requested no qualifiers and got a few...handcut card came back "authentic" without grade..

MULLINS5 · July 13, 2009 12:23PM

Does PSA automatically assign a qualifier for being off centered even when you request no qualifiers? Also, I had a handcut card come back as "authentic" and without a grade...I have seen the handcut cards with grades and mine were in great shape...

Thanks,

Patrick
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bobbyw8469 · July 13, 2009 12:27PM

I submitted two Ty Cobbs hand cut...both came back AUTHENTIC. It is my belief, they don't assign grades to hand cuts?

otwcards · July 13, 2009 12:31PM

Hand cuts WILL be assigned a grade IF they meet the standards for the issue. When they do not, they are noted as Hand Cut and graded AUTHENTIC.

Stone193 · July 13, 2009 12:32PM

<< I submitted two Ty Cobbs hand cut...both came back AUTHENTIC. It is my belief, they don't assign grades to hand cuts? >>

They do assign grades to handcuts.

My guess? If not cut properly to their criteria - then they get the authentic grade.

mike

IJustLoveCards · July 13, 2009 12:36PM

Yes they do..

calaban7 · July 13, 2009 12:41PM

<< Yes they do..

>>

WOW , great card.

MULLINS5 · July 13, 2009 12:42PM

I know they have graded the Gretzky handcuts from this issue as theer are two 8's on the pop report, but here is the scan of the card I got back from PSA..sorry I am having some scanner issues...

Stone193 · July 13, 2009 12:50PM

<< I know they have graded the Gretzky handcuts from this issue as theer are two 8's on the pop report, but here is the scan of the card I got back from PSA..sorry I am having some scanner issues...

>>

From the PSA grading standards:

*In order for PSA to actually assign a grade to any of the cards that possess visible/defined borders on all four sides, evidence of that border must be present. If the cut exceeds the visible border for the card in question, PSA will encapsulate the card as "Authentic" only. If the card is severely undersized and suffers in overall eye-appeal, the graders may deem the card not suitable for authentication or reject the card as minimum sized altogether

This is what I was talking about - if ya don't have any of the border - no grade from what I can see.

mike

nightcrawler · July 13, 2009 5:43PM

I personally like the qualifiers. It's a way of describing the cards defect while showing an honest grade otherwise. I'd also pay more for a 9(oc) than a 7... JMO

Eye appeal really counts though.

WinPitcher · July 13, 2009 10:33PM

As for the qualifiers you can ask but that does not mean you will not get them all the time.

It is up to the grader.

Steve

mikeschmidt · July 13, 2009 11:14PM

Plus -- there are some qualifiers that do not go away...things like MK and MC. However, OC qualifier usually should theoretically go away to a lower straight grade-

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Texoma · July 13, 2009 11:35PM

<< As for the qualifiers you can ask but that does not mean you will not get them all the time.

It is up to the grader.

Steve >>

Steve--

Does PSA assign ever assign any qualifiers to hand-cut? Besides (ST)? All I've ever received was a grade with no qualifiers or "Authentic".

TxO

hotmush · July 13, 2009 11:56PM

Doesn't it seem weird that if you take a box panel and cut out one of the cards with all four borders (as per the grading standards of PSA) then none of the other three cards will have all their borders left intact?

swartz1 · July 14, 2009 12:40AM

Hand-cuts receive O/C qualifiers...

If you pay and request no qualifiers it should be granted regardless of the grader...jmo

mikeschmidt · July 14, 2009 1:10AM

I've seen O/C qualifiers on some hand-cut cards. Some, like Red Foley, are very small with exceptionally narrow borders, for instance.

bigjaco · July 14, 2009 2:13AM

Based on:

<< *In order for PSA to actually assign a grade to any of the cards that possess visible/defined borders on all four sides, evidence of that border must be present. If the cut exceeds the visible border for the card in question, PSA will encapsulate the card as "Authentic" only. If the card is severely undersized and suffers in overall eye-appeal, the graders may deem the card not suitable for authentication or reject the card as minimum sized altogether >>

I have yet to see cut 1952 Wheaties cards contain boarders. Does this mean the blue boarder must be intact to receive grades? If so there goes 4 wasted submissions for me.

bigjaco · July 14, 2009 10:03AM

found the answer to my own question '52 wheaties don't include the boarder to be a 10. Mile High's catalog has two of them as psa 10 no borders showing. /whew

otwcards · July 14, 2009 10:08AM

There are quite a few handcut cards that do not have borders. In this case, implied borders are considered as well as the specific measurements of the cards. A simple modern example would be Topps/OPC/Fleer box bottoms that do not have borders but should meet the standard 2 1/2 x 3 1/2 measurement.

mtcards · July 14, 2009 1:05PM

Isnt grading a hand cut card akin to grading a trimmed card?

hammered · July 14, 2009 1:12PM

<< Isnt grading a hand cut card akin to grading a trimmed card? >>

No, because some issues like Hostess, Bazooka, etc were ONLY distributed on boxes and were intended to be hand cut. Very different story with pack-released cards that were trimmed or sheet-cut cards that were intended to be distributed in packs.

requested no qualifiers and got a few...handcut card came back &quot;authentic&quot; without grade..

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requested no qualifiers and got a few...handcut card came back "authentic" without grade..