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So these folks came in the store today with some coins...

SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
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this was a mother & son with some items that belonged to the father/husband who passed recently, anyway I bought a few items all very basic like Lincoln Cent Albums, nothing special, in talking it seems they had a 1909 s vdb at home, I said bring it in there worth a substantial amount of money depending on grade, a couple hours later the son returned with these........

a 1909 S VDB cough, cough, and a 1909 S Lincoln that looks chemically abused.......opinions welcome and appreciated....thanks!



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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭
    They are both not genuine.

    Are they for sale?

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  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm probably the least qualified person to respond, but is the "VDB" always off center like that?
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034 ✭


    << <i>I'm probably the least qualified person to respond, but is the "VDB" always off center like that? >>



    Yes, it is.
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  • OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561 ✭
    Both look like added mintmarks.


    How did the family take the bad news?
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I am no expert either so I ask, was the S on the alleged 1909 S VDB taken from a cent of another year and applied to a real 1909 VDB cent?
  • Rob790Rob790 Posts: 547 ✭
    Looks like an added mint mark on both.
  • InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭
    Diagnostics provided by PCGS.

    Edit to add: I agree based on the above link that the first coin pictured is an added mintmark but I am unsure of the second. This really isn't my series but I'm always interested in learning.
  • stinkinlincolnstinkinlincoln Posts: 2,733 ✭
    Fakes.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Diagnostics provided by PCGS.

    Edit to add: I agree based on the above link that the first coin pictured is an added mintmark but I am unsure of the second. This really isn't my series but I'm always interested in learning. >>



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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    Sorry, I don't mean to pile on, but my immediate reaction was that the S's were wrong.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The S shape is incorrect (no parallel serifs). Its position on the S-VDB is incorrect. None of the 4 obverse dies has any part of the S under any part of the first 9.

    The VDB looks right. Everything points to added mintmarks.

    How sad for the widow and son.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are fairly obvious when viewed under high magnification. However, certainly done well enough to con a neophyte. Cheers, RickO

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