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CSA Grading??

CardsForMSCardsForMS Posts: 255
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has anyone heard of CSA grading? what is the rep they have

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    dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    Last I heard they were slabbing cards out of the owners Mom's basement...
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    jcdcubsjcdcubs Posts: 341
    how about GMA grading? $1.50 per card!!!!!!
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    dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭


    << <i>how about GMA grading? $1.50 per card!!!!!! >>



    Yup, They even have grade your own cards service...you just tell them the grades for each card and they will slab em and even make labels with a company name.
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    It is pretty safe to just stick with PSA.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    Yup, They even have grade your own cards service...you just tell them the grades for each card and they will slab em and even make labels with a company name

    that would be cool, send in a card ripped in half and taped back together and get a 10, if u ever see r.s.c-thats me, you can figure out what it staads forimage
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    PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818 ✭
    Just curious.... what's the approximate value of the cards that
    you're wanting to get graded?

    PoppaJ
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312
    the only question I have, is if its safe to assume they are a nickel & dime company, then where do they get their slabs from ? It DOES look like a typical (but different designed) slab, and I'm sure it cost money to have them made. Is there a company out there that can design a graded slab for "Joe Shmo" collector, and make it affordable ?

    I wouldnt mind creating my own grading company, just for my personal collection ... HGG (Hockey Guy Grading) :-)
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    KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I wouldnt mind creating my own grading company, just for my personal collection ... HGG (Hockey Guy Grading) :-) >>


    sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! image
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312


    << <i>sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! image >>



    Dont I wish

    Seriously though. Maybe I'm just behind the times (still love my tapes), but where do these guys order up their slabs from, and eqipment to seal them ?

    I would really like to be able to do that, just for my own collection
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    lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    CSA = Card Scam Artist
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    KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    I wonder how well that would do.. sending your cards in just to have nicely slabbed with a good looking flip and no grading done..
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    dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! image >>



    Dont I wish

    Seriously though. Maybe I'm just behind the times (still love my tapes), but where do these guys order up their slabs from, and eqipment to seal them ?

    I would really like to be able to do that, just for my own collection >>



    scroll down they have pricing for slabs and blank flips and will set you up with a sealing machine

    LINK>>
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312
    I was thinking of a case / slab that you can buy that looks and acts very much like a graded card slab. Put the card & label in, snap on the top, and it's sealed by some inner prongs "thingy a ma jiggies". The only way to get the card out, is to snap it apart, breaking the prongs. Just an idea for someone else to use and make lots of money, because I'm too much of a lazy azzz to develope it myself.


    I should have been designing slabs at GM, instead of stupid Consoles & IP's
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! image >>



    Dont I wish

    Seriously though. Maybe I'm just behind the times (still love my tapes), but where do these guys order up their slabs from, and eqipment to seal them ?

    I would really like to be able to do that, just for my own collection >>



    scroll down they have pricing for slabs and blank flips and will set you up with a sealing machine

    LINK>> >>



    maybe we can do a "Group Break" for the $10,000 - $25,000 machine
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    only 10 to 25 grand?????, ill take 12 and open a sweatshop in hondurasimage
    looks like my dreams ofr .g.s have been crushed- i could get slabs and prob make one, couldnt be that much different that a hydrolic press the way it works
    get yer ripped in half R.S.C. 10's card commons 10.00 a pop- match em up with your friendsimage
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312


    << <i>only 10 to 25 grand?????, ill take 12 and open a sweatshop in hondurasimage
    looks like my dreams ofr .g.s have been crushed- i could get slabs and prob make one, couldnt be that much different that a hydrolic press the way it works
    get yer ripped in half R.S.C. 10's card commons 10.00 a pop- match em up with your friendsimage >>



    Maybe it's just me (and the couple of Bud Ice's that I just had), but WHAT did you just say ?
    :-)

    I'm with you on the beating down of young children for profit part
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    image

    drink a couple more and you might be on my wacko brainwave hockeyimage
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312
    good idea

    by then, I'll be ready to talk hockey with "lsutigers1973"
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i cant talk much hockey, just that garrets autos are incredible that he makesimage
    ive been sending him my cool papa bell cut sig for a year now, gonna do that image
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312
    What was the question about in this thread ?
    oh yeah
    just say no to CSA

    I think you'll find that most here prefer BGS :-)
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    say to to vsa to,cut newspaper clippings from mags-all 10's-calls them cardsimage
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    hockeyguyhockeyguy Posts: 312
    good night y'all from Texas
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    weinholdweinhold Posts: 503
    So what is it that's wrong with CSA? Do they grade trimmed cards? Other? I'm considering buying a CSA card at a deep discount relative to what the card would cost in a PSA holder.

    My only CSA experience to date: months ago, I bought a CSA 9 graded 1951 Bowman Otto Graham card at a deep discount (relative to PSA 9), and plan to crack and submit to SGC or PSA but have not done so yet. The Graham looks like it can make an '8' at a "reputable" company, so if it isn't trimmed it will work out in my favor. Of course, this also begs the question: why was I able to get the Graham so inexpensively - is it because CSA is unreputable and unknown, or just unknown?

    Thanks in advance if you have had any CSA experiences.
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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,608 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.............why was I able to get the Graham so inexpensively - is it because CSA is unreputable and unknown, or just unknown?........ >>



    C) not reputable and known
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    dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    I wouldn't buy nothing CSA but....

    One thing you can do is homework, Look at what the seller is offering does he have any PSA/BGS/SGC cards? has he sold any in the past? if so that's a good indicator the card won't get in a good holder otherwise the seller would have done so himself to maximize profits..
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    weinholdweinhold Posts: 503
    The seller of the CSA card mostly sells SGCs and PSAs. However, he is consigning it for another.
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    trapperladtrapperlad Posts: 107 ✭✭
    The cards are trimmed!!!!! Especially if this seller is from a southeast state that is the home of Mickey Mouse and Shamu . It amazes me how any seller with any ethics can knowingly sell these cards.
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    dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    I'd run the other way......... image
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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with those that think one should steer clear of these cards.

    I've heard many say - like Gem - their holders are loaded with trimmed cards.

    For those who might not know - CSA is a franchise spin-off of ASA - of Alan Hager reknown.

    Back around 1992, Hager was advertising in SCD - the sale of franchises - he supplied you with equipment and right to use his arrowhead holder and his 10 pt system (he takes credit for the design of that holder which PSA obtained from him - along with the 10 pt grading system) - which if memory serves - at that time he still had the copyright - which I believe ran out?

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    My criticism of ASA? He graded what he sold. I have seen cards so overgraded - at times - that it defied gravity!

    If I ever come across the ad in an old SCD, I'll post it.

    CSA - I want to say - actually started out of Ohio - not sure when it wound up in NY?

    mike

    Mike
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