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1993 Thomas Jefferson Silver Dollars

Does anyone own these? How popular are they? I ask as I never see one shown here or talked about. One of our greatest presidents and a Founding Father. There's a 3 piece set mentioned in the red book consisting of a dollar, nickel and $2 note. Anyone have one to show? How about the silver dollars?

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭✭
    the nickel in that set was a 1994 Specimen (aka matte proof) version i believe

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  • BeeManBeeMan Posts: 364 ✭✭✭
    Here you go.

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    90% silver?
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,217 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone own these? How popular are they? I ask as I never see one shown here or talked about. One of our greatest presidents and a Founding Father. There's a 3 piece set mentioned in the red book consisting of a dollar, nickel and $2 note. Anyone have one to show? How about the silver dollars? >>



    the set of which you speak is the "Jefferson Coin & Chronicles" set.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't own one but I think that we all owe a debt of gratitude to the man.

    After all, besides building our Democracy he invented the coat hanger.

    Love the guy!

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like this issue and find it quite attractive. It was issued in such large numbers that it carries no premium over other modern silver issues. The three piece set has a specimen strike Jefferson nickel in it and quite often the reverse of the nickel turns a golden-orange-plum color over time from the packaging.
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  • pics of the nickel?
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I like them in 'The Thomas Jefferson Coinage and Currency set' - an interesting package from the US Mint


    the nickels are (matte, SMS, SP) take your pic and usually in the 69 range
    and the hard cover will probably keep them that way in original packaging
    mintage of 167,703

    the glues or something has made the reverses of the nickels tone yellow/gold
    and I have been watching the progression

    I now have some peripheral toning on the neighboring dollar
    the dollars have occasional spots (probably from copper)

    the sets have been selling in the $45-70 range on eBay
    with around 10% have a star note - getting a premium for these
    the reverse of the dollar is cool, the obverse looks like one of them classic commems image
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  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    the set is actually The Thomas Jefferson Coinage and Currency set.

    I have one on my desk if a get a chance I will take a couple of photos.

    The sets can be bought for very cheap with little collector interest, last I checked anyway.

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I have the MS70 for sale on ebay. I probably have some 69's around here somewhere is someone is looking for one. --Jerry
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Who would you call if you wanted to find say 100 of them, or a few hundred of them and is that a silly high amount of order that nobody can fill ? I did a quick look on ebay and they are all over bid. THAT I'm finding hard to understand.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    what is bid on these?
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    $16 bucks for the proofs. $15.50 for the BU's
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who would you call if you wanted to find say 100 of them...?

    A psychiatrist?
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Who would you call if you wanted to find say 100 of them...?

    A psychiatrist? >>




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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont think you will ever find the set under $50 to $65 per set. Now just the dollar you may get some maybe I like the set mysalf.


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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Cute! I'd like to get some of those!
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coins a beauty...image

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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    I wouldn't mind have the whole set. image

    I do own this piece:


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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jefferson commems make great pocket pieces. image
    I subjcted this dollar to the rigors of circulation, well artificially in my pocket, with other silver coinage. image
    I now have pulled it from circulating in my pocket, it's in VF/XF condition.
    The pic of the commem was taken when the piece was in AU condition.
    I like the look with a little wear. image

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Time was one could cherry pick the coins and currency set from some coin shops and sell it at a profit because some collectors were willing to pay a premium for the specimen nickel. That nickel was second to importance to the Botanic Gardens specimen piece. Today I don’t think it’s very important.

    Thomas Jefferson did more than his share in the founding of this country. We can thank him for the Declaration of Independence and the Louisiana Purchase. As is the case with most presidents his second term in office was not as successful as his first. His second fours years were marked by a useless shipping embargo that was intended to keep us out of a war with England or France. Unfortunately it only caused an economic recession for U.S. citizens.

    Jefferson has always been an enigma. One the one hand he wrote the Declaration of Independence which set fourth the idealism upon which this country was founded. On the other he held slaves and never came out against the institution. For all his brilliance he was a very poor money manager who died broke. At the time of his death he was making plans to hold a lottery to raise funds to pay his debts.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find nothing at all interesting in this coin. THe portrait is unattractive, the rear design elements are poorly laid out. Mintage is high, collector interest is Nil...


    my only wonder is why the OP is enthralled with them??
  • nycounselnycounsel Posts: 1,229 ✭✭
    find nothing at all interesting in this coin. THe portrait is unattractive, the rear design elements are poorly laid out. Mintage is high, collector interest is Nil...

    my only wonder is why the OP is enthralled with them??


    The OP isn't alone, I like them too. I disagree with your assessment of the design, I like the portrait and the reverse. Mintage is high (around 267,000) because these sold well when they were released. I wouldn't describe collector interest as "nil", these just aren't scarce enough to command much of a premium.

