1980 Bird/Magic RC and some snooty banter.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 5:29AM

Been wanting this card in a PSA 7 lately, and was perusing the BIN's on ebay. One seller has 2 of them priced at $174 each, OBO. I researched the recent sales of this card so as to not pay more than necessary and saw that the last 4 to sell have been in the $120-$130 range. Anyway, I made a best offer of $125 and was "auto declined". Then I messaged the seller with the message below:

'Last 3 PSA 7's to sell on ebay were $127 on the 26th, $125 on the 20th, and $122 on the 17th. I made a best offer of $125 and was "auto declined". Care to reconsider that, or should I just buy the next one at auction for that amount? Thanks.'

He responded with:

'I'd say grab the next one that auctions for $125.
Thanks for your interest.'

So I went to another seller who had one at $199 OBO. Again, I offered $125 and it was accepted. Consequently, another PSA 7 had sold via auction for $128 while this was all taking place. I guess some people want to actually SELL cards, while other just want to use ebay as a place to display their collections.

vladguerrero · January 28, 2010 5:31AM

or maybe he thought you are a d*ck

jeffcbay · January 28, 2010 5:33AM

Some sellers want to put feelers out there for their cards. They don't necessarily WANT to sell their cards, but they'll take above market value for it if someone offers. Know what I mean? I wouldn't take it personally, they probably just want a premium for their cards.

cwazzy · January 28, 2010 5:35AM

<< or maybe he thought you are a d*ck >>

That's what I would have thought had I received that message. Or if I read these boards...

itzagoner · January 28, 2010 5:35AM

fast nickel, slow dime.

goraiders · January 28, 2010 5:36AM

<< or maybe he thought you are a d*ck >>

I'd go with that one to.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 5:39AM

<< or maybe he thought you are a d*ck >>

I guess if quoting actual sales figures and offering to negotiate a price is being a d*ck, then every single actuary, every single real estate appraiser, and every single person who does not feel like overpaying is also a d*ck. Like I said, some sellers actually want sales....some dont.

leathtech · January 28, 2010 5:39AM

<< 

<< or maybe he thought you are a d*ck >>

I'd go with that one to. >>

I'm going to pile on and agree...

nightcrawler · January 28, 2010 5:42AM

<< Unlike most of you, who "gotta know" what the priceguide says before doing anything card related, I simply buy cards because I like them. I dont give a frog's fat ass what VCP is on this card, or any other card I own. >>

<< I researched the recent sales of this card so as to not pay more than necessary and saw that the last 4 to sell have been in the $120-$130 range. >>

123Slider · January 28, 2010 5:43AM

<< 

<< Unlike most of you, who "gotta know" what the priceguide says before doing anything card related, I simply buy cards because I like them. I dont give a frog's fat ass what VCP is on this card, or any other card I own. >>

<< I researched the recent sales of this card so as to not pay more than necessary and saw that the last 4 to sell have been in the $120-$130 range. >>

>>

POTD!

leathtech · January 28, 2010 5:43AM

<< 

<< or maybe he thought you are a d*ck >>

I guess if quoting actual sales figures and offering to negotiate a price is being a d*ck, then every single actuary, every single real estate appraiser, and every single person who does not feel like overpaying is also a d*ck. Like I said, some sellers actually want sales....some dont. >>

If the guy does not care when the card sells what is his motivation to drop the price for you after you have basically slapped him in the face - I'm sure he knows the real value of the card he is just waiting for the person who must have the card at whatever the price.

corvette1340 · January 28, 2010 5:44AM

Don't take stuff like this personal. It happens all the time in all forms of business. It's likely that the seller is an idiot and pays way too much for his cards or he just doesn't need to move them and doesn't care what the market price is for them. At my car dealership, I will beat anyone's price on comparable cars I have but if someone tells me that Joe's car lot down the road has the same car for x amount of dollars which is WAY less then mine, then I will likely tell them to go to Joe's. Of course, I'll do it in a respectful way.

ripkenintheminors · January 28, 2010 5:44AM

Sometimes I list something that I could live with keeping. However, if someone pays the high BIN I'm willing to let it go.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 5:44AM

