The OFFICIAL 2009 Allen & Ginter Thread...LET'S SEE SOME RIPS.

alifaxwa2 · July 12, 2009 12:27AM

Wanted: any type/quantity of card #79 Electron

five7teen · July 12, 2009 12:37AM

Finished my "pre-game" 5 boxes last night - not really all that much to report (and worse yet, no scans - sorry guys). Best pull was an Alex Gordon /25 rip card that did yield the Pujols extended mini, so that was good. Two ink sightings, Rich Hill and the Donkey Kong guy, and a couple of handfuls of relics, the best being Ichiro (two of them), a Pujols bat, and a piece of authentic memorabilia of champion swimmer Lynne Cox. Two no number minis (Helton and Milito Navarro - not to be confused with Mike Navarro of CU signed rookie card fame). No silk, no plates, no DNA relics. I think I pulled the standard number of subset cards, and even managed an extra of Nessie.

Is the SP list of 301 - 350 confirmed? I started sorting and in the first hundred I'm missing 16 cards...

onegaucho · July 12, 2009 3:01AM

finally got around to detailing my 1st box break - sorry, no scanner for now:
regular sp (assuming its 301-350): 314,316 rc,317,320,321,326,329,337,341,344,345
code: 118 olsen, 122 willis

mini: 12,26,32,96,96,111,147,269
mini sp: 340
a&g: 5,39,60,82,275
black: 142,290

relics: escobar, laroche
auto: maybin (marlins)
heroes: 3,26,31
myth: 9 minotaur
hoax: 11 wisconsin, 12 lustig

i'd trade for any adrian gonzalez or trevor hoffman mini parallels (all types)

also, i'm wondering if we should track wants/haves on a separate thread - esp for those of us who dont have beckett pages or websites? this thread moves awful fast and is sometimes tough to keep up with what everyone wants/haves
inventions: 1 aeromobile

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 3:06AM

I really suggest a google document to keep up with needs/haves/trades...as seen in my signature line...it's free and easy that way.

Start a new thread if that's what makes it easier for you though.

joestalin · July 12, 2009 3:58AM

two thumbs up for google docs!

mikeschmidt · July 12, 2009 4:09AM

<< two thumbs up for google docs! >>

Agreed*

*[noting my bias]

stormsurge · July 12, 2009 4:27AM

I have this to trade:

Minis - 40, 226, 340

A&G - 128

HHB 2, 8, 15, 18, 20

Grendal

Looking to trade for any Black Minis

stormsurge · July 12, 2009 4:27AM

I had some cards damaged as well and here is the info from Topps on how to get replacements:

"The Topps Company will replace any Topps produced card that is determined to be damaged or defective from any current-year product (only), while supplies last.

A maximum of 25 cards per request is permitted, and each grouping must be accompanied by the following four items: (1) a letter of explanation, (2) copy of receipt from the store in which you purchased the cards, (3) pack wrappers and (4) proof of purchase (UPC code found on the bottom of the box) sent to the following address:

The Topps Company, Inc.
401 York Ave.
Duryea, PA 18642
ATTN: Consumer Relations

Topps strongly recommends sending all replacement requests in a fashion which provides proof of delivery, within padded envelopes or boxes.

Please note that The Topps Company is not responsible for lost, stolen, damaged, delayed, or, misdirected mail.

Replacements for eligible cards will be shipped within 2 to 4 weeks of receipt. Any ineligible cards received (or any cards that Topps is unable to replace, for any reason) will be returned back to the Consumer."

joestalin · July 12, 2009 4:29AM

Has anyone who has opened a case or so organized their base cards yet? I am still wondering what the short prints are. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks
Kevin

HeritageAddict · July 12, 2009 4:42AM

I'm working on that now Kevin, should be done by this evening.

zep33 · July 12, 2009 4:56AM

they're the same as last year 301-350. Same placement in the pack each time too

also 1 or 2 reg minis per box had been short prints just like last year

joestalin · July 12, 2009 5:09AM

It seemed while opening that I didn't pull many Mantles or Phelps. Interested in seeing other peoples numbers....according to my
black minis which I just put in order, the 300's are short...I pulled only 3 blacks in 2 cases!!!

Kevin

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 5:13AM

I pulled 2 Mantles and 2 Phelps base from 2 boxes.

zep33 · July 12, 2009 5:15AM

9 boxes I only got 1 Mantle but at least 5 or 6 Phelps.

