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Bill's (LSUTigers1973) Wilt is Not Authentic... But Let's Move On...

Though it was not a shocker to anyone who follows NBA Autographs, Bill's (LSUTigers1973) Wilt Chamberlain was deemed not genuine by PSA/DNA Quick Opinion.

That being said after re-considering the whole scenario it probably could have been handled in a different manner via PM and only resorting to the public tarring if no redress was made.

In reality I threw down the white glove because I am in the market for a Wilt to finish up my NBA 50 greatest collection (down to my last 5) and when I saw this "deal" I got excited until I saw it was a fake and then was being sold by a board member.

I would suggest Bill perform some type of public disembowment for that fake Wilt, but that will be his decision, and whether or not he will pull the auction if eBay does not do it for him.


For those of you who tried to pile on and distract the situation, I ask you what were your true motives? This hobby needs to stay above the table whenever possible, as there are too many scam artists out there. Through PMs, etc., I believe Bill is not a fan of NBA autographs and made a honest mistake.

Let's move on.

My wife is going in for inducement today as she is overdue with our next child, so I will be away from the boards for a couple days, so there will be no Tuesday free-for-all here.


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    UphillUphill Posts: 361 ✭✭
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    Edit: And I hope all is well with you, your wife and your newborn.
    Jamie

    Looking for Charlie (Charley) Maxwell cards.
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    Bill LSU you should be ashamed of yourself....

    i saw some of the JUNK you try to sell....are you trying to push people away from this hobby? im sure you have succeeded ....

    fake grading companies, fake autos....... great work......you should be proud!
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    corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    In before I go to work and it hits 10 pages.
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭
    in
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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    KK Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭
    image HAS STARTED!!!

    1ST ROUND ON ME!!!

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    KK Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭
    and who could forget...

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    BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭
    Post padding before this one goes poof. image
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    scooter729scooter729 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭
    What the heck, I'll get in before the lock too...
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭


    << <i>and who could forget...

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    HOT
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    goyegoye Posts: 454 ✭✭
    california time zone check......tick, tick, tick
    1985-86 O Pee Chee PSA 910 Hockey
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    IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Carol J.....check your email
    Successful dealings with Wcsportscards94558, EagleEyeKid, SamsGirl214, Volver, DwayneDrain, Oaksey25, Griffins, Cardfan07, Etc.
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    billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭✭
    I just realized that Dee Snider isn't really that hot without his makeup
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    initialDinitialD Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭
    in!
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    fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭
    Made it.
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    BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    The only thing good about this thread is popcorn girl. image
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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that left headlight on from her arm bumping into it?
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    numbers 8535 & 8536 of ????
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    i extend my jealousy, he extends something else....
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    jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Bill Bill bannana Bo Bill fe fi foe Phill
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
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    initialDinitialD Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The only thing good about this thread is popcorn girl. image >>



    I only see a pic of an arm saying excuse me!!
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What I miss?



    Steve


    Edited to add: Good luck today Justin.
    Good for you.
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    in before these guys lock this down...

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    jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭✭
    What's better than one? TWO! image

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    jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Steve it looks like Bill is selling this Chamberlain auto on Ebay and this guy wants one so he PSA DNA it and they said fake.
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    ah yes. inducement. interesting that Justin should be attending one today, after encouraging one yesterday. almost ironic.
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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    More importantly, I believe Nick is correct.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Good Luck today, Justin. I hope everything goes well with the delivery.
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    KK Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭
    I remember a while ago we were talking about item viewed counters. Well the one on this infamous card is 136 now and surely going to skyrocket once the sun rises in Shreveport, LA.

    Not to mention there is an offer in on it...
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    BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just realized that Dee Snider isn't really that hot without his makeup >>



    Well he's not very hot with it either. image

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    With all do respect , psa's quick opinion isnt always right . If the card got sent in , it could come back real . I just hope
    everything works out for all involved.
    A collector of all things Braves
    Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
    Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Steve it looks like Bill is selling this Chamberlain auto on Ebay and this guy wants one so he PSA DNA it and they said fake. >>



    It's a little more complicated than that. Long story somewhat short: DrJ called out Bill, saying they should hold off the group sub without discussing his concerns with Bill first. Bill gave a reasonable explanation, offered a quick opinion, and regardless of the results, would donate money to one of my charities.

    This wasn't good enough for DrJ, so he decided to make it rain on the interwebs with a $100 bill and create another thread calling out Bill for some 89 Griffeys he was selling.

