Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."
---Gospel of Thomas (Lamdin translation)
Personally, I won't block you and think that that many negs/nuetrals is a drop of water in the bath tub. Insignificant with the amount of business you do. Not defending the OP directly as he did come off pretty strong and the explanation was a bit lame.
Sounds like to me that the OP just got pi$$ed due to the nuetral. Hey, it happens. I haven't had one yet or a neg yet so can't say how I'll feel, but I don't think I'll tell all the forum members my problems.
bob
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<< <i>man I sure get tired of having to defend myself on here.
as I said before the buyer NEVER ASKED TO RETURN THE ITEMS
NEVER ASKED IF HE COULD EXCHANGE THE ITEMS.
ALL THE TIME E-MAILING ME SAYING OUR QUALITY WAS NO GOOD. >>
I would have asked the buyer if he wanted to return the item but thats just me.
I certainly won't criticize you for your posting capabilities but providing all the necessary information is an absolute must if you want to get support from the forums. I save each thread regarding "blocking" ebay folks so I at least no why I've blocked them.
BTW, I've purchased from you in the past and have no problem with your listings. I even have you in my favorite sellers.
My best advice is to not take your eBay ire out on the forum members that prod you for more information. We will support you but you have to have a valid case to support. The only way for us to determine this is by the facts that YOU present couple with our own investigations.
Yes it sucks that a buyer negs you but 9 out of 10 times this stuff can be worked out and a reasonable seller would make every effort to communicate with his/her buyers before coming to the forums for support.
It does not appear that this is what transpired with this particular thread.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Personally, I won't block you and think that that many negs/nuetrals is a drop of water in the bath tub. Insignificant with the amount of business you do. Not defending the OP directly as he did come off pretty strong and the explanation was a bit lame.
Sounds like to me that the OP just got pi$$ed due to the nuetral. Hey, it happens. I haven't had one yet or a neg yet so can't say how I'll feel, but I don't think I'll tell all the forum members my problems.
bob >>
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
<< <i>I thought if anywhere people could look past the few neg's and see all the positives it would be on this forum
but I guess not......whatever
I have been in business for 20+ years.......I don't exactly like to poop on my customers.
time for a beer. >>
For me, at least, it isn't the "few negs and all the positives"....I take things on a case by case basis, so a few negs isn't a deal killer. Attitude is though, and you are displaying a lot of it in lashing out at folks, tonight.
That doesn't make for a seller I want to deal with, sorry.
As for "updating" your auctions for a return policy.....how long have you left it like it is? Why changing it so late? Don't get me wrong, I applaud you for changing/updating it so it is better for you and your bidders, just wondering why you left it so empty for so long.....
this thread is one example of why I come around here less than I used to when I first started off
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy it, but unfortunately right now we have more of this crap than actual coins. Here's hoping the balance tilts in the other direction soon!
<< <i>I thought if anywhere people could look past the few neg's and see all the positives it would be on this forum
but I guess not......whatever
I have been in business for 20+ years.......I don't exactly like to poop on my customers.
time for a beer. >>
the lack of info and the pi$$ed-offed-ness got this thread started on the wrong foot before enough info was out there about your feedback. Now 19Lyds supports your feedback.
Sounds like it might be your run of the mill whiner customer... eh. If the person doesn't want a return/exchange but just complains... what good is that, either?
At least it was a neutral.
What estimate for a grade would you give them? i.e. how far from VF?
<< <i>sorry I don't have time to read through 4 pages of this, but to the OP, what is your ebay handle? >>
Don't worry...you didn't miss anything...
I just wasted another period of time in my life that I can never get back....
These forums need to isolate ALL ebay threads to their own forum... my opinion and I'm sticking to it...
This forum belongs to CU and they can allow whatever they wish to allow...
Why they allow these whine threads and then let folks get in a tizzy over ebay crap is beyond me... yet folks like Mark Feld get banned and LeeJ is made to feel not welcome... It says "US Coin Forum"... yet I seriously wonder sometimes...
Reminder to self... never open another thread about ebay on the US Coin Forum...
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
A good friend of mine, who has been in many public oriented business...such as food service, furniture sales, credit card service.......told me once that Five percent of all the people you will ever meet or deal with are Crazy.
<< <i>A good friend of mine, who has been in many public oriented business...such as food service, furniture sales, credit card service.......told me once that Five percent of all the people you will ever meet or deal with are Crazy.
I tend to agree. >>
God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy!!
Let's see... the OP has over 15,000 ebay transactions with a 98% positive... got 3 neutrals from the buyer he wants everyone to block... on neutral from another buyer and three negatives... one of the negatives is about a broken box damaged in shipping... another is a bidder who claims he bid by mistake and the OP would not let him out. Seller has >98% positive feedback on over 15,000 transactions, so he must be doing something right. The buyer also has a good feedback rating, so again, he can't be all that bad.
First, with respect to the neutreals, its unfortunate, but when you sell as much as the OP does you are going to end up dealing with someone with unrealistic expectations. I checked the buyer's (bruno1992) feedback left for others. For the most part, he's not very verbose... typical feedback is "thanks". He's only left a few neutrals and one or two negatives from what I saw. Doesn't exactly strike me as unreasonable.
