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Submitted for your approval: the Lincoln Coin and Chronicles Set will be no big deal

For those of you that bough multiples witha mind toward flipping them, I recommend that you do so quickly because the time will come - and that right soon - when the premium these trade for will be negligible to the point of futility. On what evidence do I base this conclusion? I ordered a LCaC set FOUR full days after the mint released them and I received it Saturday. I watched people pay as much as $165 for these on this forum (I didn't even bother to check the insanity on eBay) before I decided to order one from the mint for less than $60. Still, I got it. It is in hand.

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Now, I realize that I'm probably pretty lucky. Enough credit cards had errors in processing that I got bumped up the list far enough to actually get one of these sets direct. My point is that I think it's a little crazy to pay a huge premium for a set when the mint hasn't even shipped all of them yet. What do you think?
"YOU SUCK!" Awarded by nankraut/renomedphys 6/13/13 - MadMarty dissents

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    dimplesdimples Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭
    I'd send it back. Lincoln is slightly rotated. image
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    well if there were 50,000 made, than there were 50,000 made which means it will be scarce regardless, if the mint made more than 50,000 and didnt bother to tell anyone, then they have alot of explaining to do!
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    << <i>I'd send it back. Lincoln is slightly rotated. image >>



    No kidding. That actually annoyed me slightly.
    "YOU SUCK!" Awarded by nankraut/renomedphys 6/13/13 - MadMarty dissents
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    JedPlanchetJedPlanchet Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    People overpay on eBay for products readily available from the Mint all the time, why should this be any different?

    Whatever you are, be a good one. ---- Abraham Lincoln
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Aw Man!!?!!

    You tryin to say that these AIN'T gonna hit $400 by Thanksgiving!?!?!? image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    Halfhunter06Halfhunter06 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭
    The price will probably be 75 dollars after all the hype is past.
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    << <i>People overpay on eBay for products readily available from the Mint all the time, why should this be any different? >>



    shhhhhhh !!!!

    i got two of these on flea-bay now ......image
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    << <i>well if there were 50,000 made, than there were 50,000 made which means it will be scarce regardless, if the mint made more than 50,000 and didnt bother to tell anyone, then they have alot of explaining to do! >>



    Thats exactly right , i cant see how recieving one late is going to affect anything.People are and have been just plucking numbers out of thin air as to what they might be worth.Time will tell.
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    ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everybody's got a theory don't they. It's gonna be a wait and see what happens situation. Not only that but unless you've got a couple to sell it really shouldn't matter...
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    << <i>The price will probably be 75 dollars after all the hype is past. >>



    25% doesn't sound to bad.
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    BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭
    I have one. I bought it to keep. The only way I would sell it is if it went way up.
    I'm fine with keeping it.
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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd send it back. Lincoln is slightly rotated. image >>




    image

    Lmao



    -Paul
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    The set is very nice but other than that, its loaded with commonly available coins with nothing really unique. The end result will be, how long will folks pay for the fancy packaging? How many folks really want to pay for that photograph of that copy of the gettysburg address which is difficult to read anyway?

    In all honesty, I think that this set will sell for less than issue in short order because current sales have solely been based upon the 50,000 production limitations and the hype that folks have associated with that limitation. Had there been something truely unique, such as a medal or special coin then the hype would have some validity but since there isn't, folks are going to figure it out and simply not pay a premium.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭


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    << <i>I'd send it back. Lincoln is slightly rotated. image >>



    No kidding. That actually annoyed me slightly. >>



    You know that you can take the capsule out and put it back any way you want, right? Just push on the bottom of the capsule.
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    thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a complete set, it will always garner a premium because of its relatively low mintage, but trying to forecast how big a premium is akin to guessing what the Dow Jones average will be next January, or even next week.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
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    I bought one and it belongs to the little lady in my sigline.
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    mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002


    << <i>The price will probably be 75 dollars after all the hype is past. >>




    that means I can clear a profit of 15.00 wooooo hoooooo
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    << <i>The set is very nice but other than that, its loaded with commonly available coins with nothing really unique. The end result will be, how long will folks pay for the fancy packaging? How many folks really want to pay for that photograph of that copy of the gettysburg address which is difficult to read anyway? In all honesty, I think that this set will sell for less than issue in short order because current sales have solely been based upon the 50,000 production limitations and the hype that folks have associated with that limitation. Had there been something truely unique, such as a medal or special coin then the hype would have some validity but since there isn't, folks are going to figure it out and simply not pay a premium. >>





    I don't agree. I have 5 lincoln proof dollars as well as 6 sets of lincoln 2009 proofs 4 to a lens. I bought the chronicles set just because Iiked it. It's not always about the money.