<< 

<< Unlike most of you, who "gotta know" what the priceguide says before doing anything card related, I simply buy cards because I like them. I dont give a frog's fat ass what VCP is on this card, or any other card I own. >>

<< I researched the recent sales of this card so as to not pay more than necessary and saw that the last 4 to sell have been in the $120-$130 range. >>

>>

Just because I dont care what my cards are worth does not mean I want to waste money when buying them. I could have just hit the $179 BIN and been done with it. OR I could buy one at current market value and then buy another VG 3 T206 card for the same amount of cash. Dont confuse thriftyness with pure stupidity.

leathtech · January 28, 2010 5:45AM

<< 

<< Unlike most of you, who "gotta know" what the priceguide says before doing anything card related, I simply buy cards because I like them. I dont give a frog's fat ass what VCP is on this card, or any other card I own. >>

<< I researched the recent sales of this card so as to not pay more than necessary and saw that the last 4 to sell have been in the $120-$130 range. >>

>>

Nice find!

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 5:47AM

<< 

<< 

<< or maybe he thought you are a d*ck >>

I guess if quoting actual sales figures and offering to negotiate a price is being a d*ck, then every single actuary, every single real estate appraiser, and every single person who does not feel like overpaying is also a d*ck. Like I said, some sellers actually want sales....some dont. >>

If the guy does not care when the card sells what is his motivation to drop the price for you after you have basically slapped him in the face - I'm sure he knows the real value of the card he is just waiting for the person who must have the card at whatever the price. >>

Agreed, but only when that particular item comes onto the market once or twice per year. However, in this case, that card is sold on a weekly basis for around $125...week in, week out. Only a total MORON would spend $179 on something he could buy for $125 at least 75 times per year.

jeffcbay · January 28, 2010 5:50AM

<< Agreed, but only when that particular item comes onto the market once or twice per year. However, in this case, that card is sold on a weekly basis for around $125...week in, week out. Only a total MORON would spend $179 on something he could buy for $125 at least 75 times per year. >>

It happens every day. Some people spend $500 on a card that I bought for $150 a few weeks prior. It happens. Just move on to the next card.

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 5:53AM

<< 

<< 

<< Unlike most of you, who "gotta know" what the priceguide says before doing anything card related, I simply buy cards because I like them. I dont give a frog's fat ass what VCP is on this card, or any other card I own. >>

<< I researched the recent sales of this card so as to not pay more than necessary and saw that the last 4 to sell have been in the $120-$130 range. >>

>>

Nice find!

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This guy is a hoot, gonna miss his schtick when he finally pops his cork and gets shown the door.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 5:54AM

<< 

<< Agreed, but only when that particular item comes onto the market once or twice per year. However, in this case, that card is sold on a weekly basis for around $125...week in, week out. Only a total MORON would spend $179 on something he could buy for $125 at least 75 times per year. >>

It happens every day. Some people spend $500 on a card that I bought for $150 a few weeks prior. It happens. Just move on to the next card. >>

But did that particular card realize sales of $150 on 4 seperate occassions within the past 2 weeks before someone paid $500 for it? Thats the difference. This PSA 7 Bird is nothing special at all. They always sell right in the same range of $120-$130. Its not like if I dont buy the one at auction today I have to wait another 4 months for another to pop up. They are always available. So why would anyone but an idiot buy it for $174?

corvette1340 · January 28, 2010 6:00AM

just buy another one.

jeffcbay · January 28, 2010 6:03AM

There are idiots born every day, and some people want those idiots to buy their cards at a premium. What can I say? Don't get mad at the guy, just move on.

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 6:03AM

Yipee, I got my first unsolicited PM from this clown.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:04AM

The point is I saved myself $49. I think i'll use that extra cash to buy another T206 card. I love how members here pile on when its actually ME who is the real winner. Funny stuff right there!

ripkenintheminors · January 28, 2010 6:05AM

E.L.M.O.

Enough, let's move on.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:07AM

<< There are idiots born every day, and some people want those idiots to buy their cards at a premium. What can I say? Don't get mad at the guy, just move on. >>

Not mad at all. Heres the actuality of the situation. I have the card at a price I wanted to pay. A seller has sold a card at the price they were comfortable in accepting, and the original seller still has that overpriced card in his ebay store that he is paying to display. I love it!!! I think its amusing.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:09AM

<< Yipee, I got my first unsolicited PM from this clown. >>

No different than the unsolicited comment you made in this thread that had NOTHING to do with the subject matter. But perhaps you didnt realize that.

