Scam on Craigslist

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 6:37AM

Just received a call from a dealer who showed that someone is listing a coin from our website on craigslist.

What the heck can we do about this scumbag

adamlaneus · August 4, 2009 6:40AM

If he is hosting the picture directly off of your server...you are in some control here:

Go find some awful offensive picture and swap the coin pic out for that one.

If he has copied that photo and is hosting it himself, there is little you can do.
Find the listing on Craigslist and flag it.

sTONER · August 4, 2009 6:41AM

hey TOM, i beleive you can flag the post

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 6:42AM

Here:

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/clt/1304557484.html

adamlaneus · August 4, 2009 6:44AM

Needs to be flagged.

Before it disappears, I cut-and-pasted the text of this awful ad:

"UP FOUR SELL IS A 1839 C 2.50 CLASSIC HEAD GOLD COIN THAT IS GRADE BUY ONE OF THE TOP GRADEING OUTFIT. OUT THERE WHICH IS NGC THIS COIN IS A MS61 WHICH HAS A PCGS PRICE AROUND 27000 BUCKS OR BETTER. THIS COIN WOULD MAKE A GOOD COIN FOUR SOMEONE THAT LOVE RARE GOLD COINS.YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT FANOFLITE@AOL.COM . I DO OFFER A 7 DAY MONEY BACK MINUS SHIPPING. AND THE FORMS OF PAYMENT WELL BE A CASHIER CHECK .THE WELL HAVE TO PUT A HOLD ON SHIPPING TELL THE CHECK CLEARS .AND I WELL TAKE A BANK WIRE. AND ONCE THAT IS DONE THE COIN WELL BE SHIPPED SAME DAY. AND MY NAME IS OSCAR LONG. AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOUR LOOKING. "

Cashiers' check with a "hold" or a wire transfer only.

Four shame.

stinkinlincoln · August 4, 2009 6:47AM

FANOFLITE@AOL.COM

everyone should email him real nasty crap.

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 6:48AM

I called Craigs List. I got a snippy female on the line who told me I was not following procedure. Not following procedure?

Whoever gets ripped off from this lowlife should go after craigslist.

This is where this dirtbag stole it from:

39-C

Grrrr

The dealer told me that this lowlife has been advertising other coins on various craigslists around the country . I called the police dept there and got an answering machine. Seems like they are away from their offices.

cars · August 4, 2009 6:54AM

I saw a news report a few days ago about a real estate agent that was posting houses for sale/rent on CL. Well, Someone else was also posting them, Meeting the people & Taking deposits and disappearing. I don't remember the outcome but don't believe they were able to do anything. Its a shame but I for one would Never purchase an item such as that from someone who used that grammer, Says "bucks" instead of dollars or that wants a check/wire transfer. CL is great for Cash in person deals only!

Boom · August 4, 2009 6:57AM

Find out who that address belongs to & file charges.

Good Luck.

GrumpyEd · August 4, 2009 6:57AM

<< "UP FOUR SELL IS A 1839 C 2.50 CLASSIC HEAD GOLD COIN THAT IS GRADE BUY ONE OF THE TOP GRADEING OUTFIT. OUT THERE WHICH IS NGC THIS COIN IS A MS61 WHICH HAS A PCGS PRICE AROUND 27000 BUCKS OR BETTER. THIS COIN WOULD MAKE A GOOD COIN FOUR SOMEONE THAT LOVE RARE GOLD COINS.YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT FANOFLITE@AOL.COM . I DO OFFER A 7 DAY MONEY BACK MINUS SHIPPING. AND THE FORMS OF PAYMENT WELL BE A CASHIER CHECK .THE WELL HAVE TO PUT A HOLD ON SHIPPING TELL THE CHECK CLEARS .AND I WELL TAKE A BANK WIRE. AND ONCE THAT IS DONE THE COIN WELL BE SHIPPED SAME DAY. AND MY NAME IS OSCAR LONG. AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOUR LOOKING. " >>

LOL.... And we thought our spelling was bad!

stinkinlincoln · August 4, 2009 6:59AM

<<THIS COIN WOULD MAKE A GOOD COIN FOUR SOMEONE THAT LOVE RARE GOLD COINS.>>

edited to ad: Not trying to make light of mrearlygolds issues with this major scumbag.

SilverEagles92 · August 4, 2009 7:01AM

<< I for one would Never purchase an item such as that from someone who used that grammer >>

Boom · August 4, 2009 7:02AM

With THIS, it should be pretty obvious what you're up against.

