CSA Grading??

CardsForMS

has anyone heard of CSA grading? what is the rep they have

dizzle

Last I heard they were slabbing cards out of the owners Mom's basement...

jcdcubs

how about GMA grading? $1.50 per card!!!!!!

dizzle

<< <i>how about GMA grading? $1.50 per card!!!!!! >>



Yup, They even have grade your own cards service...you just tell them the grades for each card and they will slab em and even make labels with a company name.

storm888

It is pretty safe to just stick with PSA.

rube26105

Yup, They even have grade your own cards service...you just tell them the grades for each card and they will slab em and even make labels with a company name

that would be cool, send in a card ripped in half and taped back together and get a 10, if u ever see r.s.c-thats me, you can figure out what it staads for

PoppaJ

Just curious.... what's the approximate value of the cards that
you're wanting to get graded?

PoppaJ

hockeyguy

the only question I have, is if its safe to assume they are a nickel & dime company, then where do they get their slabs from ? It DOES look like a typical (but different designed) slab, and I'm sure it cost money to have them made. Is there a company out there that can design a graded slab for "Joe Shmo" collector, and make it affordable ?

I wouldnt mind creating my own grading company, just for my personal collection ... HGG (Hockey Guy Grading) :-)

Knuckles

<< <i>I wouldnt mind creating my own grading company, just for my personal collection ... HGG (Hockey Guy Grading) :-) >>


sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?!

hockeyguy

<< <i>sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! >>



Dont I wish

Seriously though. Maybe I'm just behind the times (still love my tapes), but where do these guys order up their slabs from, and eqipment to seal them ?

I would really like to be able to do that, just for my own collection

lsutigers1973

CSA = Card Scam Artist

Knuckles

I wonder how well that would do.. sending your cards in just to have nicely slabbed with a good looking flip and no grading done..

dizzle

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<< <i>sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! >>



Dont I wish

Seriously though. Maybe I'm just behind the times (still love my tapes), but where do these guys order up their slabs from, and eqipment to seal them ?

I would really like to be able to do that, just for my own collection >>



scroll down they have pricing for slabs and blank flips and will set you up with a sealing machine

LINK>>

hockeyguy

I was thinking of a case / slab that you can buy that looks and acts very much like a graded card slab. Put the card & label in, snap on the top, and it's sealed by some inner prongs "thingy a ma jiggies". The only way to get the card out, is to snap it apart, breaking the prongs. Just an idea for someone else to use and make lots of money, because I'm too much of a lazy azzz to develope it myself.


I should have been designing slabs at GM, instead of stupid Consoles & IP's

hockeyguy

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<< <i>sounds legitimate, where do I send my money to become a member?! >>



Dont I wish

Seriously though. Maybe I'm just behind the times (still love my tapes), but where do these guys order up their slabs from, and eqipment to seal them ?

I would really like to be able to do that, just for my own collection >>



scroll down they have pricing for slabs and blank flips and will set you up with a sealing machine

LINK>> >>



maybe we can do a "Group Break" for the $10,000 - $25,000 machine

rube26105

only 10 to 25 grand?????, ill take 12 and open a sweatshop in honduras
looks like my dreams ofr .g.s have been crushed- i could get slabs and prob make one, couldnt be that much different that a hydrolic press the way it works
get yer ripped in half R.S.C. 10's card commons 10.00 a pop- match em up with your friends

hockeyguy

<< <i>only 10 to 25 grand?????, ill take 12 and open a sweatshop in honduras
looks like my dreams ofr .g.s have been crushed- i could get slabs and prob make one, couldnt be that much different that a hydrolic press the way it works
get yer ripped in half R.S.C. 10's card commons 10.00 a pop- match em up with your friends >>



Maybe it's just me (and the couple of Bud Ice's that I just had), but WHAT did you just say ?
:-)

I'm with you on the beating down of young children for profit part

rube26105

drink a couple more and you might be on my wacko brainwave hockey

hockeyguy

good idea

by then, I'll be ready to talk hockey with "lsutigers1973"

rube26105

i cant talk much hockey, just that garrets autos are incredible that he makes
ive been sending him my cool papa bell cut sig for a year now, gonna do that

hockeyguy

What was the question about in this thread ?
oh yeah
just say no to CSA

I think you'll find that most here prefer BGS :-)

rube26105

say to to vsa to,cut newspaper clippings from mags-all 10's-calls them cards

hockeyguy

good night y'all from Texas

weinhold

So what is it that's wrong with CSA? Do they grade trimmed cards? Other? I'm considering buying a CSA card at a deep discount relative to what the card would cost in a PSA holder.

My only CSA experience to date: months ago, I bought a CSA 9 graded 1951 Bowman Otto Graham card at a deep discount (relative to PSA 9), and plan to crack and submit to SGC or PSA but have not done so yet. The Graham looks like it can make an '8' at a "reputable" company, so if it isn't trimmed it will work out in my favor. Of course, this also begs the question: why was I able to get the Graham so inexpensively - is it because CSA is unreputable and unknown, or just unknown?

Thanks in advance if you have had any CSA experiences.

nam812

<< <i>.............why was I able to get the Graham so inexpensively - is it because CSA is unreputable and unknown, or just unknown?........ >>



C) not reputable and known

dizzle

I wouldn't buy nothing CSA but....

One thing you can do is homework, Look at what the seller is offering does he have any PSA/BGS/SGC cards? has he sold any in the past? if so that's a good indicator the card won't get in a good holder otherwise the seller would have done so himself to maximize profits..

weinhold

The seller of the CSA card mostly sells SGCs and PSAs. However, he is consigning it for another.

trapperlad

The cards are trimmed!!!!! Especially if this seller is from a southeast state that is the home of Mickey Mouse and Shamu . It amazes me how any seller with any ethics can knowingly sell these cards.

dizzle

I'd run the other way.........

Stone193

I agree with those that think one should steer clear of these cards.

I've heard many say - like Gem - their holders are loaded with trimmed cards.

For those who might not know - CSA is a franchise spin-off of ASA - of Alan Hager reknown.

Back around 1992, Hager was advertising in SCD - the sale of franchises - he supplied you with equipment and right to use his arrowhead holder and his 10 pt system (he takes credit for the design of that holder which PSA obtained from him - along with the 10 pt grading system) - which if memory serves - at that time he still had the copyright - which I believe ran out?



My criticism of ASA? He graded what he sold. I have seen cards so overgraded - at times - that it defied gravity!

If I ever come across the ad in an old SCD, I'll post it.

CSA - I want to say - actually started out of Ohio - not sure when it wound up in NY?

mike