I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
<< <i>I thought once a coin was listed on the BST it wasn't supposed to be paraded around on the forum >>
I don't have any active listings on the B/S/T. Thanks Broadstruck for bringing up this fact for others and check the last date I moved my listing to the top. Coin is not for sale. Nice job!
<< <i>Here's a little controversy...do naturally rainbow toned peace dollars exist...I don't think so. Here's what I said on PCGS CoinFacts...
Note that I am of the very strong opinion that any 1921 peace dollar...indeed any peace dollar...that has any rainbow colors (blue, red, green, etc) is absolutely artificially toned. While not very scientific, my approach to toning on coins is to remember the colors I saw in the 1960's and 1970's and if a new look appears, it's artificial to me. This is kind of an "old school" approach and I may be wrong, but unless you believe global warming has created new colors for coins, it just seems illogical to me that new colors would suddenly appear naturally on coins.
So...I never saw a single Rainbow toned peace dollar in the 1960s or 1970s, but of course I saw thousands of rainbow Morgans. Perhaps the silver was a little different, or handled a little different. You certainly don't see the white spots on Morgans that you see on 1922 and 1923 peace dollars. Anyway...that's what I think. >>
<< <i>no offense, Lee, but your posted 1922 not only strikes me as AT but also NVA as in not very attractive. >>
No problem Al. That's what's so super about coins. We all have our likes and dislikes. I'll show it to you one day for your final decision. Jeremy has had it "in-hand" and he liked the obverse but the reverse was a little dark for his tastes. Just one example to reference.
<< <i>no offense, Lee, but your posted 1922 not only strikes me as AT but also NVA as in not very attractive. >>
No problem Al. That's what's so super about coins. We all have our likes and dislikes. I'll show it to you one day for your final decision. Jeremy has had it "in-hand" and he liked the obverse but the reverse was a little dark for his tastes. Just one example to reference. >>
Lee, based on the images, my guess would be that the toning is "natural" and I find it to be attractive. The obverse color, in particular, reminds me of what I occasionally see on Walking Liberty half dollars and Mercury dimes, as well as some silver commemoratives.
<< <i>I do have to wonder - how come the rarer dates never come toned? >>
Because they're rarer? I don't think there's that much difference between the frequency of colorfully toned common date Morgans relative to the rarer dates, VS. colorfully toned common date Peace Dollars relative to the rarer dates. It stands to reason that since there are far fewer colorfully toned Peace dollars than there are Morgan dollars, that there would be very few better dates of the former with color.
With respect to the Peace Dollars, there is a group of deeply, mottled, colorfully toned 1934-D's that I have seen representatives of, over the years. They are immediately recognizable and they look obviously original.
<< <i>I do have to wonder - how come the rarer dates never come toned? >>
Certainly for Morgans, the rarer dates didn't sit in vaults like the common dates that were massively over-produced relative to the need. Since I would imagine that coins with lower mintages were more often used as money with more frequency, fewer would have been stashed in an environment prone to toning. The same is likely for Peace dollars, although toning in general is rarer throughout the series compared to Morgans.
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That little untoned circle on the reverse is where the coin doctor stuck the tiny little suction cup to hold the coin while he got out the spray paint
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
<< <i>I thought once a coin was listed on the BST it wasn't supposed to be paraded around on the forum
I don't have any active listings on the B/S/T. Thanks Broadstruck for bringing up this fact for others and check the last date I moved my listing to the top. Coin is not for sale. Nice job!
<< <i>Here's a little controversy...do naturally rainbow toned peace dollars exist...I don't think so. Here's what I said on PCGS CoinFacts...
Note that I am of the very strong opinion that any 1921 peace dollar...indeed any peace dollar...that has any rainbow colors (blue, red, green, etc) is absolutely artificially toned. While not very scientific, my approach to toning on coins is to remember the colors I saw in the 1960's and 1970's and if a new look appears, it's artificial to me. This is kind of an "old school" approach and I may be wrong, but unless you believe global warming has created new colors for coins, it just seems illogical to me that new colors would suddenly appear naturally on coins.
So...I never saw a single Rainbow toned peace dollar in the 1960s or 1970s, but of course I saw thousands of rainbow Morgans. Perhaps the silver was a little different, or handled a little different. You certainly don't see the white spots on Morgans that you see on 1922 and 1923 peace dollars. Anyway...that's what I think. >>
I see many 22/23 dates, but many of the others, I dont know if I've seen a toned example for.
<< <i>Does anyone know if a 'sunnywood peace' set exists at all - one with nice toning for every date?
I see many 22/23 dates, but many of the others, I dont know if I've seen a toned example for. >>
I believe that he only collected Morgan dollars, not Peace dollars.
<< <i>I believe the reverse toning on "Toned Dollars" 1922 is probably natural. It sure looks good to me.
Like I said...I may be wrong...but...
I can tell you that most of the ones I see look AT to me.
HRH >>
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<< <i>no offense, Lee, but your posted 1922 not only strikes me as AT but also NVA as in not very attractive. >>
No problem Al.
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<< <i>no offense, Lee, but your posted 1922 not only strikes me as AT but also NVA as in not very attractive. >>
No problem Al.
Lee, based on the images, my guess would be that the toning is "natural" and I find it to be attractive. The obverse color, in particular, reminds me of what I occasionally see on Walking Liberty half dollars and Mercury dimes, as well as some silver commemoratives.
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IMO it's the toning that makes it interesting
and desireable
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<< <i>I do have to wonder - how come the rarer dates never come toned? >>
Because they're rarer?
With respect to the Peace Dollars, there is a group of deeply, mottled, colorfully toned 1934-D's that I have seen representatives of, over the years. They are immediately recognizable and they look obviously original.
How about a 23-D (which is currently at PCGS)
<< <i>Theres a 28-s and a 28 in this thread...
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From the little bit I could see in the image, the 1928 looked nice - is it yours?
Now....does anyone have a 34-s?
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Dipping on the mind, Ricko?
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<< <i>I do have to wonder - how come the rarer dates never come toned? >>
Certainly for Morgans, the rarer dates didn't sit in vaults like the common dates that were massively over-produced relative to the need. Since I would imagine that coins with lower mintages were more often used as money with more frequency, fewer would have been stashed in an environment prone to toning. The same is likely for Peace dollars, although toning in general is rarer throughout the series compared to Morgans.
<< <i>Nevermind.
I think i'm reading you.And agree.
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