    As for trying to acquire 100 of the '94 coin & currency sets, that would not be an easy task. I doubt anyone has significant quantities of these and I'm sure a number of the sets were cracked to get the nickel.
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I find the commemorative attractive.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 ?

    That's a big order. Did you find an anomaly ?
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He is selling them to BNB at a 40% profit. image
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    I don't make fun of anyones collecting interests no matter how silly they seem to be.

    I like these coins. I'm still waiting for someone to show me more than 100 of them in government packaging. How about 50? How about a dozen?

    Seems like they should be out there based on the mintages ?
  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't make fun of anyones collecting interests no matter how silly they seem to be.

    I like these coins. >>



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    I agree with you philosophy and I have only seen pics of the commem, I like it too. Never knew about the set, but it sound neat!
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had 20 but sold most of them. Now I only have 3 set's I may get more if there are the right price.


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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please accept my apologies. Not making fun of that at all...it just seems everything else you have is TOP SHELF...just wondering why you were sniffing around modern commems. Seems odd and was wondering if you were gearing up for a buyer or something.



    that being said, Im not a fan of the coin, but I can see the nickel guys needing one.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Please accept my apologies. Not making fun of that at all...it just seems everything else you have is TOP SHELF...just wondering why you were sniffing around modern commems. Seems odd and was wondering if you were gearing up for a buyer or something.
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    Thank you and accepted but............odd? You think it's odd? Odd things happening in the coin business? No, really? Why never! image

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    I don't know if that's a good analogy or not but what I'm saying is I like em! I just like the dang things and so I'm buying them.

    That's one of the greatest things about the hobby. It's FUN! With all the serious sh-t life hands us , here's a little place where all of us can visit, no matter what our finances whether we're mega money CEO's or students, there's a place here for us to learn about our history, or history in general, art, commerce, and all the things attached to numismatics and also have FUN!

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got two in the shop image I wish I had a 100, Tom... you can trust I'd help you out.

    Joe
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Joe image

    Anyone have a set that contains a star note? Howzabout an image please?
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    misterearlygold thinks its a fun coin, so if it's fun, a hundred of them is a hundred times as fun!

    i like how AMERICA is in the trees... is the word incuse?

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  • I bought 30 sets a few months ago for $36 each. Between the Botanic Gardens set (97) and the Jefferson Set (94) I have over 200 now. I love them!
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    you made me buy another

    I did a search on eBay for 'Jefferson Currency Set'
    and found 37 listings
    was scrolling down to link a pic for you and did a BIN on this one (a star note for you)

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    edit to add, when searching the listings, there is a seller with more than 10 available at $55+ shipping
    seller coinsbybobby - maybe you can buy 100 from them
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    A star note is an error? The bill in my set is an "A" (Philadelphia) note.
    A couple of quotes from the set:
    "A fitting tribute to the father of America's decimal coinage system"
    "In 1785, Congress enacted legislation to establish America's first national coinage. This new monetary system was based upon principles articulated by Thomas Jefferson a year earlier in his Notes on the Establishment of a Money Unit, and of a Coinage for the United States." image
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    star notes are not errors,

    they are made to replace regular notes during production


    but are much rarer than regular notes, so some people collect them
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    Thanks! What's the purpose of "replacing regular notes during production"?
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  • STAR notes are done due to various reasons, bill may miss one of the printing plates, be off center, notes are destroyed when rolls of paper are spliced together, out of register and so on.
  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭
    I have a 2 of these dollars that have some sweet rainbow toning. I picked them up about 5 years back at a coin shop. when i moved 8 months ago i have no idea where i put them lol. I had a few other modern commems that have to be with it that are also nice toners. I gotta find them image
  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i have both sets and love em just went and looked no star note for me but another thing learned....................good luck in your seach
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i> find nothing at all interesting in this coin. THe portrait is unattractive, the rear design elements are poorly laid out. Mintage is high, collector interest is Nil...

    my only wonder is why the OP is enthralled with them??


    The OP isn't alone, I like them too. I disagree with your assessment of the design, I like the portrait and the reverse. Mintage is high (around 267,000) because these sold well when they were released. I wouldn't describe collector interest as "nil", these just aren't scarce enough to command much of a premium.

    As for trying to acquire 100 of the '94 coin & currency sets, that would not be an easy task. I doubt anyone has significant quantities of these and I'm sure a number of the sets were cracked to get the nickel. >>




    First, collector interest is very strong in the Jefferson $ issue. They sell for a handsome premium to greysheet.
    Second, I have 16 coin & currency sets in stock and 5 on feepay. I've bought & sold large quantities of the c&c sets on multiple occasions. The sets with star notes and fancy serial numbers are the keepers.

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