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Yet another type B question!?
RunnersDad
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Even after looking at the many posts regarding the type B reverse I am still having some trouble distinguishing between an A and B. Is there one thing inparticular that I can look for that will be instantly distinctive between the 2 reverse types?
Mike
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The top of the M of UNUM brackets IB of PLURIBUS just above it.
The leaf touching the arrowhead points now juts above them.
The top and bottom arrowhead barbs are apparently missing (they are still there but overwhelmed by the field deeping there)
The stem end is parallel to the T of Quarter rather than angling upward
The leaf by A of DOLLAR is connected by a solid bridge. The leaf on "A" is very faint and does not connect.
<< <i>The ES separation in STATES is greater
The top of the M of UNUM brackets IB of PLURIBUS just above it.
The leaf touching the arrowhead points now juts above them.
The top and bottom arrowhead barbs are apparently missing (they are still there but overwhelmed by the field deeping there)
The stem end is parallel to the T of Quarter rather than angling upward
The leaf by A of DOLLAR is connected by a solid bridge. The leaf on "A" is very faint and does not connect. >>
Thanks Again!
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Too bad, they got them wrong later in the listings of each date.
To the OP:
Regarding the 1956-1964 Type B, the advice given by Ken & Mark and Art is very sound, indeed!
Just study a Proof's Reverse and note how BOLD the vine is and it's "properties".
After studying Proof Reverses for a while there can be NO MISTAKING a Type B, especially with ALL that's been written above, by the aforementioned!
Good Luck & Happy hunting.
<< Comments: See the detailed comparsion pictures on page 152>>
Excellent advice since the first picture shown from 1958 (page 158 CPG 4th ed vol II) is a type C and not a type B. Page 152 has it right.
Also type B was not used in 1936 and most 1968 S proofs are not type B.
If and when I DO ever buy one`I'll take another, more accurate picture.
To the best of my knowledge, I believe the Type B were minted 1956 trough 1964.
I am referring to the Silver, PRE 1965 specimen ONLY!
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On the above picture, the ES is correct but the Leaf/Arrowheads are a Type A and yes the CPG has it all screwed up!
Below is what I can eyeball pretty quickly in hand. A photograph can make that Type B Leaf above the Arrowhead a little difficult to see though.
The gap between E and S is a backup for when the leaf above the arrows is difficult to see.
The name is LEE!
Everyone can clearly see the differences in 19Lyds' pictures.
Note that there is no gap AND note the leaves under the perch.
See how very close they are to it (the perch)?
Sorry, Lee, your first illustration is Type C. Your second illustration is type A. I will comment some more later. It turns out this is a good area to determine if it is an A, B, C, or one of my clad M's. I just realized some of this last night.
However note the leaf beneath and just to the right of the arrowpoints is closer to the arrow shafts on this type C. It rises above the bottom of the arrow barb.
In Lee's second picture, The leaves, etc. are less distinct. The leaf underneath the bottom arrow barb does not reach the level of the barb.
I consider the (above barb level), (below barb level) a foolproof test for type C versus type A.
I think somebody on this forum has pointed out this leaf before, but I missed that difference in the levels connection.
It is not included in the picture, but the leaf just to the right and touching the last tail feather rises above the bottom of the tailfeather only on type C.
edited to add final period (.).