I had an income and was selling on ebay and this happened, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Sure, maybe I lost a few bucks, but as a human, I would feel pretty good about myself for not trying to kick someone while they are down....all over a few bucks. >>
I only started this thread because I thought it was an interesting sign of the times. I'm not giving the buyer a hard time at all.
The buyer may also have sent you this pre-emptive note in hopes that it would be more believable that to send it after seeing the coin. If he lost his job, waited for the coin, looked at it, and then decided he just couldn't afford it, it would seem to you more like he just didn't like the coin. Now "just didn't like the coin" is an OK reason for a return with your policy but he may want you to know that is not it.
<< <i>When your coin is returned, refund the money, including postage if you can. Almost anyone who has been involuntarily unemployed will understand. >>
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What a bummer. I hope it works out.
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Unfortunately it's part of the peril and cost of during business these days. (this scenario probably happens to online dealers as well in these trying times). Hope it all works out for you in the end. MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>Reply that you lost your job too, thats why you were selling the coin
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<< <i>Did you offer a return? >>
Yes. If I receive the coin back, the "buyer" will get a no questions asked refund.
<< <i>These are trying economic times. I would assume he is telling the truth and would cut him some slack. >>
Ditto. I find it more than rude to make fun of the situation (not talking about the OP).
I like Batman's answer as well....having the buyer refuse the package when delivery is attempted.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>Was it a bullion coin? >>
It's a proof Franklin half.
Do what you think is best. The show could be on the other foot.
Good luck.
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<< <i>Did you offer a return? >>
Yes. If I receive the coin back, the "buyer" will get a no questions asked refund. >>
Thats the best way to go imo, good for you. Just recently we had a lady who had a sick kid, broke her leg skiing, and moved before paying on a $20 item (six weeks). Ya just never know.
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<< <i>I would tell him to refuse acceptance of the package and have it sent back without opening. Wait till you get the package back before refunding. If he is legit he should have no problem with this. >>
As a buyer, that is the wrong thing to do. Paypal requires proof that you actually returned the item, and I don't think refusing a package will work. You need delivery or signature confirmation.
<< <i>Most likely the truth and he's giving you the courtesy of an advanced notice of his situation. If that's the case, well, it sucks to be him. Of course, one must also wonder if it's a scam wherein the bidder wins a lot, sends payment, gets confirmation of shipping, then says he'll be returning the coin because of sudden unemployment, hoping to get a sympathy refund right away, then keeps the coin, leaving the seller with no recourse. >>
+1
I have had similar situations on Ebay this year but since I offer a return policy it really doesn't matter the reason and I kinda appreciate the honesty vs just saying I don't like the coin. In the end I am usually able to send a second chance offer and all works out.
<< <i>Reply that you lost your job too, thats why you were selling the coin
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<< <i>I've had that happen once or twice before I just assumed it was the truth and cut them a break with the economy the way it is it's more than likely the truth. >>
When you sell on eBay, there is no "cutting" the buyer slack since the "buyer" is the one holding the feedback "gun".
The name is LEE!
Am I correct that you get to keep your shipping costs in the event of return? If so, I really don't see cause for complaint; if not, I'd request reimbursement of those costs from the buyer. Losing a job does not mean you are absolved of responsibility for your transactions.
<< <i>Poop happens >>
Yes, it would have been enoucraging to read a thread title that said :
" Got a job, so, I'll be returning to buy more of the type of coin you just shipped me".
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
I lost my job
and your coin is lost in the mail.
It also lets you see if he continues buying despite his hardship...........
In the end it doesn't matter.......on Ebay everything is reversed.
It is seller beware.
AL
<< <i>It's sad that there are so many cheats out there that we are forced to react to this with a measure of suspicion.
Am I correct that you get to keep your shipping costs in the event of return? If so, I really don't see cause for complaint; if not, I'd request reimbursement of those costs from the buyer. Losing a job does not mean you are absolved of responsibility for your transactions. >>
Yeah...no kidding, huh? That $5-$10 for shipping is nothing to someone who has lost a job! No need to show compassion! Go for every penny owed!
Sheeesh. Things happen and, in the scheme of things, if I had an income and was selling on ebay and this happened, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Sure, maybe I lost a few bucks, but as a human, I would feel pretty good about myself for not trying to kick someone while they are down....all over a few bucks.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>
<< <i>It's sad that there are so many cheats out there that we are forced to react to this with a measure of suspicion.
Am I correct that you get to keep your shipping costs in the event of return? If so, I really don't see cause for complaint; if not, I'd request reimbursement of those costs from the buyer. Losing a job does not mean you are absolved of responsibility for your transactions. >>
Yeah...no kidding, huh? That $5-$10 for shipping is nothing to someone who has lost a job! No need to show compassion! Go for every penny owed!
Sheeesh. Things happen and, in the scheme of things, if I had an income and was selling on ebay and this happened, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Sure, maybe I lost a few bucks, but as a human, I would feel pretty good about myself for not trying to kick someone while they are down....all over a few bucks. >>
I only started this thread because I thought it was an interesting sign of the times. I'm not giving the buyer a hard time at all.
"Patience, Prudence, Civility and Commonality seem to have been overtaken by Gratification, Greed, Ideology and Ego."
<< <i>That's what an eBay buyer messaged me tonight. The "buyer" hasn't even received the coin yet. >>
He's probably just in a panic. Once he sees the beaut. of a coin he may reconsider.
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<< <i>When your coin is returned, refund the money, including postage if you can. Almost anyone who has been involuntarily unemployed will understand. >>