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    corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    Carol,
    Do you know what the other March specials are gonna be yet?
    Thanks
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    so what's the collector's club special for march for those of us that actually pay for memberships?image

    Hi Carol!
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    I may save that for tomorrow as to not add more confusion with this one.

    I don't think I could handle another round of 20 questions tonight! image

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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i agree,i love the red flips and my 52 topps autoed set should be #1 in something in psa/dna period--
    instead- im relegated to # 72 on the regular registry- because it dont go in the psa/dna registry-which is stupid, so the only place i have to put it is with the regular cards, and its 1,000 times harder to do than the regular cards????? they are autoed, and they are real


    if they would let red and blue flips together-there might be more than 3 or 4 people on the cards in psa/dna

    dont get me wrong,its a great concept, there is just the wrong rules about flips though, it should be all about if the auto is real of not, who cares if an auto has a grade or not? that dont interest most people working on slabbed sets in the least, some people you do well just to find thier auto on a specific year of card to begin with-autoed set collectors like greg m, or reese will tell ya the same thing
    and thats the tooth,huh barryimage
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    You said it Rube !
    The Psa/Dna set registry in my opinion, should have been built with the difficulty of the autograph in mind and not the medium it is on.
    I had to come up with a few composites for Psa sets when I started them, The Psa/Dna registry should have been started the same way.
    Since it looks like most of the sets in the new Psa/Dna registry are any medium type sets anyway, Why would they penalize owners of blue flip authentic cards?

    I would say that the majority of Psa/Dna "graded" autos are of the authentic variety anyway. Look at E-bay for example, the authentic grade out numbers any other grade issued by Psa/Dna by 3 to 1 at least.

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    by the way, I did send Joe an E-mail.................

    Joe,

    As a long-time collector of autographed cards could you please explain to me why the decision was made to completely remove blue-flip cards with the "authentic" designation from any form of Psa/Dna set registry competition ?

    Red -flip cards are allowed in Psa's regular set registry with a designation of 1. Why cant blue flip cards be held under the same regard in the Psa?Dna registry ?



    Thanks, I look forward to your response



    Sincerely,

    Barry Koffman

    Joes response....................

    Hey Barry,



    You are welcome to call me anytime.



    949-567-xxx0



    Joe


    Although I do appreciate the response why cant he just E-mail me ? Why do I have to run up my phone bill to call him ?

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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Joe


    Although I do appreciate the response why cant he just E-mail me ? Why do I have to run up my phone bill to call him ? >>



    Call the 800 number and just ask a rep to transfer you to his ext.
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    Matt, I sent him this response. I think there are more than a few people here that would like to know as well.

    Mr. Orlando,
    I appreciate your timely response to my question.
    However, There are several collectors besides myself who would like to know the answers to these questions as well as a few other questions we have.
    If you could, would you please come over to the Cu message board and give a brief,yet,detailed response for us ?

    Thank you for your time
    We look forward to hearing from you
    Barry
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    slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Although I do appreciate the response why cant he just E-mail me ? Why do I have to run up my phone bill to call him ? >>



    Honestly I think that's a pretty nice gesture. I can't think of many companies as large as CU from which you would receive that offer from the President.
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    I agree, it was a very nice gesture. I think it would take up less of Joe's time and mine if he were to come on the board and answer a few questions though.
    That way everyone would know.
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Matt, I sent him this response. I think there are more than a few people here that would like to know as well.

    Mr. Orlando,
    I appreciate your timely response to my question.
    However, There are several collectors besides myself who would like to know the answers to these questions as well as a few other questions we have.
    If you could, would you please come over to the Cu message board and give a brief,yet,detailed response for us ?

