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Ladies, Gentleman, and all Gold lovers, lend me your opinion of a grade!

AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
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So I bought this on ebay raw! Risky, I know.

It looks fine to me, but maybe I am missing something.

What are your thoughts on the grade? I bought it for melt, and had a Ebay bucks certificate so got about $125 off. My net after everything was around $200.
Lighting is off, but the coin looks fine in hand.

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AJ
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    <I bought it for melt>

    Don't you dare melt that coin!!! image

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I am willing to lend you my ears.
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    55. I will reserve my Plus and sticker until you post a picture with better lighting.
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was it in a bezel? The edges look too sharp for the AU-58 grade it is.

    Can I have my opinion back when you are done with it?
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  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭
    Is something going on with the 'knob' on the 6??? Simple die chip, a little damage, or something more exciting?
    I'll come up with something.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Well, it certainly ain't dirty. --Jerry
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it's just the imaging, but the surfaces look oddly textured, as if the coin had been buried or suffered salt water damage.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,907 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe it's just the imaging, but the surfaces look oddly textured, as if the coin had been buried or suffered salt water damage. >>



    My first thought. Looks like the flat surfaces of a matte proof. Where's the luster? Looks like it was lightly sand blasted.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Maybe it's just the imaging, but the surfaces look oddly textured, as if the coin had been buried or suffered salt water damage. >>



    My first thought. Looks like the flat surfaces of a matte proof. Where's the luster? Looks like it was lightly sand blasted. >>



    Surfaces do not look right to me either. I don't think it would grade based on the images.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Well I expected it to have problems as I bought it simply for its gold value. Will reshoot some close ups.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I grade it...Eh.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    It has a strange matte look to it. Grainy almost.
    Could it just be the photo?

    I am down with gold by the pound.

    Nothing wrong with a gold throng.

    Good you would pounce on every last ounce.

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    The images look "pickled".image

    Milan? Beirut?
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Did you weigh and measure it already?
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you weigh and measure it already? >>



    Not yet, its in a flip, and if something seems off, I would rather leave it in the flip.

    But what should it weigh?
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Did you weigh and measure it already? >>



    Not yet, its in a flip, and if something seems off, I would rather leave it in the flip.

    But what should it weigh? >>

    Why not look it up?
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    the reverse is a somewhat odd in the shield , the coin has nice details AU or so.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I really hate to say this but, could it be counterfeit?
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Mark.

    She weighed 8.3 grams. Here are more pics under ott lights. The hairlines are not as pronounced in hand, but she probably was cleaned at one point.

    imageimage

    AJ
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I really hate to say this but, could it be counterfeit? >>



    That is a fear, which is why I posted it here. The seller has over 350 positive feedback and has been on ebay since 2007.

    If it does happen, I hope paypal will protect me.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • enzetenzet Posts: 48
    AnkurJ,

    Are you planning to have it graded? It's probably the best way to detrmine its authenticity. But you may have to move quickly before your Paypal protection expires. I'm not sure how long it goes for but us here in Australia, we only have 45 days from purchase date to dispute a transaction.

    Goodluck!

    Regards,

    Nestor
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info! New pics are posted!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    The second set of images is so drastically different from the first set, I don't know what to make of it. It does show a harshly cleaned coin, however. Personally, even if I could buy it for melt, I wouldn't be excited about it.

    It would be a waste of money to submit it to a grading company, as a knowledgeable collector or dealer at a show could verify its authenticity.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yep,........but I wouldnt loose sleep over it for $200
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  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    As a "bought for melt" coin, I like it a lot. There are a lot of bought raw on Ebay stories that end a lot worse. I am not a gold guy, but it seems quite genuine to me.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    The surface looks funny to me. I think melt was about the right price, and I don't think it will holder.

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