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Stolen Coin Alert: 1901-S Barber 25c in PCGS VF25

Hi All:

Harry Laibstain just alerted me to a coin that was recently shipped out via USPS Express Mail and never made it to it's destination. The Postal Inspectors are investigating. As everyone probably knows, stealing US mail is a federal offense, and is taken very seriously by the US Postal Service.

It is lost in transit and presumed stolen.

In the meantime, I asked if I could post the coin here so folks can be on the lookout for it.



Again, it is in a PCGS VF25 holder. Value = $27,500.

Here is what Harry emailed me:

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PCGS VF25 1901-s barber quarter
see image attached
original color
PCGS serial number 042213871
Post office says it made the plane in Norfolk going to the Chicago area but never arrived
HARRY
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If you see this coin, call Harry's office at (800) 869-1869.

The coin looks lovely and original in the photos. However, even if (heaven forbid) the coin is dipped to disguise it, it has a mark in the reverse stars above the eagle, as you can see.

Thanks to all.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Watch for it at coin shows in particular..... or pawnshops. Cheers, RickO
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a tough coin and especially difficult in that grade range.
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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    That makes me hurt. I will keep an eye out for sure.
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    intenceintence Posts: 1,255
    ill keep an eye out. that is one expensive coin!
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    SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should read Lost and Maybe stolen,

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    Wow yes that should be a coin easy to spot, very nice. Keep an eye on Ebay also that is probably where it will end up
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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    Hope it was insured!

    Putting that aside, it's very likely that the post office just goofed up and misplaced it. 42 years from now it'll be delivered! Sad to hear such a valuable coin went missing.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    You are saying this coin was shipped without being registered?

    Steve
    Good for you.
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    CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You are saying this coin was shipped without being registered?

    Steve >>



    The coin was sent via Express Mail. The coin was privately insured by a company that provides such specialized coverage. However, the best thing that could happen is that the coin would be recovered, not that the claim would be paid.
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    Do we have the pcgs #'s providing it hasn't been cracked from it's slab
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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,371 ✭✭✭✭
    042213871

    www.brunkauctions.com

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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How does a coin with a scratch like that make it into a holder? Is it because of it's a high priced coin?
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Post office says it made the plane in Norfolk going to the Chicago area but never arrived

    This one ought not be too difficult to pinpoint. There are only so many handlers and people who have access , even on the planes.
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    I hope the coin is found, Harry's one of the good guy's.
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    CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image...This coin will get noticed and collectors pay attention, when a coin like this surfaces...............Reading this today had me sweating for awhile,as I sent an express yesterday to PCGS but package signed for alittle while ago, by PCGS rep. image
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How does a coin with a scratch like that make it into a holder? Is it because of it's a high priced coin? >>



    scratch appears minor and not fresh -- the fact that it is a high-value coin does help, IMO.
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sorry his coin's been misplaced, but laying that aside, I agree with a previous poster...how does that get into a holder with an obvious scratch like that? If I send that coin in, rare or no, it gets bodybagged.

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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    HMMMM Headed my way!

    Will keep a watch out at the local shows. Never know what turns up.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,572 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>How does a coin with a scratch like that make it into a holder? Is it because of it's a high priced coin? >>



    scratch appears minor and not fresh -- the fact that it is a high-value coin does help, IMO. >>



    Bingo. Different rules for different coins. If that was a modern it probably wouldn't have been graded.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    I would have demanded such a coin be sent registered mail. I hope it's recovered unaltered.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would have demanded such a coin be sent registered mail. I hope it's recovered unaltered. >>



    standard shipping method for many dealers is USPS Express Mail, with coins insured via private insurance. Time to prepare registered packages and the wait due to the lengthy period of time Registered often takes is money potentially lost for dealers. Part of the excellent customer service that HLRC offers includes Express shipping for purchases AND Express shipping (at no cost sellers) for coins offered for sale to HLRC.
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    raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember once Harry lost a valuable 1793 half cent, but it was instead found taped to the inside of the box.
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    PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845


    If I were to do that I would consider myself extremely stupid
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>my heart bleeds for a big time dealer who is gullible enough to play the odd's in sending a 20k + big $$$ coin

    with inadequate protection against loss.

    If I were to do that I would consider myself extremely stupid >>



    Most dealers use Express Mail fully covered by private insurance. It's standard stuff in the industry. It's very fast. And it's sufficiently reliable that the private insurers charge the same amount for coverage of Express Mail as they do for coverage of Registered Mail.





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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hope it was insured!