    In this case, who cares if the price drops to zero, I still like it. I'll sell the individual items I have.....I prefer to keep the Chroncile set. To each their own.
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>well if there were 50,000 made, than there were 50,000 made which means it will be scarce regardless, if the mint made more than 50,000 and didnt bother to tell anyone, then they have alot of explaining to do! >>



    2005 - 2006 ...this would be a hot item just like the 20th Anniv Gold and Silver sets..2009 ??? not likelyimage
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    I bought the Lincoln Chronicle set; in fact I bought few with the help of friends and family. This set is about the entire presentation and it is really beautiful. In fact I changed my mind decided to keep all of them. If the bay price goes up or down makes no difference for me. $60 a set from mint is truly a great deal.
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    seems like ebay prices are come down just a bit already.
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    stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    Has anybody figured out how to remove any of the coins from the holder so one can see the opposite side. I wanted to see what the reverse of the Lincoln dollar looked like and have not found a way to get it out of the case without using a knife and pair of scissors.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
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    DeloreanDelorean Posts: 484 ✭✭✭
    Again, If anyone wants to make a quick profit, I'm a buyin these "worthless sets" at $75 a pop...$15 dollars quick profit for ya!

    Chuck,

    Ever Onward
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    << <i>well if there were 50,000 made, than there were 50,000 made which means it will be scarce regardless, if the mint made more than 50,000 and didnt bother to tell anyone, then they have alot of explaining to do! >>



    No... there's 50,000 pieces of packaging made...

    The problem with this set is that no coin in that set is unique to that set... There's already what, 150,000 other Proof Lincoln Dollars out there? There's how many Proof Cent sets that have been sold? The premium in that set... is for the packaging...
    -George
    42/92
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>The price will probably be 75 dollars after all the hype is past. >>




    that means I can clear a profit of 15.00 wooooo hoooooo >>



    dont forget ebay and paypal fees image

    in the end it will probably be a loss when you factor in the free shipping
    people are coming to expect.

    WOO! a 3% loss! that feels more like coin collecting. image
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    To make money from ones coin collection

    is against "THE CODE OF COINS".image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
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    <<<<<Has anybody figured out how to remove any of the coins from the holder so one can see the opposite side. I wanted to see what the reverse of the Lincoln dollar looked like and have not found a way to get it out of the case without using a knife and pair of scissors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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    Do this. Press down on the bottom of the coin capsule at a location of 6:00. The top of the capsule will rise up and you can take the capsule out to look at the reverse of the coin. On the silver dollar, you might have to press a little harder to get the same result.

    Hope this helps you.
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    DeloreanDelorean Posts: 484 ✭✭✭
    <<<No... there's 50,000 pieces of packaging made...

    The problem with this set is that no coin in that set is unique to that set... There's already what, 150,000 other Proof Lincoln Dollars out there? There's how many Proof Cent sets that have been sold? The premium in that set... is for the packaging... >>>

    I dunno, lots of people said the same about the 8-8-08 Double Prosperity Set and I saw one on Ebay just yesterday going fer $2000, I think I paid about $1025 from the Mint?

    With the Mint it's all about the packaging....

    Chuck,

    Ever Onward
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    Ok The premium in that set... is for the packaging... Maybe not the coins. I am going to keep sealed from the mint and never open it . It has to be worth more in the future Right?
    Brian
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    I am going to keep sealed from the mint and never open it

    We are going to hold you to that........we will check back with you on dates of our choice. please have your records in order..image
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    7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    the set is worth 100 bucks anytime

    it was cheap at 60 bucks.

    I dont think they'll trade much below 100.

    did you intend to get rich off it - - - - no.......

    did you lose money on it - - - - no.............

    so no harm done....
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    << <i>seems like ebay prices are come down just a bit already. >>



    Oh yeah.The first sets to make it to Ebay sold for over $200.00.A few went for $250.00.A week later they were selling for $160-$175.Today,they aren't breaking $150. I think there may be another surge after the sets stop shipping from the mint.Then,I think they will settle into the $100-$120 range.Mine just arrived Saturday.Some are still arriving.
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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146


    << <i>The set is very nice but other than that, its loaded with commonly available coins with nothing really unique. The end result will be, how long will folks pay for the fancy packaging? How many folks really want to pay for that photograph of that copy of the gettysburg address which is difficult to read anyway?

    In all honesty, I think that this set will sell for less than issue in short order because current sales have solely been based upon the 50,000 production limitations and the hype that folks have associated with that limitation. Had there been something truely unique, such as a medal or special coin then the hype would have some validity but since there isn't, folks are going to figure it out and simply not pay a premium. >>


    I wouldn't bet money on this with the sheer number of Lincoln collectors out there, 50k sets is nothing.
    USAF vet 1951-59
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd send it back. Lincoln is slightly rotated. image >>



    That was his "inquiring" look!

    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My handling of this set has nothing whatsoever to do with coin collecting. I would have done the same if it were beanie babies or widgets. I purchased it to flip, did so, sent the entire proceeds (not just the profit) to the Salvation Army's Thanksgiving drive, and now do not care what happens to value of it. If the set is $400 by Thanksgiving and $1000 by Christmas, I will have no regrets whatsoever.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think this set is destined to be a significant part of numismatic history.

    I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.

    Should I open it or leave it unopened?

    edited to add "significant"

    Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the
    birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will
    precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you
    come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you
    who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in
    poverty and it is you who are that poverty."--- Gospel of Thomas (Lamdin translation)

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    WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    " the Lincoln Coin and Chronicles Set will be no big deal"

    This is how most of the public feels about collecting coins in general.

    Coins just metals packaged in different designs.

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