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crypto79
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Am I wrong?
I got around 30+$ worth of ebay bucks in December and decided to buy a little something one the cheep to use it up. I ended up buying a decent looking 49s PCGS AU55 Franklin from coinedoutSeller
I then found out that I don't get my coupon till the 9th after winning so I drop them a line wishing a happy new year and asking for a 7 day reprieve till the coupon comes but saying if they wanted I would just pay the 35$. They respond talking about rules and policy and to pay now Ya ya ya ya.
I send them the money with a note saying that I was surprised that they would pass on the chance to extend good customer service esp for a trivial amount but the money was sent and they replied with a mocking condescending reply talking about if I don't like their rules then maybe ebay isn't the place for me with some other rude stuff. I felt like I was in an argument with a frat boy.
Does this deserve a neg or is that over sensitive on my part?
I got around 30+$ worth of ebay bucks in December and decided to buy a little something one the cheep to use it up. I ended up buying a decent looking 49s PCGS AU55 Franklin from coinedoutSeller
I then found out that I don't get my coupon till the 9th after winning so I drop them a line wishing a happy new year and asking for a 7 day reprieve till the coupon comes but saying if they wanted I would just pay the 35$. They respond talking about rules and policy and to pay now Ya ya ya ya.
I send them the money with a note saying that I was surprised that they would pass on the chance to extend good customer service esp for a trivial amount but the money was sent and they replied with a mocking condescending reply talking about if I don't like their rules then maybe ebay isn't the place for me with some other rude stuff. I felt like I was in an argument with a frat boy.
Does this deserve a neg or is that over sensitive on my part?
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terms?
No negative in my opinion.
bob
While I don't condone the seller's attitude (even if the delay really couldn't work out), I also don't condone a buyer trying to push the customer service line on a dealer. At least from how I read your post, it seems like there was a less than friendly attitude in your email, and in a business with lots of strong personalities, its often best to simply know when to drop it. You asked the question and the dealer gave his reply. There's no need for bickering to follow.
<< <i>What did the seller do wrong? Didn't you ask him to change his
terms?
No negative in my opinion.
bob >>
Pick up a email fight and went unprofessional in his correspondence. I don't like being talked down to be people I am giving money to. I had already paid and said I understood. I would potentially fire one of my employees for mocking a customer, a neg doesn't seem to bad to me. I know ebay is full of crazies but he had is money and didn't have to sit on his 35$ coin. I am an adult and knew I was wrong with the coupon date-He won, why pile on after the fact? Isn't a neg just telling other people that he is rude. And if it affects his money(to many sales too) shouldn’t he be less rude?
by contacting the seller asking for a payment delay, you wasted their time
you should not have done anything as most sellers will wait 7days to 14 days before they start pushing NPB
even though they may send invoice every couple of days
if your plan was to pay with eBay bucks, then you should have waited to make contact until after they intiated more pay-me emails
or filed a NPB
then you could have explained you planned on using your eBay bucks from last quarter and they are available on 1/9
as far as penalizing them for saying what they did, are you serious?
by giving them less than 5's on those stupid eBay stars, you make them pay eBay more in fees
ps - their auctions have no demand for immediate payment or any time period
I know of no eBay rules stating that auctions must be paid within XXX hours
But a Neg on ebay is a very BIG THING
Please don't do this to the seller as I can not see how he deserves it.
chris
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>He could not file a NPB until the 11th >>
Incorrect. If the sale was today, he could file the UPI on the 8th.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Perhaps you're being a bit over-sensitive, but the seller has made it clear that he understands nothing about customer service.
Russ, NCNE >>
If you were to do anything, it should probably be under the "Communication" star rating. I would probably just chalk it up and remember not to buy from him again, myself, as long as you get the coin you paid for.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
rules are rules...stick to the rules
or deal with the circumstances..
<< <i>Frankly I think you shouldn't have "spent" something you didn't have yet, i.e., the coupon. >>
He didn't know until after the fact that the coupon wasn't active until the 9th.
<< <i>There's a difference between "customer service" and letting customers dictate terms after the fact. >>
He didn't try to "dictate" terms. He asked a simple question that should have elicited a simple "sure, no problem" from the seller.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>What did the seller do wrong? Didn't you ask him to change his
terms?
No negative in my opinion.
bob >>
<< <i>Ebay sucks. >>
Ebay is probably one of the best places to get great deals on coins.
You just have to KNOW what you are buying.
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<< <i>He could not file a NPB until the 11th >>
Incorrect. If the sale was today, he could file the UPI on the 8th.
Russ, NCNE >>
Really? I thought you had to wait at least 7 days --- 4 days seems kind of soon. Perhaps I was thinking of the time for a buyer to file a "not received claim".
<< <i>Frankly I think you shouldn't have "spent" something you didn't have yet, i.e., the coupon. I fail to see why the seller should be penalized for merely wanting to be paid in a timely manner. There's a difference between "customer service" and letting customers dictate terms after the fact. That's my opinion anyhow as a seller. >>
Any payment within a week would be considered "timely" to me, but I guess I am a softie
Auction Link
So I am curious as to what "rules" the seller is referring to regarding when payment is to be received.
Irrelevant. Shouldn't have tried to use it until he knew exactly when it was active.
He didn't try to "dictate" terms...