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 6:10AM

Realization isn't my concern, now back to coolville with you.

lsutigers1973 · January 28, 2010 6:13AM

<< The point is I saved myself $49. I think i'll use that extra cash to buy another T206 card. >>

Or play a hand of blackjack just like all the other fleas.

Nathaniel1960 · January 28, 2010 6:20AM

I subbed a really nice Bird/Magic RC and it came back a PSA 7. I would gladly pay $125 for that same card. I bought the whole set for $125, btw, and subbed it. So I am happy with where I came out. But I think it would be at least 7.5 on re-sub (subbed before half grades).

I would argue that is a top 5 card in the BKB hobby, so $125 blows my mind.

MBMiller25 · January 28, 2010 6:24AM

initialD · January 28, 2010 6:31AM

Benjamins Baby!

Morgoth · January 28, 2010 6:32AM

Gecko do you drive a mini cooper?

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:34AM

<< Gecko do you drive a mini cooper? >>

A 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 door is my personal vehicle. A 40,000 pound 1997 HME fire engine is "my" professional ride. Any other questions?

goraiders · January 28, 2010 6:37AM

<< Benjamins Baby! >>

You got it,

Me love you long time...

yankeeno7 · January 28, 2010 6:37AM

This tool is a perfect example of someone who talks through both sides of his mouth. Whines about one thing one moment then whines about just the opposite when its about himself. A real piece of work. I'll be waiting for my nasty PM now.

Oh, and so you know, I will tell you now before I do it...I'll post it public for everyone to see. So no surprises and no whining when I do it.

initialD · January 28, 2010 6:39AM

<< 

<< Benjamins Baby! >>

You got it,

Me love you long time... >>

Man!! That's some scratch!! You must be a successful high grade vintage card dealer!

Cool coins too

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:39AM

Thats probably more cash than you have ever held at any time in your life goraiders. Thats why you keep posting it I bet. Someone is very impressed!!!

Silly kids.

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 6:39AM

You could buy a lot of steak with that cash.

initialD · January 28, 2010 6:42AM

If not for cards....that dough could go towards an awesome family vacation

or invest into some gold

scashaggy · January 28, 2010 6:43AM

I say the seller can sell HIS card for whatever HE wants. We as buyers don't always like it and we don't have to, just move on.

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:43AM

<< You could buy a lot of steak with that cash. >>

That particular stack of cash is long gone. I bought almost 3 ounces of gold that weekend, and let my wife do some jewelry shopping with the rest. Would you like to see what $50,000 worth of gold and silver looks like?

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 6:46AM

No thanks, that's more than my little heart could take.

initialD · January 28, 2010 6:48AM

hateraide

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:48AM

Its actually not as impressive as you may think anyway. It would all fit into a container about the size of a box of cereal with some room to spare.

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 6:48AM

Show me what $30 worth of Wilt autos look like instead

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:50AM

<< Show me what $30 worth of Wilt autos look like instead >>

Should look like a little pile of shredded cardboard by now.....but then again, it all depends on what kind of scumbag you made the deal with I suppose.

goraiders · January 28, 2010 6:50AM

<< Show me what $30 worth of Wilt autos look like instead >>

Ding Ding Ding,We have a winner,pod!

gecko109 · January 28, 2010 6:52AM

I underestimated just how many boyfriends Bill has on this forum.

nightcrawler · January 28, 2010 6:53AM

gecko, what's that coin on the left? It looks cool in the pic.

fattymacs · January 28, 2010 6:53AM

No, you just underestimated how big of a tool you are.

goraiders · January 28, 2010 6:53AM

<< 

<< Show me what $30 worth of Wilt autos look like instead >>

Should look like a little pile of shredded cardboard by now.....but then again, it all depends on what kind of scumbag you made the deal with I suppose.

>>

Speaking of scumbag,anybody want an intersting read on the subject,pm me,
I will show you what a scumbag pm looks like,a whole bunch of them.Just ask!

J.R.

1980 Bird/Magic RC and some snooty banter.

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