    Thank you for your time
    We look forward to hearing from you
    Barry >>




    Sounds good!
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    gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    Terrific special! I will definitely be taking advantage of this one. I've got a few that I want to send in! Thanks PSA!
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    at least you got a responseimage i didnt get oneimage

    i emailed joe-does this make sense to anybody but me?
    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=707667

    hi joe, i have a question, most guys on here that are set collectors of
    autoed cards could really care less what the grade of an auto is, as long
    as it is in their set and is real,

    if you click on my sigline link- im doing
    the 52 topps set all autoed , and it should be # 1 in psa/dna, but its not,all
    because the auto is authenticated, not graded? makes no sense? still says psa/dna
    you would have people pouring over into psa/dna with thier sets right and left if red
    flips were let back in,they were once, now thery are not-
    so my 52 set is relegated to # 72 in the regular registry- where it should
    not be, some of these guys in the old sets,and 80s for that matter that are
    dead, you do well to find in a specific card,

    i know guys working on 55aa/50 bowman fb/ me/ 82 donruss/ 86 donruss
    it just makes perfect business sense to let sets like mine in ,when you ran
    the 10$ special, all kinds of cards were red flipped-and they should be counted
    just like the blue flip
    i spent 5,000$ to be # 72 haaaaaaaaaaaaa
    - you dont even have to be a member to get it done in blue, and
    i paid for 3 years of membership, like alot of others
    i want my set, or my mtv, or somrthing,image
    see what im saying
    randy

    http://www.psacard.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=43979&ac=1
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i want my set, or my mtv, or somrthing,
    see what im saying
    randy >>





    ...and chicks for free
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    does that make any sense to anybody but me?image
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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭


    << <i>does that make any sense to anybody but me?image >>



    I'm with you 100% Randy. My sentiments exactly.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,222 ✭✭


    << <i>does that make any sense to anybody but me?image >>



    Randy ... believe it or not I think we all understood what you said! LMAO

    And we probably all agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    I think we have a record of replies in a Carol started thread......at least in the Sport Card Forums.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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    Life used to be so simple. I think my head is going to explode from all of the confusion!! I need a flow chart or graphs or something? Does anybody here know sign language?
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    This sounds great I have a bunch of autographs I wanted graded.
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    yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,256 ✭✭✭
    break it down like this....
    PSA/DNA only (forget that standard PSA exists on this special)
    blue flips only
    authentication fee.....$$$
    encapsulation fee......$$$
    Auto grade.................FREE
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    what barry saidimage

    red and blue need to be put together,againimage
    why should i have the # 72 52 topps set autographed in the regular registry?
    ,when its 1000 times harder for autoed ones than reg ones, anybody can do that?
    , i want a psa/dna # 1 spot in the auto registry,and alot of other people want their sets in the auto registry as well,youll make more $,it dont take a rocket scientist to figure it out, youd see all kind of autoed sets poppin up,as soon as they coud slap em in there, im sure not flippin 200 52 autos to blue just to get the # 1 spot, i paid for this stuff onceimage and im not paying $5,000 again to get flipped to blue , no way
    thats my story and im stickn to itimage
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Glad I don't collect autographs.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭✭
    Even though this special will not apply to me (I don't really collect autos), it is a very generous special that will make MANY people happy. Thanks PSA/DNA!

    Honestly, I had no idea they "graded" autographs... I thought they just "authenticated" them. I thought the grade pertained to the card itself. *shrugs*
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    bxbbxb Posts: 805 ✭✭
    Yikes! A little too confusing. Lots of options and possible combinations.

    And I didn't know there was a separate PSA/DNA registry out there.
    Capecards
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    << <i>Even though this special will not apply to me (I don't really collect autos), it is a very generous special that will make MANY people happy. Thanks PSA/DNA!

    Honestly, I had no idea they "graded" autographs... I thought they just "authenticated" them. I thought the grade pertained to the card itself. *shrugs* >>




    I am not sure how this is going to work on cards. Perhaps blue flip with a number the auto is graded, red flip with the number the card is graded.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    Randy,

    I will get back to you on this. I need to get a better understanding of what the issue is but, once I do, I will respond.

