A minor ethical question...

thatboyaintright · December 13, 2009 2:05PM

I have 3 coin bald eagle proof set with an ugly clad hald dollar. A very nasty spot on the eagle's egg on the reverse. Would anyone consider ot unethical to replace that original half with a better example ? Or does that ruin the integrity of the set since its technically no longer a true 3 coin set with the limited 25000 mintage. No one could possibly tell its a replacement since the capsules in the 3 coin packaging are easily opened. Thanks for the insight...

airplanenut · December 13, 2009 2:08PM

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I think the answer clearly lies in the wording of your scenario.

soty27 · December 13, 2009 2:16PM

Well what would you want the seller to do? I think honesty is always the best key in the coin buisiness. I would describe the set correctly with accurate images and leave it up to the buyer, if the buyer wants you to swap it then go for it, if the buyer wants it origional then leave it.

joz350 · December 13, 2009 2:19PM

I can see a problem if a guy has, say a MS69 Buffalo 1/4 and sees raw coins going for more, cracks it out, slips it in a capsule and sells it as raw.

If you are improving the set I don't see an issue although but if I was selling I would be sure to include ALL the coins in the package. Sort of the best of both worlds for the buyer and I expect the reward would be a strong sale.

jsf · December 13, 2009 2:23PM

the Treasure Hunter was selling 3-coin anniversary silver eagle "sets" on TV the other day. All three coins had wildly different serial numbers. Some set. Switcheroos occur every day, why start worrying now?

ajia · December 13, 2009 2:26PM

As long as you did not touch the coin in a manner that might contaminate it with oils, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I guess the question would be what would happen if the half was somehow contaminated & turned on the buyer?

How would they know?

I presume you are thinking of selling?
Maybe tell the (prospective) buyer that the half has a spot on the reverse, but that you would gladly replace it with a spotless example?

TwoSides2aCoin · December 13, 2009 2:26PM

The only issue is that you have a problem with a coin.
I don't see where ethics come into play here. Who could possibly mind getting the better coin ?

thatboyaintright · December 13, 2009 2:39PM

"The only issue`is that you have a problem with a coin.
I don't see where ethics come into play here. Who could possibly mind getting the better coin ? "

My thoughts exactly. I have no intention of selling it in the near future, but if I eventually do sell, I want to be acble to still call it an EA-7, 3 coin bald eagle set with a production of 25000 and not feeling like I'm deceiving anyone.

Thanks

NitroCruiser · December 13, 2009 2:44PM

Just like the Lincoln Coins and Chronicles sets... the buyer is paying for the limited edition packaging. As long as you are not passing it as a Mint sealed set (but then how would you know one coin had an issue?). It isn't like the buy can send it in to be graded as a limited addition set anyway. They are buying it for the packaging and you are improving the appearance. As long as the transfer is handled competently, I don't see a problem, unless the buyer is hoping for a spotted egg.

edit for improper word usage (addition - edition).

Kablemodem · December 13, 2009 4:52PM

The mintage of the coins in the set was not limited to 25,000. The packaging combination was limited to 25,000. There is no ethical issue here as long as the coins you show for sale are the coins the buyer receives.

Walmann · December 14, 2009 12:25AM

For some ethics is a minor or non-issue period.

I'm happy that ethics weigh into your considerations.

In this case any potential buyer would be happy with the nicer clad half. Offer any buyer with the choice of the ugly original in set piece, and the nicer condition proof if the issue concerns you.
I would bet the buyer would take the nicer coin and leave you with the ugly hard to sell proof.

With a set such as this ,IMO, which coins the Mint selected to place in them was purely chance.

RYK · December 14, 2009 12:36AM

I see no problem here.

Trime · December 14, 2009 12:39AM

Ain't no such thing as minor ethics.
You got it or you d'nt.

ponderit · December 14, 2009 12:43AM

No problems here for me either. The nicer coin you have could
just have easily ended up in the set instead of the piece that actually
did, since the packaging is the only thing that distinguishes these
coins. I bought one of these sets when the mint issued them and
never have opened it.

19Lyds · December 14, 2009 1:08AM

<< <i>The mintage of the coins in the set was not limited to 25,000. The packaging combination was limited to 25,000. There is no ethical issue here as long as the coins you show for sale are the coins the buyer receives. >>

Ditto!

There is no ethical issue here.

ricko · December 14, 2009 1:12AM

There is no issue here... you are replacing the coin with a better coin from the same mintage. It is the packaging that is special. Cheers, RickO

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