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1921 Peace $1 with Dreadlocks?

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Besides being polished with silver paste to death this 21 Peace $1 is struck like a MOOSE. But the hair details just do not look right to me as it's struck better then a 21 Matte or Satin Proof.

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  • PeacemanPeaceman Posts: 5,098
    Looks like a "Hsturn" coin on Ebay...
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I've never seen one quite like that... Is it tooled to have more hair detail?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've never seen one quite like that... Is it tooled to have more hair detail? >>



    Looks like it had extensions added or a slight weave image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like a "Hsturn" coin on Ebay... >>



    Yes that it is! image
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,516 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like a "Hsturn" coin on Ebay... >>



    more like the fleur de coin guy
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    It looks like a Proof Striking - its hammered !!
    Also looks played with - post mint damage-Dreadlocks ? LOL

    I also have been looking for a fully struck 1921 Peace -
    as it was my Mom's birthyear - and I want a special coin.
    As we know, 99.9% of these 1921s' are mush on the hair details... image
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  • tbarrecatbarreca Posts: 299 ✭
    I don't think I've ever seen a more strongly struck 21-P, including the reverse. I don't see how it could have been tooled, which involves taking some metal off or moving it around. Tooling doesn't add metal.
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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Any possibility it's a fake?
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lil photoshop enhancement...

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any possibility it's a fake? >>



    I was thinking that might also be a possibility, but looks more like it was left to soak in Rogaine Hair Regrowth Formula image
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's been worked...or photo-shopped. I've had a dozen of these in various states, including a business strike on proof dies (below). The hair details are unnatural for a '21.
    Lance.

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could it be a metal impurity running across the hair or a lamination there?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could it be a metal impurity running across the hair or a lamination there? >>



    I've seen 1921 Peace $1 with a lamination in this region.

    The most memorable was an example Anaconda had that was deep purple blue with a pink central lamination.

    This does not look like a lamination to me.
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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    Sure does look like a Satin Proof with an "Extra Hair" die break........image

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Herewith I'd like to attempt to introduce into the CU Forum Lexicon of Alphabet Soup Abbreviations™, "RFR," for "Run, Forrest, Run!"

    Looks like the tool that tooled this didn't seem to know where the rest of the hair should go, as it really doesn't match the satin proof on Heritage's site very well. Also, the lowest curl on the cheek and the one forward of it seem to have less definition than on the proof specimen. Too bad, as it was probably pretty well struck to begin with.

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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Looks like a "Hsturn" coin on Ebay...

    Yep, thats what I was thinking. It looks too good to be true as do most of the coins sold by this seller.
  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks tooled.
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like it had extensions added or a slight weave image >>












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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just looked up the seller...here.

    At least the look of all of his (gender assumption) dollars is the same! image

    It's hard to tell if it has been tooled from the images...nonetheless...danger, Will Robinson, danger!

    It never ceases to surprise me how coins like this sell for that money...oh, well.

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    .......when you said "dreadlocks" i immediately got a flash of this:

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  • PeacemanPeaceman Posts: 5,098
    This seller has sold thousands of "enhanced" coins. I dont even look at his stuff anymore. It's funny how I knew it was one of his coins... well, not really, all of his stuff is messed with. If you cover up the long hit as in this photo it looks normal to me.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh yuck Tahoe98... you added ugly to ugly.... there goes lunch. Cheers, RickO
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh yuck Tahoe98... you added ugly to ugly.... there goes lunch. Cheers, RickO >>




    .......image
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