How much do you think this ball will go for?
landon14
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I was curious if anyone would like to speculate just how much this ball is worth and what it might sell for: Mickey Mantle rookie sig
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Hmm. Now that wouldn't be you would it?
Jeff
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<< <i>I was curious if anyone would like to speculate just how much this ball is worth and what it might sell for: Mickey Mantle rookie sig >>
this is a ball that I would have had authenticated prior to selling it
Next, some will consider your post as SPAM since you are the seller of the ball.
I question why you didn't do your homework 1st, before listing. I think you're leaving a lot of money on the table if the ball and sigs are legit. A lot of early Mantle sigs were done by "ghost signers".
Why didn't you have the ball graded yourself or at least have a PSA/DNA Quick Opinion done.
Whenever I read auctions that guarantee money back if the sigs are proven not to be authentic, I get the feeling that the seller is taking a chance that someone will buy the item with no intentions of having it professionally graded. That type of buyer usually won't spend the big bucks.
My guess would be that you'll wind up getting under $100 for the ball. If authenticated, maybe 3-4x that.
Good luck,
PoppaJ
<< <i>pretty harsh accusation, Jeff - do you have any facts to back that up?
Well now that I look at it the two ids are slightly different so maybe I jumped the shark again.
Jeff
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Ralph
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They are fairly common for the era.
A good COA makes it easy to sell for good $$
A selected few people tend to hate when somebody makes a profit, but don't worry, there are pleanty of great people on these boards...
Me personally, I wouldn't put a nice ball like that on ebay.
Good luck!
<< <i>Thank you all for the input. I did not try to hide the fact that I was the seller, I just wanted some opinions. >>
Technically true but you didn't disclose it either.
<< <i>I was curious if anyone would like to speculate just how much this ball is worth and what it might sell for: Mickey Mantle rookie sig >>
Just sayin..
Dammit Jim, I'm a rocket surgeon, not a card grader!
Sorry for being absolutely no help whatsoever to this fine thread. Couldn't help myself.
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I agree, authenticate.
EB22, I disagree about ebay. They get the most traffic.
<< <i>....why insult the intelligence of the forum users by stating the obvious? >>
You have no idea of stowns ability to insult intelligence. I seriously doubt he'll be insulting you.
<< <i> I seriously doubt he'll be insulting you. >>
Wow.......was that a dig?
<< <i>Yes of course! Because it's soooo unlikely that someone would let the pen run over the stitching and its also soooo unlikely that a pen would be passed around with a ball for signing! I happen to know the gentleman who collected these signatures....I'm not worried one bit about this ball being stamped or having a forgery. >>
Sorry that you feel insulted. Ive seen lots of vintage signed baseballs both real and stamped. First, there is no pen "mishaps" over the stitches. Second, it is on a generic baseball which was very common for vintage stamped baseballs.
Many of us here have heard the stories "I know this...." and unfortunately, too often those stories are fabricated to convince the unsuspected to believe its real.
Im not trying to diss you. Believe me, I have had fake signatures before that broke my heart too. All part of the process and all part of being in this hobby.
Sure he's been around since before the microbs, and ya he knows his chit.
Maybe he's a fan of the all time winningest team... and it's good to be the king.
But I wanna be Chief.
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<< <i> I seriously doubt he'll be insulting you. >>
Wow.......was that a dig? >>
If you're seriously asking... the answer is no, it's just fact.
If your question was riddled with sarcasm, then yes. It was a dig, and a poor one at that.
Awe... many thanks. Hey did I say welcome to the boards?
Welcome
Sorry, I lost my smiley with the flower.
Or settle for much less than it's worth. Providing it's authentic.
With regard to your ball. The fading seems to come and go, so I'm at a complete loss. But my opinion is that it was passed around with an old pen. And it looks good to me.
Having it authenticated could realize the true greatness with the final bid.
<< <i> Although I have no doubt to the authenticity of each and every signature I also admit I don't know $#!t about this subject which is why I am offering a 30 day money back guarantee, as I surely don't want to rip anybody off either! >>
Although this ball is not "authenticated" by a credited signature authority, I will back up its authenticity by offering a 10 day (from the time the ball arrives to you) money back guarantee (less shipping) if you purchase this ball and find it to be unauthentic by a reputable authenticating company.