In re the one neg the OP received re the damaged box, that is unfortunate and I can understand if the OP was bothered by that. The neg from the bidder who wanted out? Well, my experience is that when someone contacted me and claimed a mistake and wanted out, I let them out. Its not worth the negative that I was sure I would have gotten had I been stubborn. The way I see it, the OP should have expected it for making the guy go through with the auction. Buyers can trash a seller's reputation very easily and under the new feedback rules, sellers are powerless to smack these arrogant buyers. It just wasn't worth it to do it and OP should have let that guy walk.
I actually feel for the OP here. I understand his frustration. I also understand the frustration that he feels from the responses he got on this thread. (Been there myself.) Did he overreact with the BLOCK THIS BUYER! thread? Maybe. Have some of the responses on this thread been a little to much? Yup.
I've quit blocking people on the recommendations of others. I've figured out that I can complete successful transactions with buyers other people have trouble with. Some of the old blocked bidders contact me occasionally, I unblock them, they buy. Simple as that. --Jerry
<< <i>I've quit blocking people on the recommendations of others. I've figured out that I can complete successful transactions with buyers other people have trouble with. Some of the old blocked bidders contact me occasionally, I unblock them, they buy. Simple as that. --Jerry >>
Smoetimes I can agree with Jerry. This is one of those moments!
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I checked the feedback left by buyer - they like to leave neutrals and negatives - I doubt if 10% of their transactions have problems unless they helped cause some
<< <i>I checked the feedback left by buyer - they like to leave neutrals and negatives - I doubt if 10% of their transactions have problems unless they helped cause some >>
That's what made me make my decision to block him.
<<<< I checked the feedback left by buyer - they like to leave neutrals and negatives - I doubt if 10% of their transactions have problems unless they helped cause some >>
That's what made me make my decision to block him. >>
My gosh, after all this talk, there is a move on to block the original buyer as per the o.p.
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Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."
---Gospel of Thomas (Lamdin translation)
Insignificant with the amount of business you do.
Not defending the OP directly as he did come off pretty strong and the explanation was a bit lame.
Sounds like to me that the OP just got pi$$ed due to the nuetral. Hey, it happens. I haven't had one
yet or a neg yet so can't say how I'll feel, but I don't think I'll tell all the forum members my problems.
bob
<< <i>man I sure get tired of having to defend myself on here.
as I said before the buyer NEVER ASKED TO RETURN THE ITEMS
NEVER ASKED IF HE COULD EXCHANGE THE ITEMS.
ALL THE TIME E-MAILING ME SAYING OUR QUALITY WAS NO GOOD. >>
I would have asked the buyer if he wanted to return the item but thats just me.
I certainly won't criticize you for your posting capabilities but providing all the necessary information is an absolute must if you want to get support from the forums. I save each thread regarding "blocking" ebay folks so I at least no why I've blocked them.
BTW, I've purchased from you in the past and have no problem with your listings. I even have you in my favorite sellers.
My best advice is to not take your eBay ire out on the forum members that prod you for more information. We will support you but you have to have a valid case to support. The only way for us to determine this is by the facts that YOU present couple with our own investigations.
Yes it sucks that a buyer negs you but 9 out of 10 times this stuff can be worked out and a reasonable seller would make every effort to communicate with his/her buyers before coming to the forums for support.
It does not appear that this is what transpired with this particular thread.
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<< <i>Personally, I won't block you and think that that many negs/nuetrals is a drop of water in the bath tub.
Insignificant with the amount of business you do.
Not defending the OP directly as he did come off pretty strong and the explanation was a bit lame.
Sounds like to me that the OP just got pi$$ed due to the nuetral. Hey, it happens. I haven't had one
yet or a neg yet so can't say how I'll feel, but I don't think I'll tell all the forum members my problems.
bob >>
I thought if anywhere people could look past the few neg's and see all the positives it would be on this forum
but I guess not......whatever
I have been in business for 20+ years.......I don't exactly like to poop on my customers.
time for a beer.
<< <i>I thought if anywhere people could look past the few neg's and see all the positives it would be on this forum
but I guess not......whatever
I have been in business for 20+ years.......I don't exactly like to poop on my customers.
time for a beer. >>
For me, at least, it isn't the "few negs and all the positives"....I take things on a case by case basis, so a few negs isn't a deal killer.
Attitude is though, and you are displaying a lot of it in lashing out at folks, tonight.
That doesn't make for a seller I want to deal with, sorry.
As for "updating" your auctions for a return policy.....how long have you left it like it is? Why changing it so late? Don't get me wrong, I applaud you for changing/updating it so it is better for you and your bidders, just wondering why you left it so empty for so long.....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy it, but unfortunately right now we have more of this crap
than actual coins. Here's hoping the balance tilts in the other direction soon!
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<< <i>I thought if anywhere people could look past the few neg's and see all the positives it would be on this forum
but I guess not......whatever
I have been in business for 20+ years.......I don't exactly like to poop on my customers.
time for a beer. >>
the lack of info and the pi$$ed-offed-ness got this thread started on the wrong foot before enough info was out there about your feedback. Now 19Lyds supports your feedback.
