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Please Help with this 1894-O Barber Dime

rkprkp Posts: 448 ✭✭✭
Hi,

I recently purchased this raw, better date 1894-O Barber dime for my album and would like to hear opinions from people who are much more knowledgeable than I am. Specifically I was wondering about:

1. The technical grade - I think it is at least an F-12 maybe an F-15 as all the letters of "LIBERTY" are showing and parts of the upper and lower band; both obverse and reverse surfaces are clean, relatively mark free; and the right side kernals on the reverse are nice for a coin in this lower grade; but the leaf below the "D" is weak.

2. Originality - I think it is an original coin as the color inside the letters are the same as the fields and there are no hairlines

3. Strike - I read somewhere that you can tell if a coin was struck from weak dies if the low relief areas are mushy. I think this is the case for this coin especially on the reverse since the edges of "N", "E", "I", and "M" of "ONE DIME" are merging with the fields and not well defined.

I would greatly appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!

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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a nice original coin to me. I like it as a Fine.
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice looking coin - Fine for sure, maybe F15.
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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hate to even say or think this, but the O looks off

    too big, too misshappen, I can't tell

    here's the reverse of mine for comparison, which is graded by PCGS ... not a great picture

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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    I like it as an F15, not strong enough to be a VF in my experience, although I would not be shocked if it got into a VF20 holder.

    It's tough for me to say without seeing it in hand, but it MIGHT have had a light dip at one point. Still a very nice looking coin.

    I don't have any books handy and don't know the diagnostics of a 94-O offhand (Which is rather stupid of me as I collect VF Barber Dimes.... doh!) so I can't comment on the authenticity of the piece.
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  • O looks fine to me. It even matches (in a low-grade way) the slight repunching you see to the NW on the mintmark. What worries me is the lettering in LIBERTY. From the image it appears that some of the letters are reengraved, or enhanced. The E looks way to high... One grades these in circ based on the amount of letters in LIBERTY. If you can see all the letters as complete, it's usually a VF. But, like a said, the letters don't look natural from the image.
    John Feigenbaum
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The E looks way to high

    John - I see what you see, but I think the top part of that "E" is either dirt or toning or a shadow. In fact, if you look closer at where the bottom of the "E" should be, there does appear to be something there.
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    I think the coin looks "F-15" and I don't see anything
    that would raise Red Flags with me...speaking of which...

    here's a red tinted pic of my 1894-O Reverse...PCGS 58, at left: & at right, a newly graded AU 55:

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    Sorry the images are so small...

    BTW...the AU 58 is at the photographers for a better image.

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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    I think the coin is original and quite market acceptable. As for strike its at least an average strike for an O mint and as already said fine 15 seems about right. Its a real nice coin and not so easy to find in a mid grade that nice.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree, F-15 and problem-free.
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    All of my Fine Barber coins should look so nice! It looks perfectly original from the
    images. I would grade it Fine-15 and price it closer to VF-20 money, and be very
    happy to have it in my set.
  • BarbercoinBarbercoin Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭
    I'd say Fine-15 is a "lock", having a softer strike, it wouldn't surprise me if it went VF. But, you never know for sure.

    The 94-o date is always a good buy, so you did good. The coin looks original to me too.

    I don't have much experience in the mint mark variations, so I can't help you there.

    Nice one.

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  • PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    There are mint mark variations as more then one reverse die was used. I like is as a nose original F15. Nice pick up.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice Barber dime. F15 for sure maybe VF20.
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the coin as well as a F-12 to F-15, very nice ... my comment about the MM was a concern based on size and shape, however the more I thought about it, it wouldn't make a lot of sense because a 94 is a really tough coin too ... and the 94-S ... hahaha

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  • A 15 all day long. Upper band detail makes the jump from 12 to 15.
    Typical New Orleans softer strike. Original. Nice catch!

    Steve
    Collecting XF+ toned Barber dimes


  • << <i> The E looks way to high

    John - I see what you see, but I think the top part of that "E" is either dirt or toning or a shadow. In fact, if you look closer at where the bottom of the "E" should be, there does appear to be something there. >>


    Looks like dirt to me too. On my monitor, that part of the "E" is about 3 pixels wide, so I don't really see how anyone could
    make a definitive statement about that area of the coin. If you enlarge the photos, it's still hard to tell. Anyway, that's a
    nice coin. F-15 easy, maybe a 20. The reverse may have been cleaned long ago.
  • I say an easy 15
  • rkprkp Posts: 448 ✭✭✭
    Thank you all very much for the feedback, I appreciate it! Regarding the "E" in LIBERTY, it just happens to be a bad picture with a shadowing effect. In hand under a 30x glass the E is properly located. Regarding the "O" there was some loose crud on the top left corner which makes it look odd. I removed the crud and now it looks fine.

    Thanks!
  • solid 15!!
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    F15... & original.

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