Post an old Anacs photo certificate........
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Here is one, and I have another on the way from the Bay.
Here is the coin now....
Here is the coin now....
Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
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Nice pull, it only took 22 years for it to upgrade!
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<< <i>Do these certificates have any value? I've got a bunch from the early 1980's. >>
I don't know. Do you have the coins that went with them? Is so, post'm.
JJ
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<< <i>Do these certificates have any value? I've got a bunch from the early 1980's. >>
I don't know. Do you have the coins that went with them? Is so, post'm.
JJ >>
Yes, I still have the coins--about 50 US gold coins. They coins are currently slabbed but I saved the certificates. Don't do photography so I can't post any pics. What's interesting is the early certificates had extremely high resolution B&W pics. Any microscopic blemish on the coin would appear on the photo on the certificate. That way you knew the cerificate went with the coin and that someone didn't substitute another similar coin. The later certificates had color pics and resolution wasn't as sharp.
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<< <i>Do these certificates have any value? >>
Sure do! I am paying $25 each for them.
NOT!!!
Probably not worth anything even to the paper recycler, due to the photo-finish.
They may have some sentimental value to Captain Henway though!
On the other hand, he probably already has a trunk full of them in his attic!!
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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If you can't see it, it reads, "I think there's some chance this TPG idea might catch on" >>
Wow, what a beauty. Did you notice who it was registered to? David Hall. I wonder?
<< <i>OPA, that's "the" David Hall who signed it for him - no need to wonder. >>
Thanks for the info.
<< <i>Do these certificates have any value? I've got a bunch from the early 1980's. >>
Not in themselves, however, many collectors will pay up for coins that they could be verified as original and stable from 20 years ago. So many coins have been messed with, these old photos of stable coins are proof positive that your coins are totally original (or at least 20 years worth or original). Many dealers probably couldn't care less, and a good percentage would toss the paperwork if offered to them.
I'll look in the photo archives when I get home and see if I can find it.
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Is this a known RPD?
JJ
Heres my favorite of the two I own.This is a GSA Morgan,still in the original GSA holder.I picked this
one up on ebay several years ago,didn't pay any premium for it,but its in my keeper box now!
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Here is the coin with Flaw today.
"A nice group of certificates! These are getting harder to find all the time. Are the certificates worth anything? Well to a collector yes of course. I am always in the market for the Transfer Certificates and the first generation certificates. I don't understand why the first generation certificates are so scarce. They were in use for four years, longer than any of the other types, but I've only seen four examples, two of which I own, since I started gathering the information for the book. There were also contemporary reports of counterfeit ANACS certificates, but I do not know which generation(s) were faked, and I have never seen one. I would like to add one of those to my collection, if they really do exist. I suspect the certificates probably were not faked but real ones were being used to sell coins different than the ones pictured on them. I do know that there was a triving business in buying and selling the certificates back then without the coin and then the certificate would be used to sell either a lower grade coin or even a counterfeit. And it was successful because evn back then people bought the holder (certificate) and not the coin. If they asked for a 14-D cent in VF and they were given a coin and an ANACS certificate for a 14-D in VF they went away happy and never even compared the coin to the photo.
For general information
Watersport has a third generation certificate (ANACS 3) used from 1978 to 1981
Airplanenut and Kranky have fourth generation certificates (ANACS 4) used 1981 to 1983. Kranky's is the image used in the book for the variety.
Relicancoin has a sixth generation (ANACS 6) used from late 1983 to late 1985
Mepot has an ANACS 7 used Dec 85 to Dec 86
Kennewickman, CoinJP, Carlwohlforth, and Robec Have either an ANACS 9 or 10 I can't tell for sure which though I strongly suspect Kennewickman's is a 10 and the others probably are as well. ANACS 9 seems to be very scarce to rare. The only difference between them is 9 used B&W photos and 10 used color. the problem is the white silver coins look almost the same in B&W or color. (Ignore the red lamp of knowledge logo. It's red on both types. ANACS was supposed to go to color images in Jan 1987, but they ha some difficulties and the B&W images ran over briefly. Exactly how long I do not know because they also stopped dating the certificates in Jan of 87.
IRCWCoins definitely has an ANACS 10 used from very early 1987 until they switched to slabs in late 1989.
For the missing ones"
ANACS 1 used April 1972 to about Aug 1976
ANACS 2 used Sept 1976 to Dec 1978
ANACS 5 Used in 1983 only This one was short lived. ANACS 4 ran over into 83 and ANACS 6 started in the latter part of the year.
ANACS 5T this is a Transfer Certificate. ANACS registered the coin to a particular owner. If the coin was sold the buyer could return the certificate and a fee, and a new certificate with the new owers name would be issued. The new certificate would still have the original date of certification, but in the upper left corner it would also have the date the registration was transfered. All certificates from 1 through 8 could have this done, but since for the most part no one really cared about the registration only a tiny fraction of the certificatewere ever returned for transfer. So far I have seen exactly five of them an ANACS 4T, two 5T, and 3 6T certificates. I would dearly like to see transfer certificates for 2, 3, 7, and 8.
ANACS 8 apparently very scarce to rare. Used in Dec of 1986 only. I have only seen this single specimen. Te latest ANACS 7 I've seen was dated 12/4/86, and ANACS 9 began the first week of Jan 87. So ANACS 8 was only in production for maybe 15 to 20 days.
JJ
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and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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"The Capital Plastic holder designed to hold both the coin and the certificate was not from ANACS. They were strickly aftermarket. I have two different types.
Bushmaster, your "copycat" is an NCI 2 the second generation of NCI a grading firm started by Herman Halprin and involving some of the other principles at Heritage. It was even located in the same building, but Heritage disclaims any connection between Heritage the company and NCI. I can't say what the exact dates of issue for this certificate was. The closest I can state is from some time in 1985 to the end of Jan 1987. It is very difficult to determine issue periods for the NCI certificates because they used eight different ones between Dec of 1984 when the began operations and when they closed down around 1991, and at least six of them were in use at the same time and have overlapping /latest dates on the certificates.
NCI was considered to be the joke of the certification services at the time holding the position that ACG later dropped into once NCI folded."
Captain Henway, can you shed any light on this style of photo-cert?
*and before you ask: no, we dont have the coin that goes with this cert (a nice, high grade 1884-S Morgan!)
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FWIW, the D.C. certificates come with prefix letters A, B or C. They are not sequential, having been issued simultaneously. In those pre-computer days, incoming mail was logged in by hand into ledger books and assigned a number. Because the person sending out mail could not use the book if somebody else was logging stuff in, they used three books and rotated them. Thus on Monday they might be logging in A numbers, Tuesday B's, Wednesday C's and Thursday back to A's.
anyone have any ANA/ANACS older than '75?
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<< <i>thanks Tom
anyone have any ANA/ANACS older than '75? >>
1976 is my oldest. This post was made, back when I first started collecting them. I think I have close to 60 different type coins with them now.
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