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requested no qualifiers and got a few...handcut card came back "authentic" without grade..

MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
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Does PSA automatically assign a qualifier for being off centered even when you request no qualifiers? Also, I had a handcut card come back as "authentic" and without a grade...I have seen the handcut cards with grades and mine were in great shape...


Thanks,

Patrick
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    I submitted two Ty Cobbs hand cut...both came back AUTHENTIC. It is my belief, they don't assign grades to hand cuts?
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Hand cuts WILL be assigned a grade IF they meet the standards for the issue. When they do not, they are noted as Hand Cut and graded AUTHENTIC.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I submitted two Ty Cobbs hand cut...both came back AUTHENTIC. It is my belief, they don't assign grades to hand cuts? >>

    They do assign grades to handcuts.

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    My guess? If not cut properly to their criteria - then they get the authentic grade.

    mike
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  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    Yes they do..

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  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes they do..

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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    I know they have graded the Gretzky handcuts from this issue as theer are two 8's on the pop report, but here is the scan of the card I got back from PSA..sorry I am having some scanner issues...


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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know they have graded the Gretzky handcuts from this issue as theer are two 8's on the pop report, but here is the scan of the card I got back from PSA..sorry I am having some scanner issues...


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    From the PSA grading standards:

    *In order for PSA to actually assign a grade to any of the cards that possess visible/defined borders on all four sides, evidence of that border must be present. If the cut exceeds the visible border for the card in question, PSA will encapsulate the card as "Authentic" only. If the card is severely undersized and suffers in overall eye-appeal, the graders may deem the card not suitable for authentication or reject the card as minimum sized altogether

    This is what I was talking about - if ya don't have any of the border - no grade from what I can see.

    mike
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  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    I personally like the qualifiers. It's a way of describing the cards defect while showing an honest grade otherwise. I'd also pay more for a 9(oc) than a 7... JMO

    Eye appeal really counts though.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    As for the qualifiers you can ask but that does not mean you will not get them all the time.

    It is up to the grader.


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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Plus -- there are some qualifiers that do not go away...things like MK and MC. However, OC qualifier usually should theoretically go away to a lower straight grade-

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  • TexomaTexoma Posts: 179 ✭


    << <i>As for the qualifiers you can ask but that does not mean you will not get them all the time.

    It is up to the grader.


    Steve >>



    Steve--

    Does PSA assign ever assign any qualifiers to hand-cut? Besides (ST)? All I've ever received was a grade with no qualifiers or "Authentic".

    TxO
  • hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    Doesn't it seem weird that if you take a box panel and cut out one of the cards with all four borders (as per the grading standards of PSA) then none of the other three cards will have all their borders left intact?
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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    Hand-cuts receive O/C qualifiers...

    If you pay and request no qualifiers it should be granted regardless of the grader...jmo



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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I've seen O/C qualifiers on some hand-cut cards. Some, like Red Foley, are very small with exceptionally narrow borders, for instance.
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  • bigjacobigjaco Posts: 605
    Based on:



    << <i>*In order for PSA to actually assign a grade to any of the cards that possess visible/defined borders on all four sides, evidence of that border must be present. If the cut exceeds the visible border for the card in question, PSA will encapsulate the card as "Authentic" only. If the card is severely undersized and suffers in overall eye-appeal, the graders may deem the card not suitable for authentication or reject the card as minimum sized altogether >>



    I have yet to see cut 1952 Wheaties cards contain boarders. Does this mean the blue boarder must be intact to receive grades? If so there goes 4 wasted submissions for me.
  • bigjacobigjaco Posts: 605
    found the answer to my own question '52 wheaties don't include the boarder to be a 10. Mile High's catalog has two of them as psa 10 no borders showing. /whew
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    There are quite a few handcut cards that do not have borders. In this case, implied borders are considered as well as the specific measurements of the cards. A simple modern example would be Topps/OPC/Fleer box bottoms that do not have borders but should meet the standard 2 1/2 x 3 1/2 measurement.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Isnt grading a hand cut card akin to grading a trimmed card?
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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Isnt grading a hand cut card akin to grading a trimmed card? >>



    No, because some issues like Hostess, Bazooka, etc were ONLY distributed on boxes and were intended to be hand cut. Very different story with pack-released cards that were trimmed or sheet-cut cards that were intended to be distributed in packs.
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