    As for DrJ's most recent post:



    << <i>Though it was not a shocker to anyone who follows NBA Autographs, Bill's (LSUTigers1973) Wilt Chamberlain was deemed not genuine by PSA/DNA Quick Opinion.

    That being said after re-considering the whole scenario it probably could have been handled in a different manner via PM and only resorting to the public tarring if no redress was made.

    In reality I threw down the white glove because I am in the market for a Wilt to finish up my NBA 50 greatest collection (down to my last 5) and when I saw this "deal" I got excited until I saw it was a fake and then was being sold by a board member.

    I would suggest Bill perform some type of public disembowment for that fake Wilt, but that will be his decision, and whether or not he will pull the auction if eBay does not do it for him.


    For those of you who tried to pile on and distract the situation, I ask you what were your true motives? This hobby needs to stay above the table whenever possible, as there are too many scam artists out there. Through PMs, etc., I believe Bill is not a fan of NBA autographs and made a honest mistake.

    Let's move on.

    My wife is going in for inducement today as she is overdue with our next child, so I will be away from the boards for a couple days, so there will be no Tuesday free-for-all here. >>



    That's a half reared apology if I've ever seen one but who am I to judge. My "true motives" were CLEARLY written in the thread I provided above. You were clearly out of line and could have easily avoided it with a simple PM to start. However, YOUR "true motives" should be the ones questioned. Trying to discredit an established, generous, and respected member for your own entertainment.

    While no one knows how it plays out going forward, I still wish you the best with your newborn.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    Justin,

    This thread was not necessary and will probably get locked up or poofed. All you had to do is PM Bill and let him know the results of the PSA quick opinion. From there its up to Bill to remove the listing and up to Ebay to enforce the removal if it doesn't get done.

    In my opinion Bill doesn't owe you or the board anything...No apology or disembowment. Actually you went after a board member without giving him the chance to rectify or look into the situation.

    Lastly, I think your reputation has taken a big hit after what transpired yesterday, and what you have started this morning. I sincerely wish you the best and please realize you, your wife, and your baby have my prayers on a safe and speedy delivery. Please let us know when you get back from the hospital.


    Sincerely,
    brian
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    initialDinitialD Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭
    pad!
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just realized that Dee Snider isn't really that hot without his makeup >>



    Well he's not very hot with it either. image




    I think that the chick to Dee's immediate right is better looking. image Carrot Top hasn't changed much...
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    In before the Poof !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Neilimage
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
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    Good luck with the baby.
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    pad
    A collector of all things Braves
    Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
    Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
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    KK Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭
    I don't think it's DrJ thats going to set off Bill...

    Fandango
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    hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    What the hell is a "public disembowment"?
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think it's DrJ thats going to set off Bill...

    Fandango >>



    Didn't you know that Fandango is Bill's alt?

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good luck with the baby. >>



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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>What the hell is a "public disembowment"? >>



    i wondered that myself.....but i don't wanna be the one to use the fist.
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    kidzfundkidzfund Posts: 565 ✭✭✭
    I'm just juicing my numbers.....
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    BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    55!

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    KK Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭
    Bill just pulled the card.
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    RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Wow, I've seen the God "force field" employed before (McGwire did that yesterday) and the patriotism "force field" used extensively, and politicians use the "think of our children" force field frequently, but I've not seen the "my wife is having a baby" force field until now. Interesting and innovative.

    "Force field" = refers to a tactical use of a symbol or action in order to innoculate the presenter from criticism and gain favor/sympathy from the sheeple. In extreme cases, even induces feelings of guilt.

    IOW, informing us of your good news does not excuse your conduct yesterday.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bill just pulled the card. >>



    He didn't just do it because I checked earlier (about an hour ago?) and was already cancelled.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    I guess the big picture that some people are missing here is that someone sold Bill a fake auto via the B/S/T section of our forums...

    Way to take the high road Bill and wish Justin good luck today!!
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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    More popcorn girl please.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, I've seen the God "force field" employed before (McGwire did that yesterday) and the patriotism "force field" used extensively, and politicians use the "think of our children" force field frequently, but I've not seen the "my wife is having a baby" force field until now. Interesting and innovative.

    "Force field" = refers to a tactical use of a symbol or action in order to innoculate the presenter from criticism and gain favor/sympathy from the sheeple. In extreme cases, even induces feelings of guilt.

    IOW, informing us of your good news does not excuse your conduct yesterday. >>



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