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Currency guy with a few coin questions

First off i'm mainly a currency collector. I took my 6yr old boy to a local coin/currency show with me about a month ago and have him interested in putting together a collection of pennies in my old blue Whitman penny books from when I was a kid. My childhood intrest in collecting coins is starting to come back. I am thinking about starting a collection of U.S. mint proof sets so I have something to collect with him. When I was a kid I put my penny collection into the little white 2 by 2 holders and into plastic pages so I could look through them easily. I was curious if this is a good way to display coins or if it would be better to just leave them in their original plastic packages. I was thinking that I could take them all out and get 5 different books to put each different coin into seperate books to display. Would this be a good idea?

Also i've been reading a little bit about toning and Cameo coins, ect.... on this forum. I'm specifically interested in how a proof coin can be a cameo coin when other proof coins are not. If the coins are made the same way how can one come out as a cameo proof and another like coin come out as a non cameo coin?
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  • First welocme.
    If you decide on proof sets keep them in their respective packaging.
    Cameo coins are produced by new dies as the die gets worn the cameo effect is lost.
    Hope this helps.
    Ray
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To add, I think the older, pre-1970ish coins are much tougher to find as cameos, as no special attempt was made to produce them with that effect. The more modern issues I believe the proof dies are acid treated or something, to enhance and sustain the cameo effect on most of the coins produced.

    Not sure how to answer your question about displaying Lincoln cents - I guess whatever appeals to you. I think that if you want to keep original red coins in red condition, the individual storage in non-PVC 2X2 holders is a good idea. For common date circs, the Whitman folders are fine.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The purpose of a hobby is to have fun.... all to many people in coin collecting seem to believe it is about the money/profit. If you are collecting for profit, likely coins are not the best venue, unless you are going for high end rare coins. If it is for the enjoyment of coin designs, sets and the fun of collecting.. display them in the manner that gives you the most pleasure. Cheers, RickO


  • << <i>Not sure how to answer your question about displaying Lincoln cents - I guess whatever appeals to you. I think that if you want to keep original red coins in red condition, the individual storage in non-PVC 2X2 holders is a good idea. For common date circs, the Whitman folders are fine. >>



    As far as the lincoln cents are concerned the Whitman folders are just being used for my 6yr old sons collection of what we can pull out of pocket change for him, nothing serious. I still had those folders from when I was about 10yrs old. My collection from that time in my life isn't anything special as a 10yr old doesn't have much money to spend on a coin collection.





    << <i>The purpose of a hobby is to have fun.... all to many people in coin collecting seem to believe it is about the money/profit. If you are collecting for profit, likely coins are not the best venue, unless you are going for high end rare coins. If it is for the enjoyment of coin designs, sets and the fun of collecting.. display them in the manner that gives you the most pleasure. Cheers, RickO >>



    My collection will not consist of anything high end most likely. It will be a "just for fun" collection for now. Which is why I think i've dedided to pick up some proof coins to start out with. I'd like to have some nice examples where you can see the designs well. I'm not really all that interested in toned coins as of right now or anything special. I do like the way that the Cameo coins look though. The reason I was asking about what is a descent way to store them is because I don't want to accidently ruin them. While i'm not collecting to make a profit, at the same time i'm also not looking to collect some coins just to ruin them by the way I store them. When I was young and collecting mostly pennies I put them all in the white 2/2 holders but wasn't sure if that would be a good way to store coins that are a little more expensive than a few cents here and there. I'm probably not going to be buying any graded coins or sending any in to be graded. I was just thinking that I could get about 5 books with the 2 by 2 square holders and sort them that way. I thought i'd buy a large lot of mint proof sets off ebay, break them all out of the mint holders and store them in the 2/2 holders in the books. Then I could have one for pennies, nickels, dimes, ect.....and have what would appear to be a very nice of each type because they would all be nice shiny proof coins and relatively inexpensive. I just wasn't sure whether or not the 2/2 holders are a good idea for storage since I haven't had much coin experience since I was young.

    On a side note, i've always liked the design of the franklin halves. Would it be touch to put together a nice proof set of those?
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  • Dont use 2X2 's for Proof coins. I would suggest airtite holders. I also like Proof Franklins and am just one coin (1950) away from the complete set. All slabbed, NGC and PCGS.
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    I would suggest leaving them in original mint packaging, but then again, modern Proof sets are cheap enough and not likely to go up in value, so it's really no biggie to take them out. (Many Proof sets have been broken up anyway or at least looked at for the best coins.) You can find lots of Proof coins with out buying a whole set.

    The next best is 2X2 cardboard flips. ( I've have Proof coins stored this way for 30+ years)
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,720 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 X 2's aren't really the best for long term storage but they are convenient
    and if you take precautions they can serve for a quarter century or so. I
    wouldn't put expensive coins in them especially proofs but coins up to 50
    or 100 dollars should usually be fine. They need to be stored well which
    means dry conditions. The plastic pages probably do help a little.

    Avoid touching the coins you put into sleeves. Avoid dust and debris be-
    ing enclosed with them. If coins appear to have any green or slime on
    them you may as well take it off first with acetone. The coin might look
    bad afterward but it won't help to leave it.

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  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Ricko...collecting is fun and not an investment. Although coins do tend to hold value beyond the collection aspect.

    I have folders and albums and other containers including GSA Morgans and slabbed coins.

    I derive great joy from plunking circulated coin change into album and folder slots. I currently have 5 cent-folders that I keep current from circulation as well as two Nickel and two Dime folders. I don't have any quarter folders but I have been trying to assemble five Statehood quarter sets by date/mm.

    The folders are nostalgic for me and are a great challenge trying to fill the holes, even though in 20 years these coins will all display significant toning from the storage media.

    If you want to buy Mint and Proof sets of current circulating series for your collection, NOT investment, and if you also want to preserve the "condition", then consider for storage Intercept Shield albums. These are "museum-quality" storage and will preserve the Mint and Uncirculated condition of the coins that you insert.

    I prefer to have Mint Unc. and Proof coins in my Intercept Shield albums as well as having a complete OGP set from the Mint, so each year I purchase two Mint and Proof sets from the Mint. One set gets disassembled and insterted into my intercept shield albums, whilst the other set is retained in the original gov't. packaging.

    There're lots of ways to enjoy this hobby. So seek out the various ways that others enjoy and chart your own course for your and your children to pursue.

    Cheers!



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  • What is a good site to check out for coin collecting supplies? Or does everyone just pick up all that kinda stuff from the local coin store? I think I might just start with a proof set of the franklins to get my feet wet. I've always liked the type and i'm going to go with a proof set because I like shiny coins. I was wondering about storage because i'm not a big fan of toned coins and I don't want to ruin that by using the wrong storage technique. That said i'd like to be able to look through them easier than having stacks of large individual containers such as the grading company holders.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,720 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What is a good site to check out for coin collecting supplies? Or does everyone just pick up all that kinda stuff from the local coin store? I think I might just start with a proof set of the franklins to get my feet wet. I've always liked the type and i'm going to go with a proof set because I like shiny coins. I was wondering about storage because i'm not a big fan of toned coins and I don't want to ruin that by using the wrong storage technique. That said i'd like to be able to look through them easier than having stacks of large individual containers such as the grading company holders. >>




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  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    Check out Wizard Coin Supply

    Also check out STONE's sig line Link for lot's of other numismatic links!
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  • Thanks for the help again guys!
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