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TdizzleTdizzle Posts: 27
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Found some nice ones. Thinking about submitting for grading but not sure if they'll grade where I think. A few small rim hits but otherwise gorgeous

Oh wise ones care to opine? Within the limitations of poor photography of course(used a dinolite, really limited depth of field)

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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    I think they would go MS66. Pretty nice coins and photos.
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  • TdizzleTdizzle Posts: 27

    Thanks, I was thinking 65/66 best case.

    Never submitted before, might try these as a learning experince.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are nice for sure. I was thinking 66 on the first and 65 on the 2nd.

    go for it.

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  • TdizzleTdizzle Posts: 27
    Thanks all, I'll report back with the official grades
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66/65 is my guess as well.

    Mine graded 66
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  • TdizzleTdizzle Posts: 27
    Now that's a nice picture !
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, but I think they have both been polished.
    Neat finds, but not worth submitting for grading.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    The second coin will post as Genuine since there appears to be an old roller mark Abe's shoulder. Toned over, but still a roller mark.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The second coin will post as Genuine since there appears to be an old roller mark Abe's shoulder. Toned over, but still a roller mark.

    >>



    I agree about the second coin - there is also something funny going on at K-5 on the reverse rim, there are several evenly spaced raised bumps which look like some sort of mechanical damage to me.


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  • collegecoincollectorcollegecoincollector Posts: 426
    the first one will grade at least a point or two higher mainly because the strike is much better on the reverse. note the mushy look of the O in ONE and e pluribus at the top on the second coin, often TPGs take this into account when determining the grade. unfortunately there are times when they won't go above 65 if the O is mushy

    nice finds either way though!
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,159 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now that's a nice picture ! >>




    It's a compucheap ebay image.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't submit the second one as I think the rims are going to hold it back to 64.

    Shoulder roughness is often attributed to the planchet and forgiven. High point. But Lee may be correct.

    At 65 it's a $20 coin, 66, $55. And only 14 coins have made 67. PCGS cites $4,000 (I have one I crossed from NGC).

    So over all I don't think either is worth the grading and shipping fees unless you think there's a reasonable shot at 67.
    Lance.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would give (based on photographs) the first one a generous 65, and I do not think the second will slab. The first one appears, (in the photograph.... could be misleading.... to have been rubbed with a fine jewelers cloth - the high points look 'polished'. If that is true (and the picture could be misleading) it likely will not slab either. Cheers, RickO
  • TdizzleTdizzle Posts: 27

    Thanks all for the information and observations image
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Roller mark or weakly struck area?



    << <i>The second coin will post as Genuine since there appears to be an old roller mark Abe's shoulder. Toned over, but still a roller mark.

    image >>

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Roller mark or weakly struck area?



    << <i>The second coin will post as Genuine since there appears to be an old roller mark Abe's shoulder. Toned over, but still a roller mark. >>

    >>



    Well, PCGS called this a roller mark (Please ignore the hair):

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    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    ouch




    << <i>

    << <i>Roller mark or weakly struck area?



    << <i>The second coin will post as Genuine since there appears to be an old roller mark Abe's shoulder. Toned over, but still a roller mark. >>

    >>



    Well, PCGS called this a roller mark (Please ignore the hair):

    image >>

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not to be critical, but perhaps sending coins to PCGS for grading isn't the best way to learn how to grade. i would suggest you spend quite a while learning first, and the best way to do that is to look at as many already graded coins as possible at as many shows as possible. the field of Numismatics is rife with deception and the Tuition can be very, very expensive. why not take the slow-train and let PCGS teach you how to grade for free by using coins they've already graded instead of paying $15-$30 a coin??
  • centmastercentmaster Posts: 504 ✭
    Please don't waste your money on grading these. As stated above, you can learn how PCGS grades for free by looking at hundreds of their coins. As for a 53D, only a shot 67 would be worth sending in, and to an amateur it would have to look like a 68RD (a grade which doesn't exist.) Your coins would grade 65 (66 on a great day) because of weakness in obverse lettering for coin#1 and 64/5 RD or BB'd on coin#2. 67RD wouldn't happen in a hundred tries. Take the 50 bucks you would have spent on these and treat yourself to something!
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    you can buy that quality stuff on eBay delivered for under $10

    the first coin looks dead to me - how is the luster?
    the second, besides the obverse roller has very eroded dies on the reverse making a weak strike and low grade


    I realize it is easier to grade a coin in the slab than raw - but like has been said, there are cheaper more effective methods to do what you want

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