10 days is seriously not enough time. I would never buy a baseball like that with poor photos and a 10 day return. $150 authentication fee and 20 day return time. There's no guarantee of an answer within your 10 days. Paying an extra $50 makes it a 5 day answer from the day they they receive it, so you would have a chance if you express it there, no weekends happen along the way, and they enter it into the system the day it arrives.
If it's legit I agree that you're costing yourself money. The only dissenting opinion seems to be Gio.
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<< <i>I also agree it is stamped. I could see a signer run out of space and end on the stitches, but why would someone start on the stitching .... UNLESS it was a bad stamp job....JMHO >>
I must say I am at a bit of a loss once again. So was there 19 seperate stamps, or just six?
Just a question. If you don't know crap about this subject, how can you be confident in the signatures?
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Ralph
<< <i>Just a question. If you don't know crap about this subject, how can you be confident in the signatures? >>
I think he has confidence in the person who gave the ball to him.
The sigs look sketchy but hopefully it works out for you. Personally if I were you; I would end the auction, have it authenticated, and then put it back on the block. If it comes back fake, then it is what it is. If it comes back legit, you just increased the potential sales price several fold.
<< <i>I am inclined to agree with the idea that the ball is stamped. I see at least 7 sigs that run over the stitches and not once do you see a break in the pen stroke. >>
Definitely not stamped
<< <i>Maybe not, but it wouldn't take a rocket surgeon to figure it out within seconds....why insult the intelligence of the forum users by stating the obvious? >>
What the heck is a rocket surgeon? The typical phrase is, "rocket scientist."
With regard to the ball, it appears to be a stamped edition. Still collectible and desirable, but certainly a case where you, as the seller, armed with the feedback of those more knowledgeable than you, appear to be allowing the buyer to assume the risk to find out that you may have misrepresented the ball as being authentic.
Given your "guarantee," the buyer having the item authenticated will be out approximately $200 (fees, shipping for authentication and return shipping to the seller) in the event that the ball is not authentic.
The tone of your comments and snide remarks suggest you find a better way to make your truck payment because this ball is going to end up being a big headache for you and will probably result in a PayPal charge back.
The best advice that I can offer is that you end the auction, have the ball authenticated on your dime and then offer it up again if it is deemed authentic. If, as you claim, the ball is authentic, you'll be rewarded with a higher closing price and should recover your authentication fees and then some versus the path you are currently taking.
I don't think it's stamped, though
I don't see sigs crossing over into stitches.
Is it legit? I have no idea.
Steve
What the heck is a rocket surgeon? The typical phrase is, "rocket scientist."
lol
Steve
<< <i>What the heck is a rocket surgeon? >>
C'mon people...it was a joke!
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<< <i>What the heck is a rocket surgeon? >>
C'mon people...it was a joke!
A joke or misspoken and a convenient cover?
Not snide? Then you may need to reevaluate how you type and assign nicknames to those that respond.
<< <i>I don't think it's stamped either.
I don't see sigs crossing over into stitches.
Is it legit? I have no idea.
Steve >>
Steve:
The concern is that several sigs "run over" the stitching. Others "begin" in the stitching. Both are uncommon on signed balls without a typical "jump" or "stagger" in the flow of the signature. Note specifically Allie Reynolds and Phil Rizzuto...
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<< <i>Just a question. If you don't know crap about this subject, how can you be confident in the signatures? >>
I think he has confidence in the person who gave the ball to him.
The sigs look sketchy but hopefully it works out for you. Personally if I were you; I would end the auction, have it authenticated, and then put it back on the block. If it comes back fake, then it is what it is. If it comes back legit, you just increased the potential sales price several fold. >>
If you had such "confidence" that the sigs are genuine, why haven't you by now taken this sound advice?
I like that rocket surgeon line, I'm going to start using it
<< <i>A joke or misspoken and a convenient cover? >>
It was a joke, good God I've heard that for years...where have you been?
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Not snide? Then you may need to reevaluate how you type and assign nicknames to those that respond. >>
Calling someone "Chief" is somehow insulting ?? You need to chill out and relax a little.