OK, how about "renegotiate" or "change" terms then. Buyer bids under seller's TOS, wins, then tries to change payment timeframe after the fact. Yes, the seller could have agreed (and honestly were it me I likely would have just said OK), but he shouldn't be cast as the bad guy here for wanting a buyer to stick with agreed-upon terms.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
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<< <i>He could not file a NPB until the 11th >>
Incorrect. If the sale was today, he could file the UPI on the 8th.
Russ, NCNE >>
Really? I thought you had to wait at least 7 days --- 4 days seems kind of soon. Perhaps I was thinking of the time for a buyer to file a "not received claim". >>
Used to be seven days and then close on the eighth day. Now it's four and four.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>He didn't know until after the fact that the coupon wasn't active until the 9th.
Irrelevant. Shouldn't have tried to use it until he knew exactly when it was active. >>
It is indeed irrelevant, your point that is. He wasn't "spending something he didn't have" since he already paid for the coin. He was simply hoping to use a coupon.
<< <i>He didn't try to "dictate" terms...
OK, how about "renegotiate" or "change" terms then. >>
He asked a question. Why would this be considered an attempt to change anything?
<< <i>Buyer bids under seller's TOS, wins, then tries to change payment timeframe after the fact. >>
What TOS?
Some eBay sellers are simply wound too tight.
Russ, NCNE
I'm not in agreement with most responders.
I would neg him hard. I simply don't like to deal with Jerks. As a Seller I bend over backwards and that's what I think is good customer service. Anything less, I want other Buyers to know the Seller is a Jerk. Feedback is a Joke if it's not honest. To me, you had a negative customer service experience, no other way to put it.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i> Buyer bids under seller's TOS, wins, then tries to change payment timeframe after the fact. >>
Per the auction listing (linked above) there was no TOS applying to a deadline for payment.
<< <i>I would like to point out he has 14 negs in the past year some for his attitude already. >>
And the new 12 month feedback thing hides a boatload more. His toolhaus looks rather grim.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>I would like to point out he has 14 negs in the past year some for his attitude already. >>
And the new 12 month feedback thing hides a boatload more. His toolhaus looks rather grim.
Russ, NCNE >>
Neg this dealer if you personally feel he deserves it. Remember, you read comments from collectors --- and dealers. This seller certainly is not someone I would care to buy from. I already hesitate when a seller has less than 100% positive feedback, just me trying to avoid any problems in my life.
<< <i>by giving them less than 5's on those stupid eBay stars, you make them pay eBay more in fees >>
Is this right????
I've done ebay buys, and left possitive feedback, but dont bother with the ratings stars.
Am I costing my good sellers more in ebay fees??????????????
If so, and if I've delt with any of you I'm sorry for this. I didn't know.
(Priest) BLASPHEMY he said it again, did you hear him?
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<< <i>by giving them less than 5's on those stupid eBay stars, you make them pay eBay more in fees >>
Is this right????
I've done ebay buys, and left possitive feedback, but dont bother with the ratings stars.
Am I costing my good sellers more in ebay fees??????????????
If so, and if I've delt with any of you I'm sorry for this. I didn't know. >>
So you're the guy!
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>by giving them less than 5's on those stupid eBay stars, you make them pay eBay more in fees >>
Is this right????
I've done ebay buys, and left possitive feedback, but dont bother with the ratings stars.
Am I costing my good sellers more in ebay fees??????????????
If so, and if I've delt with any of you I'm sorry for this. I didn't know. >>
HAven't sold in a while, but I think if they average 5's they get 15 or 20% off their final value fees at the end of the month. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Here is what really annoys me though is I think (at least this is what I am told), that after 4 days now Ebay sends a computer automated notice to the buyer saying hey time to pay blah blah. I just worry that the buyer thinks that I am the one sending this reminder and then decides to zap me on my DSR stars because my auction says 7 days and low and behold now I lose my discount because of some computer program ebay made up! Ugh
anybody else heard this and what are your thoughts?
Look at his feedback. Getting a neg from me for sure.
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<< <i>by giving them less than 5's on those stupid eBay stars, you make them pay eBay more in fees >>
Is this right????
I've done ebay buys, and left possitive feedback, but dont bother with the ratings stars.
Am I costing my good sellers more in ebay fees??????????????
If so, and if I've delt with any of you I'm sorry for this. I didn't know. >>
If you leave no stars, it has no impact one way or the other.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Here is what really annoys me though is I think (at least this is what I am told), that after 4 days now Ebay sends a computer automated notice to the buyer saying hey time to pay blah blah >>
Yep, unless the buyer has opted out of reminders in the notifications section they get this, and feedback dunning notices. Seriously stupid interference on eBay's part.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>Here is what really annoys me though is I think (at least this is what I am told), that after 4 days now Ebay sends a computer automated notice to the buyer saying hey time to pay blah blah >>
Yep, unless the buyer has opted out of reminders in the notifications section they get this, and feedback dunning notices. Seriously stupid interference on eBay's part.
Russ, NCNE >>
So as a seller we cannot prevent those annoying automated notices from going out to buyers?
I'm not surprised the Jerk is exactly as I thought. I've been around too long to not know. You simply can't change a Jerk, not worth trying. The best you can do is let other Buyers know.