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Update - the guy (Brett Turcotte) who kept my 48 Leaf and 61 Fleer Bednarik cards wrote to me

gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
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Brett Turcotte

Greg,

I have seen your recent posts on Sports Collectors.net and I am possibly the person you are referring to. I recently wrote to Mr. Bednarik and received back my signed index card in addition to a 1948 Leaf and 1961 Fleer. I am sorry if you are upset, but I will not be sending you back these cards. I am not dishonest, but there is no way you can prove the cards are yours. I feel that Mr. Bednarik sent me the cards as a gift because of the nice letter I wrote. He would not have sent them if he did not want me to have them. If the cards did originally come from you, I am sorry, but I also feel that ownership is 9/10ths of the law. Once you send something through the mail, it may or not come back. I hope you understand my stance and wish you the best with your collection. I have never had cards this nice before and I have even been thinking of exclusively collecting the older stuff from now on.

Good luck!

Brett
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    WOW
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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    That's pretty amazing...the guy is a tool.
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    justmichaeljustmichael Posts: 1,048
    What a set this guy has on him.I wish I had some advice on what to do next but I don't.
    Mike
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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that's really lame. I'm speechless, really - I really thought that if someone identified themselves as having received your cards, they'd be happy to make sure they got to the right place. I know it's an overused phrase (to the point of being irritating), but I am genuinely sorry this happened to you.

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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Do you have any doubles of other auto'd Bednarik cards you could offer him if he will return your cards?
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Maybe we can start a poll here or bombard the guy with email? What a jerk!
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    fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that's one of the most f'd up things I've read in some time.
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    IMO there is NO WAY that note came from "Brett Turcotte". My guess is it is someone who is busting the balls of both of you guys (or at least yours)!

    HOWEVER, if it really is from him (I highly doubt it), he is one of the biggest a$$holes in the collecting world.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    Care to post his email address??
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    VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
    If that's really from him, he needs to be blackballed by the card collecting community. That is the most utterly ridiculous thing I ever heard. I wouldn't have said anything instead of saying that if I were him. What a moron!!! Sorry Greg.
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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have any doubles of other auto'd Bednarik cards you could offer him if he will return your cards? >>



    I've offered to give him 2 signed Bednarik cards, but he has refused thus far. He offered to send me his index card. How generous.

    Rgs,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have any doubles of other auto'd Bednarik cards you could offer him if he will return your cards? >>



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    Some folks might be comfortable negotiating with SCUM,
    but I would never do that.

    I would crush the SCUM with a lawsuit.

    His "prove it" comment is nonsense.

    His gross admissions against interest would almost "guarantee"
    a win for the plaintiff in Small Claims.

    Additionally, your pre-auto scans would ID the cards.

    ...................................


    edit: innocent party
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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Care to post his email address?? >>



    I'll PM it to you, but I won't post it here.

    Rgs,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
    Greg start threads on every board you post on with this topic and post scans of the original cards. This guy is remarkably stupid.
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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭✭
    Greg,

    Do you have scans of the cards that prove you had them? Obviously I believe you, I'm asking so that you can use them to nail this guy. Man, I am so pissed off just reading what he wrote to you. It makes my blood boil knowing that they are creatures like this in our hobby. Unfreakinbelieveable. Sorry you've had to go through this.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
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    MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    Greg,
    Do you have scans you can show him of the Bednariks?
    Did you post here about sending them to him?
    Michael
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭



    If the guy who emailed you is not spoofing you,
    he needs to be taken down.

    ..................

    As noted, posts about his THIEVERY should be made EVERYWHERE.

    First, make sure the email is genuine.


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    VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
    Where does this guy live? Like what city?
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    I think his email address needs to be posted so he can be mail bombed
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Greg ... if you will not post his email here I suggest you PM EVERYBODY who has responded to you on this thread with his email.

    If some A$$HOLE is just making up the name (BRETT) and sending it to you, our emails back to this same loser will not do much good. But what the hell!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    I knew I heard that name before. Is that the guy, from Clearweater?
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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    I just sent him a scan of the card, a screen shot of the e-bay and paypal receipt. I'll let you know how he responds. Thus far, he has offered to give me the index card that he sent...

    Rgs,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I knew I heard that name before. Is that the guy, from Clearweater? >>



    To be honest, the name sounds very familiar but I can't place where I know him from.

