Jeter Little sun auto Real or Fake?

MinorLeagueSource · August 8, 2009 10:38AM

What do people think of this card? I have my opinion & why, but I'll let people look at it & make there own opinions. Theres like 7 on ebay currently up or in completed auctions. Comparethem & see what you come up with.

Also its from our favorite seller.

Jeter Little Suns Auto

Best regards!

swartz1 · August 8, 2009 10:54AM

looks similar enough to the other two on the bay right now...

MBMiller25 · August 8, 2009 10:56AM

I wouldnt touch that card with a ten foot pole.

Edit to add: Why, The seller first and foremost.

Gonblott · August 8, 2009 10:57AM

I just bought this one off of eBay not too long ago, Jeter .

okposo21 · August 8, 2009 10:58AM

it looks a bit like the facsimile auto on the 2006 topps cards.

On that note, while it might be real (the D in derek looks somewhat similar to other rookie autos of his) , I wouldn't go near it. Not when a new jeter auto is (alot more) affordable.

MinorLeagueSource · August 8, 2009 11:06AM

My opinion & only mine. I feel its not real. I have owned 9 of these & also have seen over 60.

1) The D is a diff shape from all that I've come accross.
2) I never seen the Derek seperated from the Jeter. (WAY OFF)
3) The stroke on the J on all real ones on the down stoke usually goes light.
4) The R at the end looks off.
5) The seller.

Best regards!

EB22 · August 8, 2009 11:18AM

I wouldn't touch that...

vladguerrero · August 8, 2009 11:20AM

I looked at the card and said fake, then I noticed the seller and , well, don't buy it...

Underwraps · August 8, 2009 11:48AM

Minorleague source ....Yes I would say the first one looks kind of shady. Ive handled many of these and as odd as it seems when they say, "oh but he couldn't of signed all 250 the same way... well I got news for you he did on this issue.

Now another problem thats occuring here is that some people are buying the Proof which wasnt signed and their either forging it or handing it to Jeter to sign now thats why on some you see a different sig.

The auction ending 2 minutes after the one you posted is a real auto and this is the way all 250 were signed. LINK

A couple months ago I seen a non graded one sell where Jeter had crossed the T which he never does.

And for the poster above who paid 3k for the PSA 10 dont worry its a real auto from 1992.

1 more thing to consider with this card in the PSA pop report is that back in day PSA graded the Proof and mixed it with this Pop report so the numbers are skewed in favor of the auto card

MinorLeagueSource · August 8, 2009 11:58AM

<< Now another problem thats occuring here is that some people are buying the Proof which wasnt signed and their either forging it or handing it to Jeter to sign now thats why on some you see a different sig. >>

All ones signed now would be his new auto. Like I said I never seen one with the Derek & the Jeter seperated.

Gonblott · August 8, 2009 12:01PM

<< I just bought this one off of eBay not too long ago, Jeter . >>

Is my new addition legit auto?

Underwraps · August 8, 2009 12:02PM

yes its legit

Gonblott · August 8, 2009 12:08PM

Sweet.

Just making sure

I want to get 1992 Front Row Auto PSA 10 next.

Underwraps · August 8, 2009 12:13PM

Gonblot .... A PSA 10 of this card was on ebay about a month ago from shoeless that ended at 2k, lucky you missed that one, it was a dud in my opinion. This is why yours finished so high the sharps know which auto is good and which isnt. Im happy you won it, very nice card.

swartz1 · August 8, 2009 12:24PM

I wonder how "this fake auto" got holdered?

any opinions on this?

Underwraps · August 8, 2009 12:30PM

<< I wonder how "this fake auto" got holdered?

any opinions on this? >>

Could of slipped by one of the graders. But most likely its a proof that was signed just recently by Jeter.

Gonblott · August 8, 2009 12:31PM

<< Gonblot .... A PSA 10 of this card was on ebay about a month ago from shoeless that ended at 2k, lucky you missed that one, it was a dud in my opinion. This is why yours finished so high the sharps know which auto is good and which isnt. Im happy you won it, very nice card. >>

I know......almost won that auction but forgot to bid at the last second.

Good thing I missed it!

calaban7 · August 8, 2009 12:47PM

<< I wouldnt touch that card with a ten foot pole.

Edit to add: Why, The seller first and foremost. >>

Totally agree.

I bought a card from that azzwhole early this year. I got it real cheap , as no one was looking or buying. I paid immediately . After 2 weeks , I emailed about the card. Nothing. I started the item-not-recieved thing. He then claims I never paid him , so that his Ebay fees would be reduced. After contacting Ebay / paypal , I got my money back and I learned my lesson.