<< "UP FOUR SELL IS A 1839 C 2.50 CLASSIC HEAD GOLD COIN THAT IS GRADE BUY ONE OF THE TOP GRADEING OUTFIT. OUT THERE WHICH IS NGC THIS COIN IS A MS61 WHICH HAS A PCGS PRICE AROUND 27000 BUCKS OR BETTER. THIS COIN WOULD MAKE A GOOD COIN FOUR SOMEONE THAT LOVE RARE GOLD COINS.YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT FANOFLITE@AOL.COM . I DO OFFER A 7 DAY MONEY BACK MINUS SHIPPING. AND THE FORMS OF PAYMENT WELL BE A CASHIER CHECK .THE WELL HAVE TO PUT A HOLD ON SHIPPING TELL THE CHECK CLEARS .AND I WELL TAKE A BANK WIRE. AND ONCE THAT IS DONE THE COIN WELL BE SHIPPED SAME DAY. AND MY NAME IS OSCAR LONG. AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOUR LOOKING. " >>

Right!

doh · August 4, 2009 7:12AM

Craigslist takes no responsibility for what's on their site. I had a problem with a purchase on there and was told to call my local police department. I did so and was able to rectify the situation. That's my advice to you: keep calling the police until someone picks up.

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 7:15AM

<< Craigslist takes no responsibility for what's on their site. I had a problem with a purchase on there and was told to call my local police department. I did so and was able to rectify the situation. That's my advice to you: keep calling the police until someone picks up. >>

They have been notified now in writing and on the phone. This is where some fine lawyer somewhere might want to cut his teeth and gnaw on craigslist a bit and see what happens.

Far as continuing to call the police. I'm done. I've notified the police in 2 places and craigslist. Beyond that there's nothing else I can do.

Maybe if I called to tell them that 2 kids were smoking pot in the parkiing lot they'd mobilize the national guard. But for what could be grand theft, I guess they don't care.

Res · August 4, 2009 7:22AM

<< 

<< Craigslist takes no responsibility for what's on their site. I had a problem with a purchase on there and was told to call my local police department. I did so and was able to rectify the situation. That's my advice to you: keep calling the police until someone picks up. >>

They have been notified now in writing and on the phone. This is where some fine lawyer somewhere might want to cut his teeth and gnaw on craigslist a bit and see what happens.

Far as continuing to call the police. I'm done. I've notified the police in 2 places and craigslist. Beyond that there's nothing else I can do.

Maybe if I called to tell them that 2 kids were smoking pot in the parkiing lot they'd mobilize the national guard. But for what could be grand theft, I guess they don't care. >>

Most law enforcement is done reactively. They don't have the time or resources to be proactive. Once the guy does rip someone off, they'll be happy to investigate.

rbalderman1 · August 4, 2009 7:27AM

the "key" to detecting fradulent people on the internet is "spelling", hopefully someone willing to spend 25k will figure it out.

Elcontador · August 4, 2009 7:41AM

When has there NOT been a scam on Craigslist?

PQType · August 4, 2009 7:48AM

Report this to the State AG office in each state ..Consumer Protection. They may be able to take permanent action.

rgCoinGuy · August 4, 2009 7:51AM

Call Bill Clinton, he can fix anything.

ModernCrapNut · August 4, 2009 8:01AM

The listing is still there. I just flagged it as prohibited. Everyone should help out....I have no idea how many flags it takes to get it off the site.

adamlaneus · August 4, 2009 8:03AM

What, i'm supposed to buy a coin based on those crappy pictures?

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 8:03AM

<< The listing is still there. I just flagged it as prohibited. Everyone should help out....I have no idea how many flags it takes to get it off the site. >>

Thanks, I did too. Amazing. I was told that this lowlife has been selling Gold Buffalo's, also on craigslist.

coindeuce · August 4, 2009 8:14AM

I believe that there is more you can proactively do. Since you have the AOL email address for the fraudulent lister, you could try notifying AOL that one of their users is perpetrating fraudulent activity using their AOL email address. The usual response from AOL is that they can only control activity on the AOL website, but that is pure BS. You can be certain that if AOL was notified that one of their subscribers was promoting child porn on the ethernet that they would be instantly shut off.

RYK · August 4, 2009 8:21AM

I think that it is extraordinarily unlikely that someone would attempt to purchase this coin from the Craigslist ad. Those of us who buy such coins are, contrary to public opinion, not as dumb as we look.

AUandAG · August 4, 2009 8:36AM

He's in Olive Hill, KY. Someone nearby, like Rose Hill, should ask to come over to
look at it in person and see what he says. Any takers??