Sounds like it might be your run of the mill whiner customer... eh. If the person doesn't want a return/exchange but just complains... what good is that, either?
At least it was a neutral.
What estimate for a grade would you give them? i.e. how far from VF?
<< <i>Can I borrow someone's popcorn emocon?
Here's another:
- Jim
Coins-n-Cards
<< <i>I hand picked the rolls and filled the order myself/
. >>
A "hand picked" roll is not an "original" roll as described in your auction.
<< <i>sorry I don't have time to read through 4 pages of this, but to the OP, what is your ebay handle? >>
Don't worry...you didn't miss anything...
I just wasted another period of time in my life that I can never get back....
These forums need to isolate ALL ebay threads to their own forum... my opinion and I'm sticking to it...
This forum belongs to CU and they can allow whatever they wish to allow...
Why they allow these whine threads and then let folks get in a tizzy over ebay crap is beyond me... yet folks like Mark Feld get banned and LeeJ is made to feel not welcome... It says "US Coin Forum"... yet I seriously wonder sometimes...
Reminder to self... never open another thread about ebay on the US Coin Forum...
I tend to agree.
This is a Gross understatement!
I'll take the Over.
<< <i>A good friend of mine, who has been in many public oriented business...such as food service, furniture sales, credit card service.......told me once that Five percent of all the people you will ever meet or deal with are Crazy.
I tend to agree. >>
God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy!!
AMEN!
First, with respect to the neutreals, its unfortunate, but when you sell as much as the OP does you are going to end up dealing with someone with unrealistic expectations. I checked the buyer's (bruno1992) feedback left for others. For the most part, he's not very verbose... typical feedback is "thanks". He's only left a few neutrals and one or two negatives from what I saw. Doesn't exactly strike me as unreasonable.
In re the one neg the OP received re the damaged box, that is unfortunate and I can understand if the OP was bothered by that. The neg from the bidder who wanted out? Well, my experience is that when someone contacted me and claimed a mistake and wanted out, I let them out. Its not worth the negative that I was sure I would have gotten had I been stubborn. The way I see it, the OP should have expected it for making the guy go through with the auction. Buyers can trash a seller's reputation very easily and under the new feedback rules, sellers are powerless to smack these arrogant buyers. It just wasn't worth it to do it and OP should have let that guy walk.
I actually feel for the OP here. I understand his frustration. I also understand the frustration that he feels from the responses he got on this thread. (Been there myself.) Did he overreact with the BLOCK THIS BUYER! thread? Maybe. Have some of the responses on this thread been a little to much? Yup.
Let's cut this guy some slack.
<< <i>Can I borrow someone's popcorn emocon?
edited to say: thanks soty
thanks thisnamztaken
or
Did someone throw a bucket of Chum into the water ?
Yea, look at all those happy buyers...
<< <i>An explanation would be nice. Especially when the [buyer] has 100% feedback the last 12 months. >>
Remember, sellers can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback so all buyers will soon have 100% feedback. --Jerry
<< <i><< Five percent of all the people you will ever meet or deal with are Crazy. >>
This is a Gross understatement!
I'll take the Over.
I'd say that not so many are crazy, but a lot are just plain jerks.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
<< <i>is he really the worst ever? >>
I doubt it!
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Can the program that searches negs also search feedack left by a buyer?
It might change smoe opinions of OP if buyers feedback left for others is cheked.
Joe
<< <i>
<< <i>Can I borrow someone's popcorn emocon?
thanks thisnamztaken
You're welcome, garsmith, but I think it's a Diet Rite cola.
- Jim
<< <i>I've quit blocking people on the recommendations of others. I've figured out that I can complete successful transactions with buyers other people have trouble with. Some of the old blocked bidders contact me occasionally, I unblock them, they buy. Simple as that. --Jerry >>
Smoetimes I can agree with Jerry. This is one of those moments!
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<< <i>
<< <i>An explanation would be nice. Especially when the [buyer] has 100% feedback the last 12 months. >>
Remember, sellers can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback so all buyers will soon have 100% feedback. --Jerry >>
If the buyer is also a seller, he can be negged.
Me also thinks the buyer had the shorter fuse.
Leo
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My Jefferson Nickel Collection
I will say I'm sorry I should have given more info up front on the details of this situation.
it would have made things easier. thanks to 19lyds for your post. I imagine you bought
a rolls of Ike dollars from us.
chris
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
<< <i>I checked the feedback left by buyer - they like to leave neutrals and negatives - I doubt if 10% of their transactions have problems unless they helped cause some >>
That's what made me make my decision to block him.
It has been measured and has been found wanting.
Blocking by Forum sellers are in the main, reserved for
scoundrels, cheats, as well as individuals that are
unscrupulous. Merely difficult does not generally apply.
Camelot
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
That's what made me make my decision to block him. >>
My gosh, after all this talk, there is a move on to block the original buyer as per the o.p.
WINNERS......WHINERS......and WIENERS!
Camelot
Camelot
10% negs and neutrals is ridiculous.
This is a buyer gone astray, now what was his ID so I can block them??
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