I'm 3 base cards short of the set and 5 SPs short

stormsurge · July 12, 2009 5:20AM

I pulled three Phelps from the base set and 1 mantle mini from my case.

joestalin · July 12, 2009 5:39AM

So are the black mini SP's rarer than the no number backs?

zep33 · July 12, 2009 5:45AM

<< So are the black mini SP's rarer than the no number backs? >>

yeah, they actually are

black mini SP 1:130
no number mini 1:95

joestalin · July 12, 2009 5:52AM

no wait, sorry I just thought about it:

Black minis SP's 1:130 but only 50 subjects
No Number minis: 1:95 but 350 subjects.

33250 packs would make the short print blacks have a run of: 255

still pretty short.

Kevin

zep33 · July 12, 2009 5:57AM

gotta be more than 33250 packs, we probably ripped that many in here

that's only 115 cases

and don't forget retail will mess up the count as well

edit -- never mind you're only figuring the shortprints

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 6:18AM

I'll have all of the base and base SPs, as well as mini and regular mini needs and extras updated tomorrow. Everything else is up to date from '06 to '09 on my A&G trade page.

Let me know if you need anything, though I have very little '09 up right now.

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 6:20AM

I also wanted to report my first trade of the season (though it was for '08 cards) with Vintage90Topps. Tim was an excellent trader and was extremely generous to include a 2008 UD POH 500 HR Club Frank Thomas card! Quite a surprise. I'll be sending it off to get signed since UD didn't create a certified auto version for Frank like they did other members.

zep33 · July 12, 2009 6:44AM

box bottom scan to show what is in what group

zep33 · July 12, 2009 7:33AM

Well, just busted my last box for at least a few days. Pretty happy with it although I still don't have a rip card through 10 boxes

got the last 4 highlights cards I needed
2nd to last pack had the last 2 base cards I needed
and the very last pack had the final SP I needed

so it took exactly 10 boxes to produce a master set this year

4 black minis with 1 SP

plus these:

mcadams · July 12, 2009 7:56AM

"so it took exactly 10 boxes to produce a master set this year"

Congrats on finishing up your set and thanks for scanning in the box bottom for those of us who haven't been ripping packs all weekend.

I've been relegated to fishing on Ebay for my insert sets. Among other things, here are 3 A&G deals that I was very proud of: Francouer Auto ($4.99), Juan Rivera Auto ($6.01), and Ervin Santana Auto ($4.80). Hopefully, I can continue to get deals like this so I'll be to afford a Phelps Auto later on :>. From watching the Bay all day, I definitely feel like the Relic cards are going cheaper than expected and the Negro league Autos are commanding quite a premium. Also, the non-sports autos are all getting strong bids.

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 8:16AM

2006 through 2009 Allen & Ginter's Trade Page

magellan · July 12, 2009 8:48AM

Finally back from camp where I ripped the last 2 boxes of my case. 6 relics and nothing else.

Total case breakdown:
5 Autos (all

2 Rips (Wang 2 of 5)
4 NNO
1 Bazooka
1 Print plate
30 Relics (2 A?) Where is Sabathia in the relics, don't see him but I pulled one.
1 Invention
6 Creatures
24 Heroes
25 Hoaxes (if complete at 20, have them all)
31 Black borders inc. 2 SP
62 AG back inc. 5 SP
136 minis inc. 23 SP
25 COde
46 Highlights (missing just #5)
140 SP
0 Silk
0 Extincts

I'm looking for all Red Sox Autos (except Papelbon), NNO, Bazooka, Print plates, Silks, & Rip cards. Have quite a bit to trade as I'll be doing the master with regular minis , no AG or black borders.

I also have a retail, blaster, & jumbo case still coming so will hold off on trading minis for now.

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 9:06AM

Looking at the Teixeira extended mini that is about to end on ebay...I think I may have listed mine for too long and with the wrong title. I had it with a BIN of $65 and starting bid of $9.99...idiot of me. Went against my listing rule. After 4+ days, it's at the opening bid and the one that ends in 2 hours is at $50+.

matthewbschultz83 · July 12, 2009 9:46AM

Speaking of Autograph Group A....

All of the cards in the scan are for trade (hear that Zep??).

My other GU was a Fred Lewis Bat.

12 SPs
13 Base Minis (2 SPs)
5 A&G Back Minis
3 Black Bordered Minis (Ibanez, Ordonez, K-Rod)
3 World's Greatest Hoaxes
2 National Heroes Minis
1 Numbered Mini (DeJesus, pictured)

4 Dick Perez cards
2 Code cards

Pretty pleased, proabably pick up another 2-3 boxes.

