Would you send a $400 card w/o DC?

digicat · February 21, 2009 10:31AM

I got this card in the mail today. It was wrapped in a piece of paper with "THANKS" written on it, and inserted into a bubble mailer. No insurance, no delivery confirmation. I paid via paypal. I guess the seller didn't think he needed to protect himself from scammers. Fortunatly, I'm not a scammer, but if I was, he'd be out $400 and the card.

EagleEyeKid · February 21, 2009 10:33AM

Nice card. Very generous grade.
Seller will get hit eventually. Guess he'll have to learn
the hard way.

perkdog · February 21, 2009 10:36AM

I always use DC, it costs like 45 cents and is well worth it.

rube26105 · February 21, 2009 10:39AM

what pauls perkies said,all 4 agree

MBMiller25 · February 21, 2009 10:40AM

I DC everything under $249 and $250+ get signature confirmation.

gumbyfan · February 21, 2009 10:40AM

<< I always use DC, it costs like 45 cents and is well worth it. >>

DC won't protect a seller on a $400 item, though. Signature Confirmation is the only way to go.

Perhaps the seller saw your feedback and was comfortable with your reputation.

zep33 · February 21, 2009 10:41AM

you might want to drop the seller a little note to let him know of the possible consequences of not doing that in the future. I would

gumbyfan · February 21, 2009 10:42AM

<< you might want to drop the seller a little note to let him know of the possible consequences of not doing that in the future. I would >>

TJMAC · February 21, 2009 10:44AM

I think the guy is crazy not send that without signature confirmation. It is remarkable how penny wise, pound foolish people are. Very nice card by the way and it is in my opinion right on for the grade.

gumbyfan · February 21, 2009 10:45AM

<< penny wise, pound foolish >>

Now there's one ya don't hear every day. And you can take that to the bank.

Alfonz24 · February 21, 2009 10:49AM

<< 

<< penny wise, pound foolish >>

Now there's one ya don't hear every day. And you can take that to the bank.

>>

A fool and his money are soon parted!

BTW, nice card!

digicat · February 21, 2009 10:49AM

<< you might want to drop the seller a little note to let him know of the possible consequences of not doing that in the future. I would >>

Good idea, I'll do that.

It'll be the 2nd email I've sent out today to critique a seller's shipping methods. I got a 1962 Topps common in a PSA 7.5 slab today that the seller taped to a piece of cardboard. Taped, as in put a big strip of packing tape directly on the surface of the slab (top to bottom) and around to the back of a piece of cardboard. I spent 30 min scrubbing the slab surface with alcohol and cotton to get the tape goo off. Grr…

<< BTW, nice card! >>

Thanks, I like it too. I think I got a pretty good deal on it too, as it's a pretty nice looking 6.

SoonerCowboy · February 21, 2009 12:12PM

Wow! I would've sent that insured with signature confirmation. Glad you received it.

storm888 · February 21, 2009 12:20PM

Good deed to warn the seller that MANY folks would
consider the package "a gift" from PayPal.

MuckyMutt · February 21, 2009 12:24PM

<< Would you send a $400 card w/o DC? >>

I would...
to the guy who sent it.

Trust is not always a bad thing. It can be rewarding when you trust the right people.

ps- I'll bet he sent it that way because of the OP's feedback. I've done the same thing. Ive also sent cash to seller's that have great feedback and who I've dealt with before. There are good people out there and it's a pleasure doing business with them.

grote15 · February 21, 2009 1:09PM

It is reassuring to know that the majority of collectors out there are honest...unfortunately all it takes is one dirtbag to ruin that all..

JackWESQ · February 21, 2009 2:47PM

I always ship with delivery confirmation and, depending on a number of factors, more.

<< penny wise, pound foolish >>

The saying makes sense. But I always though it odd that the first part referred to a monetary sum while the second part referred to a measurement of weight, e.g., perhaps it should be "penny wise, dollar foolish" or "gram wise, pound foolish."

/s/ JackWESQ

storm888 · February 21, 2009 2:50PM

"<< penny wise, pound foolish >>"

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British Pound = approx $1.42 US

A penny is a small amount of money and a pound is a larger amount. "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" is to be cautious (wise) with small amounts of money but wasteful (foolish) with larger amounts. Example: "We've worked so hard to save money that if we took a vacation now it would be penny-wise, pound-foolish." People sometimes worry about spending small amounts of money; then they carelessly spend much larger amounts. Example: "He spends very little on food during the week, then blows all his money drinking on the weekends. He really is penny-wise, pound-foolish."