    Putting that aside, it's very likely that the post office just goofed up and misplaced it. 42 years from now it'll be delivered! Sad to hear such a valuable coin went missing. >>



    Express Mail has a max of $$ 5,000.00 insurance....ouch !! I won't be sending expensive coins . naked like that anymore
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I've had Express Mail arrive three days after it was mailed - from Harry !
    The last time it came with the regular mail - I just had to sign for it. I thought
    the package was lost too...it was another 01-S in PCGS 63... it just weighed
    twice the amount of the quarter that's missing...

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    I pray the quarter arrives safe and sound. I have Harry on speed-dial in case the
    coin's offered to me.

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont know where the coin is, but I know where it was going (if it was headed to the chicago area)

    jim
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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Better odds it's just lost/misplaced/misrouted and will be found.
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    Aww, Man!; That's gotta be a kick in the stomach, not to mention the wallet.
    At least you have diagnostics by having a good photo of it.
    I have pics of every coin I ever bought and suggest everyone do that.
    If that's too much trouble, at least do the moon money coins.
    I have the 1901-S in PCGS VF30 and would have a hard time living with it's theft.
    Sometimes I think it's safer to put one like that in a bubble pack envelope without insurance.
    Don't think I could do it though. UPS might be a better way to go.
    JMHO.
    Good luck.
    JT
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    I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hope it was insured!

    Putting that aside, it's very likely that the post office just goofed up and misplaced it. 42 years from now it'll be delivered! Sad to hear such a valuable coin went missing. >>



    Express Mail has a max of $$ 5,000.00 insurance....ouch !! I won't be sending expensive coins . naked like that anymore >>



    I am no longer amazed by people who don't read any of the posts that come before theirs.
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Express Mail has a max of $$ 5,000.00 insurance....ouch !! >>



    As has been said by me and several others, coin dealers use private insurance which covers Express Mail completely. But we'd all still rather get a missing coin back instead of a settlement check.
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    dang, hope it gets found. that's a incredibly rare coin w/ that level of detail

    the effects of that very minor scratch seems awfuly exaggerated by some folks.

    K S
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    CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭
    Don't forget to report it to the Numismatic Crime Information Center


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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Any update on the missing 01-S Quarter ???

    Mike Hayes
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    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't see it at the Central FL show, and I was Barber coin huntin'! But I didn't expect to see it there, obviously image
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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Hope it surfaces.

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    How would a theif miles away from the shipping point know the sealed package contained a 27K coin?

    Edited: And would they know what they stole if they opened the package and saw this coin inside?
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The scratch seems minor. Pix often exaggerate scratches. But my first reaction was the scratch will make it easier to ID if it finds its way into another holder.

    Lance.
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How would a theif miles away from the shipping point know the sealed package contained a 27K coin? >>



    They wouldn't.



    << <i>Edited: And would they know what they stole if they opened the package and saw this coin inside? >>



    Almost certainly not. Though it would likely find it's way to a coin dealer eventually (perhaps via a pawn shop or something), which is the whole purpose of posting this here in the chatroom to begin with.
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    dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Should read Lost and Maybe stolen, >>



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    Good luck on the recovery of the coin. In case some do not understand, most private dealer insurance will cover a coin up to $100,000 and we MUST use USPS Express Mail or FedEx Standard Overnight.
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why wasn't a coin of this stature sent Registered Mail? Sending it any other way is insanity!
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amended to say regardless of what type of insurance coverage is used as per the previous post above my first one.
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    JBTurnerJBTurner Posts: 72 ✭✭
    "Why wasn't a coin of this stature sent Registered Mail? Sending it any other way is insanity!"

    Because Registered mail is not trackable however Express mail is the only trackable mail USPS has.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I often use the tracking number I get for registered mail. Am I misunderstanding?
    Lance.
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why wasn't a coin of this stature sent Registered Mail? Sending it any other way is insanity! >>



    I don't know how many time this has to be written in this post, but the insurance companies charge the same rates to insure either. Which means they consider them to be of equal risk.

    That, plus the fact that Express is trackable, and takes a fraction of the time, makes it the obvious choice for anyone running a business (and who doesn't want to wait two weeks to send a package cross-country).
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    DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    A week has gone by since the last post. Has the coin been located?
    Dr. Pete
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    JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Why wasn't a coin of this stature sent Registered Mail? Sending it any other way is insanity! >>



    I don't know how many time this has to be written in this post, but the insurance companies charge the same rates to insure either. Which means they consider them to be of equal risk.

    That, plus the fact that Express is trackable, and takes a fraction of the time, makes it the obvious choice for anyone running a business (and who doesn't want to wait two weeks to send a package cross-country). >>



    There are limits to what insurance companies will cover in Express Mail. The limits are much higher with Registered and probably less expensive.
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There are limits to what insurance companies will cover in Express Mail. The limits are much higher with Registered and probably less expensive. >>



    75K of coverage for one shipment costs the same whether it is sent Express or Registered.

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