Is there one code card for each 330 in the base set? How are these numbered?

zep33 · July 12, 2009 9:48AM

I want the Ortiz!!!

matthewbschultz83 · July 12, 2009 9:50AM

who?

matthewbschultz83 · July 12, 2009 9:57AM

Zep PM sent.

mealeworm · July 12, 2009 10:10AM

My page is current. Someone please take those relics and auto's off my hands. Not to mention alot of AG backs.

Dave

gumbyfan · July 12, 2009 11:04AM

<< Is there one code card for each 330 in the base set? How are these numbered? >>

Here's the list of the 100 code cards that I've come up with based on what's for sale on ebay:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 50, 52, 59, 62, 63, 67, 69, 70, 73, 77, 78, 84, 91, 94, 99, 100, 103, 106, 110, 113, 115, 118, 121, 122, 123, 127, 129, 131, 134, 135, 138, 141, 144, 147, 148, 150, 154, 159, 163, 165, 166, 167, 169, 170, 174, 175, 179, 180, 182, 184, 185, 187, 189, 191, 193, 196, 198, 200, 204, 205, 206, 207, 210, 215, 217, 221, 222, 223, 227, 229, 230, 233, 236, 242, 245, 254, 256, 261, 262, 267, 268, 271, 274, 275, 281, 283, 286, 288, 293, 296, 300

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 11:10AM

Well, the first Tex sold for $67, so my BIN of $65 was spot on. Wish I would have just made it a BIN auction.

tsalems1 · July 12, 2009 11:36AM

<< no wait, sorry I just thought about it:

Black minis SP's 1:130 but only 50 subjects
No Number minis: 1:95 but 350 subjects.

33250 packs would make the short print blacks have a run of: 255

still pretty short.

Kevin >>

I think I was the 1st to sell a complete 2006 allen ginter black mini set on ebay back in 2006.
Set sold for $1000.00
That set was not easy to make!

Ahzzy · July 12, 2009 1:17PM

Congrats on completing the set. $1,000 seems a bit low though. Weren't you originally asking like $15,000 or was that a different set?

tsalems1 · July 12, 2009 1:22PM

I was happy with $1000 for the black mini set.
Im 3 cards shy of completing the no number set from 2006.
Still need Utley, Abreu and Nathan.
Never had anything priced at $15k

fur72 · July 12, 2009 1:31PM

Ahh what a day. Cubbies split with the Cards and I have 1000 A&G left to sort. I hope to get my trade list up early this week.

Anyone spot any blasters yet?

BunchOBull · July 12, 2009 1:32PM

<< Ahh what a day. Cubbies split with the Cards and I have 1000 A&G left to sort. I hope to get my trade list up early this week.

Anyone spot any blasters yet? >>

Went to Target today...nothing. No "future releases" posted either.

Ahzzy · July 12, 2009 4:26PM

Going to check the local Target and Fred Meyer tomorrow. Being on the west coast I don't have high hopes. It will probably be another week or so until they start hitting our stores.

joestalin · July 12, 2009 5:20PM

I can't see how retail at 72 per can even touch hobby for 8-10 bucks more. Blasters have only 8 packs in them so they really don't owe you
anything, relics are 1:17, maybe even more for retail. Anyone been watching prices...what is a hobby case up to?

Kevin

BunchOBull · July 13, 2009 1:55AM

6 boxes on a truck within miles of my apartment...I can't wait...break to come shortly.

cwazzy · July 13, 2009 2:05AM

Good luck, Ross! I'm predicting a cut or DNA relic in your boxes.

BunchOBull · July 13, 2009 2:06AM

<< Good luck, Ross! I'm predicting a cut or DNA relic in your boxes.

>>

I like where your head's at.

prscott933 · July 13, 2009 2:13AM

there's at least one cut and two rip cards in there! good luck ross!

cwazzy · July 13, 2009 2:39AM

Dang, Ross. You must have the slowest delivery driver in history!

Good luck!

HeritageAddict · July 13, 2009 2:40AM

I'll go with two cuts and one rip for your boxes.

joestalin · July 13, 2009 2:42AM

double rip and one Pujols bazooka back

Kevin

cwazzy · July 13, 2009 2:49AM

1 rip, a cut, and a Mantle wood.

BunchOBull · July 13, 2009 2:53AM

All of these will be acceptable.

Waiting is killing me. I would like to pull a 1 of 1 that isn't a plate once in my life...I know this much.

The OFFICIAL 2009 Allen &amp; Ginter Thread...LET'S SEE SOME RIPS.

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The OFFICIAL 2009 Allen & Ginter Thread...LET'S SEE SOME RIPS.