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2 PCGS MS68 SBAs coming up on Teletrade

1980 PCGS MS68 SBA Pop 2

PCGS 1999 P MS68 SBA Pop 6

Wonder what the 1980 will go for?
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    The 1980-P is a nice one
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    lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    I don't know the values of high grade SBA's...
    what should they go for?
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    The 1880 appears to have a rub on the forehead

    as well as some flat areas in the hair.Somewhat

    modest luster. Not that thrilled with the 99 either

    at that rarefied grade.
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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe both coins have been listed before on TeleTrade and not sold because of not meeting the reserve as I was a bidder on both of them.

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    But I wasn't that high of a bidder image
    GrandAm :)
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1980 PCGS MS68 SBA Pop 2

    PCGS 1999 P MS68 SBA Pop 6

    Wonder what the 1980 will go for? >>



    Are these your coins?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    I don't know the series that well, but they look overgraded IMHO!

    now that's modern crap image
    "It is what it is."
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    I dont know. I see lots of ticks on both coins. MS68? Dont think so. Not my series but a 68 should be pretty close to perfect and those coins are not by a long shot.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I would only grade those coins as MS-66 at best.

    The bid should then be priced at that level.

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    PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would only grade those coins as MS-66 at best.

    The bid should then be priced at that level. >>




    I like it image
    "It is what it is."
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Each collector always must make their own

    evaluation and then act upon that opinion.image
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    bronze6827bronze6827 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭
    Both overgraded.

    I wouldn't give either of them more than MS67.
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    These coins prove how again how inconsistent TPG is.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Grading, has always tended to reflect, what the market will bear.

    Perhaps we do not agree, but that is the real world we are talking

    about. It is, what it is. The really top, world class collections, always

    reflect the collectors high standards for the coin and the grade, regardless

    what the market place may dictate. This care and attention to details, always

    pays off, when the collection comes up for auction or sale.
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    mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭
    Not my coins but I'd like to have them. I don't think they're overgraded based on apparent marks as far as luster goes you can't tell from those photos.
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But the 1980 is in an old green holder, sure that means it may be an MS69, no???? image

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    These have been on TT for quite a while. The ms68 79-s apparently did sell for $5000 2 months ago. The 79-s and 80-p were auctioned by Heritage a year ago and realized much lower prices (you can view their photos for a photography comparison with TT). I added an ms67 79-p Wide Rim to my set this year and am on pace to tie for the #2 registry set (I have 81-p in ms67 too). I would love to have these ms68's but only if they are true ms68s. I would not buy from TT knowing their awful return privilege. I am collecting the finest coins and not the finest slab numbers.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    tough crowd!
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    tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it is the pics but I just purchased a 1999 today that looks nicer than that one. And mine was $1.50
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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry.but I can't get excited about some of this modern high grade stuff!
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    It does not look like either coin met reserves.....again.
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would only grade those coins as MS-66 at best.

    The bid should then be priced at that level. >>




    I have owned 6 NGC MS66 I won from TT and these are a lot nicer than the MS 66's I won. I sold 4 of them a few years back, a they sold for between $225 and up to around $300. Mine were all 1981's.
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    bronze6827bronze6827 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭
    I would not buy from TT knowing their awful return privilege.

    ????????????

    TT has about the easiset return policy out there. You don't need a reason. Call them up, find out whose attention to send it to, mark return on the packing slip and put it in the mail.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    While returns are relatively easy,

    there is a pretty hefty restocking fee.
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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    This new avatar shows promise:




    I just got my TT winnings!
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    Now I have to send them back.
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    << <i>I would only grade those coins as MS-66 at best.

    The bid should then be priced at that level. >>



    Wow grading high grade coins from teletrade pics, interesting.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    When you bid on Teletrade, you must grade from pictures.

    It is no longer a game, it is a necessity. Nothing is ever as good,

    as the human eye holding the actual coin. But, we all do the best

    we can, under the circumstances we find ourselves in.

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    << <i>When you bid on Teletrade, you must grade from pictures.

    It is no longer a game, it is a necessity. Nothing is ever as good,

    as the human eye holding the actual coin. But, we all do the best

    we can, under the circumstances we find ourselves in. >>



    I was being sarcastic
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I would only grade those coins as MS-66 at best.

    The bid should then be priced at that level. >>



    Wow grading high grade coins from teletrade pics, interesting. >>






    Are you being sarcastic, funny or merely confused?
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    Its tough to evaluate luster from photos but you can certainly see marks and those coins have a lot of them. Doesnt PCGS have standards for the different MS levels? If they do how can these coins be 68?
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    << <i>I would not buy from TT knowing their awful return privilege.

    ????????????

    TT has about the easiset return policy out there. You don't need a reason. Call them up, find out whose attention to send it to, mark return on the packing slip and put it in the mail. >>



    Problem is, I'm not sure that returns are "free"
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    I've looked thru many of SBA Dollars and I hope these look better in hand than the pix....image
    ......Larry........image
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've looked thru many of SBA Dollars and I hope these look better in hand than the pix....image >>



    I don't believe you'd have to look at even 100 1980 mint sets to find a better '80-P. It
    shouldn't take many more than a 100 sets to find a better '80-S.

    This one might not even be a mint set coin considering the strike deficiencies.

    I hate to trash other peoples' coins but am very unimpressed by this one.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    Iv'e seen many rolls from banks that were passed into circulation by me with luster and minor nicks that were probably equal or close to those...It's hard to judge by pictures..
    ......Larry........image
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Iv'e seen many rolls from banks that were passed into circulation by me with luster and minor nicks that were probably equal or close to those...It's hard to judge by pictures.. >>




    From the picture it's a little below what I'd bother to save. I'm assuming the luster is good.

    In its defence though I go more with strike quality than being clean and this one is clean enough to be a keeper.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    SBA's were considered dogs.The prices on these have been suprisingly spiking.I had lost some interest in them but kept ane eye on them from time to time.I liked them origanally....!!!
    ......Larry........image
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>SBA's were considered dogs.The prices on these have been suprisingly spiking.I had lost some interest in them but kept ane eye on them from time to time.I liked them origanally....!!! >>




    I liked them at first when I thought they were going to circulate.

    I lost a lot of interest when that failed to materialize. They're fun to look for in nice shape though
    since some (like the '81-S) are among the lowest quality of all moderns.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.

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