Be interesting to see what he says.

bob

luckyman · August 4, 2009 8:41AM

His name is Oscar Long??? Oscar Mayer weiner extra long.......Dodger dog anyone????

doh · August 4, 2009 8:45AM

HA! I e-mailed him and asked for some background on the coin. I got 2 responses:
"i got this coin a while back ago in baltimore md at the coin auction .this coin is the best i had four a while .it is a very rare coin at ms61 it does look better but its alright. it is 19000 bucks it books four 27000 or better on pcgs price guide.you can look it up at pcgs .com i have a few 5 dollar charlotte mint coins that is au 50 bye ngc but i might sell later. if interested let me know ok thanks from oscar long"

"if i dont sell this coin in a couple of weeks i am going to try to see if it can be up grade to a ms 62 i think it can i had a dealer to look at it and they told me it might be a ms62.let me know something ok thanks from oscar"

Bayard1908 · August 4, 2009 8:56AM

Although I don't think this illiterate is going to get any takers, you could create your own post on Craigslist stating that you own the coin.

jhdfla · August 4, 2009 9:08AM

KY eh? I found out where he lives. Dark blue and white unit on the right, three flights up:

Edited to add, flagged him as prohibited as well.

gonzer · August 4, 2009 9:14AM

Kentucky? I figured, based on his linguistic skills, he was in Shanghai or Beijing!

tightbudget · August 4, 2009 9:21AM

I just sent him an email asking him what was the best he could do with price. I'm just that bored.

commoncents123 · August 4, 2009 9:23AM

If someone would send a person on Craigslist $25k...they're weird.

COALPORTER · August 4, 2009 9:29AM

<< Just received a call from a dealer who showed that someone is listing a coin from our website on craigslist.

What the heck can we do about this scumbag >>

Graigslist allows all users to flag posts for removal. Do that several times and they are good about removing it. Trying to go any further i.e. find out who did it and doning anything legal will probably prove to be a waste of time.

Post your own notice on CL stating that the subject post is a scam and fraud.

COALPORTER · August 4, 2009 9:30AM

<< If he is hosting the picture directly off of your server...you are in some control here:

Go find some awful offensive picture and swap the coin pic out for that one.

If he has copied that photo and is hosting it himself, there is little you can do.
Find the listing on Craigslist and flag it. >>

Unfortunatly, offensive pictures are very common on CL. So, it would probably just look like a typical CL poster.

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 9:46AM

<< 

<< Just received a call from a dealer who showed that someone is listing a coin from our website on craigslist.

What the heck can we do about this scumbag >>

Graigslist allows all users to flag posts for removal. Do that several times and they are good about removing it. Trying to go any further i.e. find out who did it and doning anything legal will probably prove to be a waste of time.

Post your own notice on CL stating that the subject post is a scam and fraud. >>

Thanks CB but I do not frequent craigslist and have thought of it as nothing more than a sleazy website. That feeling has been confirmed today.

ClosedLoop · August 4, 2009 9:47AM

<< His name is Oscar Long??? Oscar Mayer weiner extra long.......Dodger dog anyone???? >>

I just fell off my chair!!!!!

BTW, ya think that's his real name?

Ask him if he has anything with the word COPY stamped on it?

AUandAG · August 4, 2009 10:24AM

Homeowner is David Long.
Address is 264 Strawberry Dr.
Olive Hill, Ky

Probably a kid that lives under David's roof.

bob

WinPitcher · August 4, 2009 10:27AM

You guys are too late I already bought it.

Hope it looks good in hand.

Steve

notwilight · August 4, 2009 10:32AM

<< The listing is still there. I just flagged it as prohibited. Everyone should help out....I have no idea how many flags it takes to get it off the site. >>

But it is not prohibited. It is fraud. The craigslist drone will just look at your flag and say, "This guy doesn't know what he is talking about." --Jerry

doh · August 4, 2009 10:44AM

he just responded to my e-mail:
"this coin is in my house now so dont even try to pull a fast one here .you know if you are interested let me know i sell coin on here all the time and they are shipped out .to"

I sent him a link to this thread. What a piece of work.

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 10:45AM

Well, I've sent a detailed communication to law enforcement.

Cameonut · August 4, 2009 10:56AM

Sounds like poor Oscar is going to get his tally whacked.

tightbudget · August 4, 2009 10:58AM

Got a response as to whether or not he'd accept a lower offer:

"no this coin is at the lowest price .and i do not take fake cashier check ether"

Gee! Didn't know scammers could be so stingy!

WoodenJefferson · August 4, 2009 11:44AM

This posting has been deleted by its author.
(The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)

BOOM!

mrearlygold · August 4, 2009 11:50AM

seatedcollector · August 4, 2009 12:32PM

if any serious collector would even consider an ad with THAT many spelling errors, that collector DESERVES to be ripped off !

commoncents123 · August 4, 2009 1:44PM

<< he just responded to my e-mail:
"this coin is in my house now so dont even try to pull a fast one here .you know if you are interested let me know i sell coin on here all the time and they are shipped out .to"

I sent him a link to this thread. What a piece of work. >>

Don't give away our secret location to the crooks, man, what are you thinking?!

oreville · August 4, 2009 3:02PM

I am the only person that went to undergraduate and graduate school at Case Western Reserve University in the same exact years from 1971 to 1977 with Craig Newmark of Craigslist.

Many classes together.

He is a good guy.

speety · August 4, 2009 3:05PM

and it's gone...

BlindedByEgo · August 4, 2009 4:00PM

I google mapped the address posted and it doesn't exist.

Seriously, someone needs to put this guy, and others like him, down.

Scam on Craigslist

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