    Take care,

    Joe
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    mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭
    I was not able to be on the boards last night and I am reading this for the 1st time today. I have to admit I was somewhat confused but if I am reading this correctly the following scenario would be correct:

    I have a number of regular cards with autographs that will be authenticated for free and the autograph (not the card) will also be graded for free....but it will cost me 10 bucks to encapsulate them.... Can I assume this is correct or am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance for the information. this sounds like a great offer if what I am understanding to be true is correct.
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
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    << <i>I was not able to be on the boards last night and I am reading this for the 1st time today. I have to admit I was somewhat confused but if I am reading this correctly the following scenario would be correct:

    I have a number of regular cards with autographs that will be authenticated for free and the autograph (not the card) will also be graded for free....but it will cost me 10 bucks to encapsulate them.... Can I assume this is correct or am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance for the information. this sounds like a great offer if what I am understanding to be true is correct. >>




    As far as the special, you pay for the authentication and the encapsulation, the grading (giving it a number rather then just "Authentic") is free.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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    << <i>I was not able to be on the boards last night and I am reading this for the 1st time today. I have to admit I was somewhat confused but if I am reading this correctly the following scenario would be correct:

    I have a number of regular cards with autographs that will be authenticated for free and the autograph (not the card) will also be graded for free....but it will cost me 10 bucks to encapsulate them.... Can I assume this is correct or am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance for the information. this sounds like a great offer if what I am understanding to be true is correct. >>



    No you are not correct. You pay the autograph authentication fee and PSA/DNA is offering to grade the autograph for free. The card is not looked at by graders and no comment will be made about the authenticity or condition of the card. This specials is not a PSA special but a PSA/DNA special and applies to all items not just trading cards.

    Carol
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    mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I was not able to be on the boards last night and I am reading this for the 1st time today. I have to admit I was somewhat confused but if I am reading this correctly the following scenario would be correct:

    I have a number of regular cards with autographs that will be authenticated for free and the autograph (not the card) will also be graded for free....but it will cost me 10 bucks to encapsulate them.... Can I assume this is correct or am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance for the information. this sounds like a great offer if what I am understanding to be true is correct. >>




    As far as the special, you pay for the authentication and the encapsulation, the grading (giving it a number rather then just "Authentic") is free. >>




    Thanks for the reply..... If this is the case then this special is not all that special then... at least to me. As others said I only care that it shows as authentic and a number means nothing to me.
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
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    << <i>I was not able to be on the boards last night and I am reading this for the 1st time today. I have to admit I was somewhat confused but if I am reading this correctly the following scenario would be correct:

    I have a number of regular cards with autographs that will be authenticated for free and the autograph (not the card) will also be graded for free....but it will cost me 10 bucks to encapsulate them.... Can I assume this is correct or am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance for the information. this sounds like a great offer if what I am understanding to be true is correct. >>




    As far as the special, you pay for the authentication and the encapsulation, the grading (giving it a number rather then just "Authentic") is free. >>




    Thanks for the reply..... If this is the case then this special is not all that special then... at least to me. As others said I only care that it shows as authentic and a number means nothing to me. >>



    True, not all specials will apply to all people.

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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What some people seem to be getting hung up on is that "authenticating" the autograph (telling you if it is real or not) and "grading" the autograph (telling you on a scale of 1 to 10 how nice it is) are two different things.
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    << <i>What some people seem to be getting hung up on is that "authenticating" the autograph (telling you if it is real or not) and "grading" the autograph (telling you on a scale of 1 to 10 how nice it is) are two different things. >>



    Yeah, I am sure the special is good for some people. Like the signed baseballs. I have a Frank Thomas PSA DNA ball that has no number graded like I see many of the PSA DNA balls on eBay have.

    I think the problem with us card people, that collect the sets that would fit this, (Heisman, HOF, Packers...I think there are a couple others) is we are not really sure how that part of the registry is going to look. As noted you could use any, then you could only use blue, now you need blue with numbers I guess. I have to wonder, will these sets even remain in the PSA registry...but rather would they not be moved to the PSA DNA registry now they are trying to get it going? Hard to collect something when you don't exactly know what the something is. Judging by Joe's e-mail to Rube, and Carol's response, no one really knows yet.

