Update - the guy (Brett Turcotte) who kept my 48 Leaf and 61 Fleer Bednarik cards wrote to me

TNP777 · April 4, 2009 12:26PM

This has the makings of one of the famous CU full-on investigations that results in the total exposure and humiliation of another tool in the card community. Where're Perry & Bill?

storm888 · April 4, 2009 12:30PM

<< This has the makings of one of the famous CU full-on investigations that results in the total exposure and humiliation of another tool in the card community. Where're Perry & Bill? >>

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Yup.

I need a FULL header from one of the emails.

nightcrawler · April 4, 2009 12:35PM

Make that three addresses.

BunchOBull · April 4, 2009 12:36PM

I'm curious to see a full header as well, but I think we'll find Sunnyvale, CA to be the location.

TNP777 · April 4, 2009 12:41PM

Why is that, Ross?

BunchOBull · April 4, 2009 12:47PM

I had a coworker who was being watched, but both she and her family were being taunted with emails as well.

It was a Yahoo account...without a contact within their system, it's pretty hard to obtain an IP for an individual user's internet connection...everything is looped back to home base.

nightcrawler · April 4, 2009 12:49PM

<< but I think we'll find Sunnyvale, CA to be the location. >>

I saw that, but thought it might just be the server base, or whatever storm said about yahoo.com addresses.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 12:58PM

Fun software...........

tracker

To understand the mechanics of the stuff, click the link
in the 2nd paragraph that says "How To Track emails."

..............

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 12:58PM

I think whoever emailed you does not have the cards and is just playing you.

If it was me I'd let Mr. Bednarik know what he did, maybe he can contact the person he
sent it to?

Steve

Ahmanfan · April 4, 2009 1:00PM

The person is just Bsing you I think.
John

gregm13 · April 4, 2009 1:01PM

Here is the full header.

Chuck Bednarik Cards
Saturday, April 4, 2009 7:26 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "Brett Turcotte" <autographguy1234@yahoo.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To: gregm13@yahoo.com

Greg m.

BunchOBull · April 4, 2009 1:02PM

I'll take a look at the site here in a minute, but I pinged the email address earlier and it was just bouncing back and forth between Stamford and Sunnyvale.

OAKESY25 · April 4, 2009 1:04PM

that name sounds very familiar to me as well...

I doubt it is the famous athlete.. he would not need to rob someone else's card..
he could afford to buy his own..
this is just a dirtbag with no heart.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:05PM

Greg this person IMO does not have your cards. The person that does have them
is going to keep his mouth shut if he wants to keep them. No one in their right mind
would do what this guy is doing. He is simply rubbing salt in your wounds.

I'm sorry

Steve

Robb · April 4, 2009 1:17PM

You guys are being trolled so hard.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:19PM

<< You guys are being trolled so hard. >>

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I think so, too.

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Greg:

Follow these instructions to turn on the FULL HEADER in your email client.

instructions

After you get that, cut and paste the FULL hdr.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:23PM

Greg:

A FULL HEADER looks like this...........

-----------------------Example Full Header Below----------------------------

Return-Path: <DUCKWARE@oregon.uoregon.edui>
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by shaney.uoregon.edui (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id
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nightcrawler · April 4, 2009 1:26PM

There's a good chance that's true about being trolled.

But I feel like the wording of the email almosts fits the kind of guy that deleted his post on the other board. Maybe he feels like he's being exposed as a thief, and wanted to throw his doubt on who owns the cards, and the legal 9/10s BS just to start a defence. I've seen so many of that type of slimbag.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:30PM

The other post on the other board was that posted before or after Greg
announced that he was missing 2 cards?

Steve

mike92694 · April 4, 2009 1:32PM

I expect a few harsh words from the forum administrators regarding this thread, and not necessarily to the person who we don't like.

Let's try to keep this civilized. Nobody has been proven guilty of anything yet.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:34PM

Greg:

When you figure out how to paste the FULL HEADER,
we will at least know where the email came from.

We may even know who sent it.

If it's a troll/prankster, he should get some fun presents.

Can't do anything w/o the FULL header.

gregm13 · April 4, 2009 1:36PM

<< The other post on the other board was that posted before or after Greg
announced that he was missing 2 cards?

Steve >>

Steve,

I posted that I was missing the cards on the evening of 4/2 and the other member posted the next morning (the morning of 4/3) that he received the extra cards and then removed his post ~ 12 hours later. I think the guy saw my comment and deleted his post to hide his identity.

Who really knows.

Rgs,

Greg M.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:36PM

<< I expect a few harsh words from the forum administrators regarding this thread, and not necessarily to the person who we don't like.............. >>

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Could be so.

Since the cards were going to be submitted to PSA/DNA,
the story of their being purloined is certainly on topic, though.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:37PM

lol Mike I agree, we should keep it civil, however the person ADMITTED to the crime.

Steve

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:38PM

Greg

So even that does not prove that he has them. My point was if he posted first then
it is possible he has them. He most likely read your post and began his charade from that point.

I doubt he has your cards.

Steve

gregm13 · April 4, 2009 1:39PM

<< I expect a few harsh words from the forum administrators regarding this thread, and not necessarily to the person who we don't like.

Let's try to keep this civilized. Nobody has been proven guilty of anything yet. >>

Good point. We'll likely never know what really happened.

Rgs,

Greg M.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:40PM

Does someone that admits to a crime need to be proved guilty?