Don't do it.

mccardguy1 · August 8, 2009 1:03PM

<< My opinion & only mine. I feel its not real. I have owned 9 of these & also have seen over 60.

1) The D is a diff shape from all that I've come accross.
2) I never seen the Derek seperated from the Jeter. (WAY OFF)
3) The stroke on the J on all real ones on the down stoke usually goes light.
4) The R at the end looks off.
5) The seller.

Best regards! >>

This is the kind of analysis I have been asking for all along. I appreciate the fact you took the time to give a full and detailed reason for your opinion that the autograph is not good.

Thank you

Andrew

IchiroDeported · August 8, 2009 1:36PM

"But most likely its a proof that was signed just recently by Jeter"

so..... the card IS signed by jeter, just not in 1992. pardon my ignorance, but it's still Jeter right? its not a forgery.

okposo21 · August 8, 2009 1:37PM

Ichiro, that is most certainly NOT a recent (post, 1998) Jeter auto. Not even close.

MinorLeagueSource · August 8, 2009 1:43PM

The card is fake!

swartz1 · August 8, 2009 9:13PM

the card is fake...

the auto is real - just not from 1992??

someone has to clear this up...

MinorLeagueSource · August 8, 2009 10:10PM

The auto is fake. The card is a real little suns card but it was the unsigned version. The seller or the person where this card originated has forged the auto. I've stated in a recent psot why the auto isnt real.

Best regards!

swartz1 · August 8, 2009 10:38PM

<< 

<< I wonder how "this fake auto" got holdered?

any opinions on this? >>

Could of slipped by one of the graders. But most likely its a proof that was signed just recently by Jeter. >>

okay, because I read this and was confused...

Underwraps · August 9, 2009 2:14AM

You can easily compare Shoeless card with the Jeter littlesun ending 2 minutes after which is the real auto and from 1992.

MinorLeagueSource · August 9, 2009 8:38AM

I dont know how he contiouesly gets away with this. Everyone on the planet know hes a forger, trimmer & fake patch maker. ITS AMAZING!!!

swartz1 · August 11, 2009 7:27AM

Oh My Jeter Signature

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · August 11, 2009 7:41AM

Underwraps · August 11, 2009 8:53AM

Thats just a sick drawing...LOLOLOLOLOL

MinorLeagueSource · August 11, 2009 8:55AM

<< Oh My Jeter Signature >>

Not even close!

storm888 · August 11, 2009 8:59AM

<< I dont know how he contiouesly gets away with this. Everyone on the planet know hes a forger, trimmer & fake patch maker. ITS AMAZING!!! >>

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Underwraps · August 11, 2009 9:13AM

The main problem here is that PSA graded this auto authentic. This should be reported to PSA and they should re-call the card from shoeless and have the auction removed. Problem is how do we convince them that one of their graders certified this auto as authentic when it isnt?

MinorLeagueSource · August 11, 2009 9:26AM

<< The main problem here is that PSA graded this auto authentic. This should be reported to PSA and they should re-call the card from shoeless and have the auction removed. Problem is how do we convince them that one of their graders certified this auto as authentic when it isnt? >>

Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure if it was brought to there attention they would do the right thing.

Best regards!

hammered · August 11, 2009 9:28AM

Keep in mind, too, that Jeter signed this when he was like, 10.

10-year-olds don't really have an established signature yet.

Seriously, how can you expect a high school kid to have the same sig that he has 20 years later?

storm888 · August 11, 2009 9:35AM

"...Problem is how do we convince them that one of their graders certified this auto as authentic when it isnt? .."

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Generally, an end-user - in possession of the item - needs to be the
party that initiates a "warranty claim."

While we might think PSA is "obligated" to take a proactive stance,
they are not really bound/required to do so, UNLESS they become
TOTALLY convinced that there is an error that will result in harm to
another person. Even then, the nature of their "obligation" to act,
absent a warranty claim, is murky.

Obviously, though, it is not in any TPG's interest to have a bad sig
residing in one of their slabs. This might cause PSA to want to take
some kind of preemptive action.

Opinion vs. Opinion is usually a tough sell.

Underwraps · August 11, 2009 9:54AM

Seriously, how can you expect a high school kid to have the same sig that he has 20 years later?>>>>>>>>

Well everyone knows that Jeter never crosses his T's ..even his 3 grade teacher

Jeter Little sun auto Real or Fake?

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