    What Randy would like to see, and many others, myself included, is that all you could use blue and red for "Authentic" or a grade of 1...to be able to use them in the same set. Due to the way it is now you could have the signed cards graded 3-4 ways...and not be able use them as a set.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Hi Carol.

    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    Hi stone.

    Did you come to save me?

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    corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    Carol, any word on the member specials for March yet? I have a whole gaggle of '64's I need to send in for $3 each. image
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    << <i>Carol, any word on the member specials for March yet? I have a whole gaggle of '64's I need to send in for $3 each. image >>



    The PSA Collectors Club special will be posted soon.

    Carol
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    gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    Carol has the patience of a saint.
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi stone.

    Did you come to save me? >>



    Stone?!?!

    You're cheating on me with Mike?!?!

    And I was here to save you?!?!

    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    Hi stone.

    Did you come to save me? >>


    it only took ya 2 hours to catch that barryimage
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi stone.

    Did you come to save me? >>


    it only took ya 2 hours to catch that barryimage >>



    I don't pay much attention to pinned threads. Hence the reason it took a day just for me to say hi to her.

    However, now that I've caught her thinking of Mike, that may change.

    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,256 ✭✭✭
    Carol made a Freudian slip! Now we know who she is thinking about and it ISNT Stown! image
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    PSARichPSARich Posts: 534 ✭✭✭
    Hi Carol:
    Perhaps an example would help, especially for someone like me who has not sent in items for autograph authenticity before. I have a 1954 Detroit Tiger Team signed baseball, probably in NM-Mint condition. It has 25 signatures.

    1. What would it cost me for authentication with this special?
    2. What would I get for that cost if I sent it in without this special?
    3. What will I get if I send it in with this special?

    Thanks.
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    Stown / Stone


    I said it right in my head..I just typed it wrong. image
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    << <i>Hi Carol:
    Perhaps an example would help, especially for someone like me who has not sent in items for autograph authenticity before. I have a 1954 Detroit Tiger Team signed baseball, probably in NM-Mint condition. It has 25 signatures.

    1. What would it cost me for authentication with this special?
    2. What would I get for that cost if I sent it in without this special?
    3. What will I get if I send it in with this special?

    Thanks. >>




    Without looking up who is on that ball let’s say the authentication fee is $100 for the ball. Depending on who the premier signer is it could be more Link to fees


    1. If you would like to have the autographs authenticated and the ball graded with out this special the fee would be $100 (authentication fee) + $100 grading fee for a total of $200. (plus shipping)

    2. If you were to have the autographs authenticated and the ball graded with this special the fee would be $100 (authentication fee) + $0 (grading fee) for a total of $100 (plus shipping.

    3. If you want to have the autographs authenticated and not have the ball graded the fee would be $100 plus shipping. This special would not be for you.

    Carol
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    Hello All,

    There seems to be some questions regarding the way the new Autograph Registry works and why we require the autographs to be graded.

    It really is very simple...the only way you can distinguish between the quality of each set is to rank the quality of the autographs within a category.

    The only way to rank the quality is to have them graded.

    For example, you may have 50 people who all complete a 500 HR Club single-signed ball collection. If they are all complete and if we allowed people to register them without grades - we would have a 50-way tie.

    That being said, we may - and I repeat, may - consider opening up the non-competitive section of the Registry called Collector's Showcase to non-graded autographs.

    I do appreciate the feedback and, as the Registry evolves, we will be listening to suggestions from hobbyists.

    Take care,

    Joe Orlando
    President
    Joe Orlando
    CEO, Collectors Universe, Inc.
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    PSARichPSARich Posts: 534 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Carol. That helps.

    The 1954 ball has Al Kaline as the main signature. So it sounds like it would be $100 to have the signatures authenticated plus an extra $20 because Kaline is the premier signer, for a total of $120. The ball would also be graded at no cost, a savings of $100. Sounds like a winner to me.
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