    Rgs,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    justmichaeljustmichael Posts: 1,048


    << <i>I think his email address needs to be posted so he can be mail bombed >>



    To hell with mail bombed.Storm is right he needs a good lawsuit to set him straight.I am sure if he is served with papers you will get the cards without having to go to court.
    Mike
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    MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    I'm in to Emailing him.
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    AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,363 ✭✭✭✭
    hard to stomach... hope you get it back Greg.
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    leathtechleathtech Posts: 3,191 ✭
    karma will get him back... but I hope this works out for you!
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    HighChopperHighChopper Posts: 1,091
    You should bloody 9/10 of his face.
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    ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    I asked across the street if anybody has ever heard of him.image
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭



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    BigDaddyBowmanBigDaddyBowman Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭
    if you google his name, a ton of entries come up with him being a professional racer. Might be a bogus name.
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    Maybe disregard what I said about the guy in Clearwater, he's a Snowcross racer. Been in the X-games. I seriously doubt he's doing TTMs.
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    I STRONGLY disagree with everybody emailing him.

    The first step is to find out FOR SURE if the guy who
    sent the email is just spoofing.

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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    Here is his latest e-mail. At least he offered free shipping...lol...

    Hi,

    The image you sent doesn't really look like the one I am familiar with. I am sorry, but we are going to have to agree to disagree. Since the card is worth more than I thought and I have 5 other Bednarik autographs, I may put this one for sale on Ebay. If I do, I will send you the link and if you decide to bid, I will waive the shipping charges if you win.

    Thanks,

    Brett
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    That sure gives a guy some good ideas, probably shouldn't post em ideas.
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    MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    Storm,
    Why do you disagree with sending him some Emails? I think many voices bring more credence than just one. Not that we should be negative or nasty, but those of us that have had positive transactions with Greg can note his honesty. It may not prove succesful, but I don't see how it would hurt.
    Michael
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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    Unleah the hounds - the e-mail address is autographguy1234@yahoo.com

    Rgs,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908


    << <i>Unleah the hounds - the e-mail address is autographguy1234@yahoo.com

    Rgs,

    Greg M. >>



    Greg:

    Try sending your recvd post from him to Ski Doo the Team he races for and see what they have to say.
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    digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    The concequence of being an a-hole should be physical pain.
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    gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    I just e-mailed him asking for a scan of the card. Storm has a good point - the sender could be one of the trolls from the sportscollectors.net board who is having a little fun.

    Rgs,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Storm,
    Why do you disagree with sending him some Emails? I think many voices bring more credence than just one. Not that we should be negative or nasty, but those of us that have had positive transactions with Greg can note his honesty. It may not prove succesful, but I don't see how it would hurt.
    Michael >>



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    IF the guy is just a spoofer, mail blasts will do no good.

    IF the WRONG person is mass-mailed, it can harm Greg's potential
    case against the real perp.

    IF Greg is SURE the guy is for real, mass emailing is fine; absent any threats.

    ........


    Try to find out what EBAY ID the guy emailing claims to be his.

    ////////////////////


    .........

    The BT emails don't ring true to me. ONLY a total idiot - or a prankster - would
    send such messages.


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    ROCKDJRWROCKDJRW Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    Email sent. Good luck Greg!
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    alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Unleah the hounds - the e-mail address is autographguy1234@yahoo.com

    Rgs,

    Greg M. >>



    Greg:

    Try sending your recvd post from him to Ski Doo the Team he races for and see what they have to say. >>


    what is the IP address that comes up in the email headers?
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    brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭


    << <i>I just e-mailed him asking for a scan of the card. Storm has a good point - the sender could be one of the trolls from the sportscollectors.net board who is having a little fun.

    Rgs,

    Greg M. >>



    Well then he is a scumbag as well.
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    EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    When someone sends you an email, can't you trace the whereabouts of the email?

    That should give you a location of the sender.
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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When someone sends you an email, can't you trace the whereabouts of the email?

    That should give you a location of the sender. >>



    Not really...addresses like @yahoo.com and @gmail.com are routed through the home IP of the server they're located on.
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Can we see the FULL header on one of the emails?
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    I think it's a guy that lives in Austin TX, two addys there for Brett turcotte. One looks like it might be a business.

    The email address is a tough one.
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    PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818 ✭
    Hi Greg,

    There's a Brett Shane Turcotte that resides in Orange Park, Florida who is 19 years old .... (904) 272-9673.

    There's a Brett Allan Turcotte that resides in Austin, Texas who is 47 years old ... (512) 383-5534.

    Not sure if you can use this info or not .... sorry to hear about the mess!

    PoppaJ
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    No

    autographguy1234

    has ever posted on any Yahoo boards, unless he has self-reported
    such posts and had them removed, or unless somebody else had
    them removed.


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    Let's see a FULL email header.


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