Steve

mike92694 · April 4, 2009 1:42PM

<< lol Mike I agree, we should keep it civil, however the person ADMITTED to the crime.

Steve >>

I can't believe you agree.

But, to clarify, a person admitted to the crime. Not necessarily the one we are looking for.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:44PM

Ok I disagree.

Steve

gregm13 · April 4, 2009 1:45PM

<< 

<< lol Mike I agree, we should keep it civil, however the person ADMITTED to the crime.

Steve >>

I can't believe you agree.

But, to clarify, a person admitted to the crime. Not necessarily the one we are looking for. >>

Mike,

The pig in your avatar is really freaking me out...

Greg M.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:45PM

<< Does someone that admits to a crime need to be proved guilty?

Steve >>

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Here, the alleged perp - spoofer - admits to having committed an
act that he contends is neither a crime nor a tortious act.

The OP would need to prove, by a tiny margin in small claims, that
the act was tortious.

If the email was genuine, the "proof" is a slam dunk.

Robb · April 4, 2009 1:45PM

I think some of you are mixing laws with morals.

brianwintersfan · April 4, 2009 1:49PM

From Brett Turcotte Sun Apr 5 02:35:48 2009
Return-Path: <autographguy1234@yahoo.com>
Authentication-Results: mta150.mail.ac4.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=pass (ok); from=yahoo.com; dkim=pass (ok)
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:35:48 -0700 (PDT)
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storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:50PM

<< I think some of you are mixing laws with morals. >>

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If the email is genuine and was sent by the recipient of the purloined letter,
the guy has no "morals."

His conduct gives rise to a civil action to recover the merch.

..........

Though I still can't get by the fact that NOBODY who actually had the
cards would send such an email.

brianwintersfan · April 4, 2009 1:51PM

Here is the response I got from him:

Uh oh. I have been harassed over email. Guess I better do what the big bad emailer says. Since a complete stranger has vouched for this idiot over email, it all must be true!
Listen you a**bag, you get a life. I am not going to be scammed out of something I was sent as a gift by somebody I wrote. The scan he sent me does not match the card I have.
Tell you what, when I put this card up for auction, you and your buddies can get together a pool and bid on it for your friend if he wants one so badly. If you email me again, I
will report you for harassment and have your account shut down.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:55PM

Is this our daily train wreck?

Steve

brianwintersfan · April 4, 2009 1:56PM

<< Is this our daily train wreck?

Steve >>

BunchOBull · April 4, 2009 1:56PM

A "gift" from someone who doesn't know him from Adam. Obviously he knows better. An 84 year old man sitting down with 100 envelopes in front of him...mistakes are bound to happen.

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 1:57PM

Yeah and 96 were from Greg.

Steve

gregm13 · April 4, 2009 1:57PM

<< Is this our daily train wreck?

Steve >>

Steve,

It definately has the makings of a 40 car pile up.

Greg M.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 1:59PM

Here is what I get with just a simple search.

Computer 132.198.251.204 has been found. eMailTrackerPro could not find much location information for 132.198.251.204
therefore the closest eMailTrackerPro could resolve the location was America. Burlington, Vermont.

Network Contact Information: The following details refer to the network that the system is on.

University of Vermont
abuse@uvm.edu
+1-802-656-2006
102 Southwick Burlington VT 05405 US

The senders IP was - 132.198.251.204

The sender of this email appeared to have the address autographguy1234@yahoo.com.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 2:02PM

Looks like a punk student, who may or may not actually have the cards.

I've frisked a thousand young punks.

gregm13 · April 4, 2009 2:02PM

<< Here is what I get with just a simple search.

Computer 132.198.251.204 has been found. eMailTrackerPro could not find much location information for 132.198.251.204
therefore the closest eMailTrackerPro could resolve the location was America. Burlington, Vermont.

Network Contact Information: The following details refer to the network that the system is on.

University of Vermont
abuse@uvm.edu
+1-802-656-2006
102 Southwick Burlington VT 05405 US

The senders IP was - 132.198.251.204

The sender of this email appeared to have the address autographguy1234@yahoo.com. >>

I feel like I'm living through an episode of forensic files.

Rgs,

Greg M.

storm888 · April 4, 2009 2:05PM

I am looking for his dorm room, now.

He prolly needs pizza. THOUSANDS of them, maybe.

BunchOBull · April 4, 2009 2:06PM

That's a nice program. Wish it were free.

brianwintersfan · April 4, 2009 2:08PM

<< I am looking for his dorm room, now.

He prolly needs pizza. THOUSANDS of them, maybe. >>

WinPitcher · April 4, 2009 2:13PM

lol

Steve

storm888 · April 4, 2009 2:14PM

<< That's a nice program. Wish it were free. >>

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Free Trial.

$30 for full version with LOTS of bells and whistles.

thenavarro · April 4, 2009 2:19PM

Edited out as the information I had was just provided to both Storm and GregM via PM. Hope it can help you guys track down this clown.

Mike

storm888 · April 4, 2009 2:23PM

If the guy has the cards AND his name is revealed,
his student newspaper sells cheap display ads.

I might run BIG ads asking for the SCUM to return my merch.

I would include the whole story and the emails in which he
admits to having received the cards.

Most folks would find his conduct "poor."

student newspaper

..........

How many auto collectors are at that little school?

Not many.

He would be so easy to find.

I mean, for a process server, of course,

Update - the guy (Brett Turcotte) who kept my 48 Leaf and 61 Fleer Bednarik cards wrote to me

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