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<< <i>Harshly cleaned >>
I understand, but those flow lines are all in the planchet. Hairlines seem to be on the reverse, more than the obverse.
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<< <i>Very tough call without seeing in hand- your photos are fine, its just that the coin pictured needs a closer in hand look. >>
It's going to Baltimore with me next week!
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<< <i>PR58 >>
Why? It doesn't look to have been circulated or mishandled so as to deserve a grade that low.
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<< <i>PR58 >>
Why? It doesn't look to have been circulated or mishandled so as to deserve a grade that low. >>
Last year I sold a PCGS PF62CAM 1883 trade. Newer (blue) holder. It had a great strike and about 1/10th that number of hairlines. That coin looks scrubbed with a brillo in comparison. So just by comparison: it isn't a 62 or 61. So 58.
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<< <i>PR58 >>
Why? It doesn't look to have been circulated or mishandled so as to deserve a grade that low. >>
Last year I sold a PCGS PF62CAM 1883 trade. Newer (blue) holder. It had a great strike and about 1/10th that number of hairlines. That coin looks scrubbed with a brillo in comparison. So just by comparison: it isn't a 62 or 61. So 58. >>
Thanks for the reply. I suspect that much of what looks like hairlines is actually mint-made die striations.
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<< <i>PR58 >>
Why? It doesn't look to have been circulated or mishandled so as to deserve a grade that low. >>
Last year I sold a PCGS PF62CAM 1883 trade. Newer (blue) holder. It had a great strike and about 1/10th that number of hairlines. That coin looks scrubbed with a brillo in comparison. So just by comparison: it isn't a 62 or 61. So 58. >>
Thanks for the reply. I suspect that much of what looks like hairlines is actually mint-made die striations. >>
Yeah that's true. They run right through the devices and under letters, etc. I'm having a tough time telling the die striations from the hairlines though. Virtually no hairlines on the devices.
If Mark is in Baltimore I'll probably stop by his table for him to check on it before I submit it.
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<< <i>that's a great picture, also the larger version! >>
Thank you. Actually it's cut in half, too large to load otherwise. I love my D90 with my Sigma 150mm lens.
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I'll bet with different lighting and angles the die polish lines won't seem so prominent.
Here's a PR63 shot in more favorable light. No cameo.
Lance.
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Mark raised the question of CAM but I guess it was denied because of the somewhat hazy fields
<< <i>This thread and the pics show the difficulty that exists for many people separating hairlines from polish lines on photos. The difference is easily solved with coin in one hand and glass in other. The clue in this case is that almost all of the the lines are in the fields and not on the figure or other elevated aspects on the coin. Are there also hairlines in addition to polish lines and scattered tics in the fields, I could not tell from this picture.
Mark raised the question of CAM but I guess it was denied because of the somewhat hazy fields >>
Yes, that is the key. I guessed low because I thought I could see lines crossing some of the devices. I was also looking on my phone and thought I saw some issues on some of the devices. probably just compression distortion from the cell phone picture routine. --Jery