The figurative image goes way back; in 'The Historie of Foure-footed Beastes' (1607) Edward Topsell wrote: 'If by covetousnesse or negligence, one withdraw from them their ordinary foode, he shall be penny wise, and pound foolish.'"

Darin · February 21, 2009 2:59PM

<< I always ship with delivery confirmation and, depending on a number of factors, more.

<< penny wise, pound foolish >>

The saying makes sense. But I always though it odd that the first part referred to a monetary sum while the second part referred to a measurement of weight, e.g., perhaps it should be "penny wise, dollar foolish" or "gram wise, pound foolish."

/s/ JackWESQ >>

Its an English saying. Pennys' and pounds' are both monetary sums there.

Actually in the US there's no such thing as a penny for a monetary unit. Its the cent.
But for some reason we adopted the English term "Penny" but didn't adopt "Pound" or any of there other monetary terms.

So the US version should be
Cent wise, dollar foolish.

joestalin · February 21, 2009 3:09PM

thats a 6??

JackWESQ · February 21, 2009 3:17PM

Storm888 and Darin,

Very interesting. Thanks for the education.

Very truly yours,

/s/ JackWESQ

digicat · February 21, 2009 3:21PM

<< thats a 6?? >>

No creases, no wrinkles, no surface issues, no stains, centering is 7ish. There's some print dots along the upper portion of the card, as is obvious in the scan, but not bad enough for a qualifier. The worst part of the card is the ding in the upper left corner.

You disagree with the grade?

grote15 · February 21, 2009 3:23PM

< thats a 6?? >>

No creases, no wrinkles, no surface issues, no stains, centering is 7ish. There's some print dots along the upper portion of the card, as is obvious in the scan, but not bad enough for a qualifier. The worst part of the card is the ding in the upper left corner.

You disagree with the grade?

Don't pay any attention to Kevin--he's a horn-playing Sucs fan with nary a clue..

joestalin · February 21, 2009 3:25PM

those print dots "arn't bad enough"...what? Its the only thing I see on the card. Certainly not everyones 6's look that bad!

storm888 · February 21, 2009 3:28PM

"...You disagree with the grade? "

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No.

I think it's prolly graded about right.

It does lack eye-appeal TO ME, but certainly not
everybody would see it that way.

digicat · February 21, 2009 3:34PM

<< those print dots "arn't bad enough"...what? Its the only thing I see on the card. Certainly not everyones 6's look that bad! >>

I'm the one who paid money for it... and I'm happy.

joestalin · February 21, 2009 3:43PM

thats all that counts, the seller is lucky that you are an honest man!

Kevin

SidePocket · February 21, 2009 4:19PM

Nice card, digi. Are you sure those are print dots? Looks more like gum - which would come right off.

stormsurge · February 21, 2009 9:29PM

I wish that we didn't have to do it but without question sellers need to use DC with signature confirmation over $250. A small costs gives lots of protection.

baseballfan · February 21, 2009 10:00PM

no i would send without DC, not for that much

nice card for the money

sbtrailrider · February 22, 2009 4:04PM

On the other end of the spectrum, I bought a card for $15 + shipping from Levi at 707 and they sent it signature required. I had to stand in line for 30 min at the post office. Talk about overkill....

NYYanks23 · February 23, 2009 12:22AM

I always use it now, I learnes the hard way. About two years ago after I got back into the hobby as an adult I began to grade some of my childhood collection and sell some on ebay. I sold one card for $180, and then it was mysteriously lost in the mail, me the idiot had no DC or anything, and was left pissing in the wind! Never again.

lsutigers1973 · February 23, 2009 12:25AM

<< thats all that counts, the seller is lucky that you are an honest man! >>

Too bad you aren't.

digicat · February 23, 2009 4:11AM

<< Nice card, digi. Are you sure those are print dots? Looks more like gum - which would come right off. >>

Yeah, they're print dots. I checked with my loupe.

Would you send a $400 card w/o DC?

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