How did this SLQ get a 66?

rld14 · April 16, 2009 1:30PM

PCGS MS66 1928-S SLQ

Seems to be a bit banged up for a 66..

I do find the reverse interesting though... notice the polish marks (Probably to clean up a die cleash) and there's still clash marks showing, maybe the dies were cleaned up and clashed again?

gecko109 · April 16, 2009 1:36PM

Certainly a horsechit strike to be a 66. I'd like to see a bit more detail in a $750 SLQ personally.

pennyannie · April 16, 2009 1:38PM

I just wish one time i could get the coins i submitt overgraded. But it seems everytime i submitt i get mr. harda$$ to grade my stuff.

I have a friend (young man of 20) that went to work for NGC about 2 years ago for a summer intern type job. He stayed. Within weeks of being there he was already grading silver ASE's and other moderns. Maybe they let him grade the SLQ in question

GoldenEyeNumismatics · April 16, 2009 1:41PM

when you blow up an image to the size of the entire monitor, it's natural for the contact marks to look a little more severe. In reality, I bet that piece looks almost entirely mark free.

Gecko: the strike actually isn't too bad. If it was sharply struck, it would be FH, and worth much more.

rld14 · April 16, 2009 1:44PM

Some of you know that I hoard the snot out of 28-Ss, it's not a bad strike for a 28-S, I certainly have worse ones, but the hits just seem a tad excessive for the grade. It's the polish marks and the clash that had me a bit intrigued, it's a die state I don't have

stinkinlincoln · April 16, 2009 2:11PM

Im no expert in this series, but I have seen alot worse. Other than the mentioned striking issues, I find it to be a pleasing coin. Maybe in a 65 holder though.

commoncents05 · April 16, 2009 2:16PM

As GEN mentioned, when you get a photo large enough, even the nicest coins will looks like crap. I think it would be a fine coin and I don't see anything that outright knocks it out of a 66 holder.

-Paul

crazyhounddog · April 16, 2009 2:18PM

This coin is at least a 66 in my book!! You can not grade a coin just on the strike! This coin looks as if it just came off the die!! It also has the flash and the luster of a very high grade! IMO

WoodenJefferson · April 16, 2009 2:29PM

1.) San Francisco Mint +
2.) Late Die State +
3.) Polish Lines +
4.) Images the size of a salad plate +

= As struck, possible MS-66 all day long.

crazyhounddog · April 16, 2009 2:38PM

<< 1.) San Francisco Mint +
2.) Late Die State +
3.) Polish Lines +
4.) Images the size of a salad plate +

= As struck, possible MS-66 all day long. >>

The salad plate thing is funny..............

Broadstruck · April 16, 2009 3:39PM

<< 

<< 1.) San Francisco Mint +
2.) Late Die State +
3.) Polish Lines +
4.) Images the size of a salad plate +

= As struck, possible MS-66 all day long. >>

The salad plate thing is funny.............. >>

It's more like a dinner plate on my monitor

Does my AU58 become a AU67 as a salad plate

WoodenJefferson · April 16, 2009 5:05PM

1. Bread & butter plate,
Smallest size plate of a place setting ranging from 5 3/4" to 6 1/2" diameter.

2. Tea / dessert plate,
Non standard place setting item. Sizes range from 6 3/4" to 7 1/2" diameter.

3. Salad plate,
Middle size plate of a place setting ranging from 7 3/4" to 8 1/2" diameter.

4. Luncheon plate,
non standard place setting item. Sizes range from 8 3/4" to 9 1/2" diameter.

5. Dinner plate,
Largest size plate of a place setting ranging from 9 3/4" to 11" diameter.

Well I’ll be darned, the auction SLQ image on my screen is 9” in diameter, so it’s the size of a Luncheon plate, 8 ¾” to 9 ½” diameter. So, no, your AU-58 will have to remain below the 60’s grade because it is only 8“ in diameter, the regular garden variety salad plate diameter…sorry.

thisnamztaken · April 16, 2009 5:30PM

<< Does my AU58 become a AU67 as a salad plate

>>

If I were just looking for a SLQ for a type coin, I'd take your nicely struck, fairly priced, very tough date, 1920-D, AU 58 over that $750.00, high-luster, MS66 with its incused head and missing shield dots every time.

ArizonaJack · April 16, 2009 6:19PM

Strike aside, the series of hits along the legs throw me off.

Bear · April 16, 2009 6:27PM

The nicks on the leg can be easily explained.

Ms Liberty was shaving her legs and got a bit

carried away. The nicks will heal and all will be well.

Broadstruck · April 16, 2009 9:18PM

<< 1. Bread & butter plate,
Smallest size plate of a place setting ranging from 5 3/4" to 6 1/2" diameter.

2. Tea / dessert plate,
Non standard place setting item. Sizes range from 6 3/4" to 7 1/2" diameter.

3. Salad plate,
Middle size plate of a place setting ranging from 7 3/4" to 8 1/2" diameter.

4. Luncheon plate,
non standard place setting item. Sizes range from 8 3/4" to 9 1/2" diameter.

5. Dinner plate,
Largest size plate of a place setting ranging from 9 3/4" to 11" diameter.

Well I’ll be darned, the auction SLQ image on my screen is 9” in diameter, so it’s the size of a Luncheon plate, 8 ¾” to 9 ½” diameter. So, no, your AU-58 will have to remain below the 60’s grade because it is only 8“ in diameter, the regular garden variety salad plate diameter…sorry. >>

WoodenJefferson, can you supply dimensions of Salad, Dinner, and Shrimp forks...

As then this SLQ thread would also become a full lesson in proper eating etiquette!

dorkkarl · April 16, 2009 10:45PM

<< PCGS MS66 1928-S SLQ

Seems to be a bit banged up for a 66.. >>

why would you expect "66" not to have any marks on it? 66 does not = "perfect"

however the strike sucks , which is usual for that issue. i'd question the grade more for strike then for the hits.

K S

IrishMike · April 16, 2009 10:51PM

The marks are fine for the grade, the strike isn't. I would only guess that they gave extra points for the luster.

MFH · April 17, 2009 1:38AM

That 28-S is a solid 66 IMHO - but as ThisNamzTaken mentioned - I'd rather have Broadstruck's AU"67" 1920-D.

I've dealt with enough SLQ's to realize that not all SLQ's in 66 are equal - last month there must have been a
couple of rolls of them being auctioned in PCGS 66 FH. Someone must have had a huge hoard of them.

Here's the old seller's image I kept of my 28-S in 65FH - sorry for the poor quality of the image.

veryfine · April 17, 2009 2:20AM

<< when you blow up an image to the size of the entire monitor, it's natural for the contact marks to look a little more severe. In reality, I bet that piece looks almost entirely mark free. >>

Yes GoldenEye,
I wish more people understood this point when grading from enlarged images.

disruptek · April 22, 2009 10:14AM

There was a group of these sold in a Stacks sale recently. We went after a few of them that we felt were high-end for the grade, and this is one. All the coins in the group were fairly clean and super flashy.

tahoe98 · April 23, 2009 1:56AM

.........i predict CAC would frown on this coin.

How did this SLQ get a 66?

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