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Would you send a $400 card w/o DC?

digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
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I got this card in the mail today. It was wrapped in a piece of paper with "THANKS" written on it, and inserted into a bubble mailer. No insurance, no delivery confirmation. I paid via paypal. I guess the seller didn't think he needed to protect himself from scammers. Fortunatly, I'm not a scammer, but if I was, he'd be out $400 and the card.

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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Nice card. Very generous grade.
    Seller will get hit eventually. Guess he'll have to learn
    the hard way.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always use DC, it costs like 45 cents and is well worth it.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    what pauls perkies said,all 4 agree image
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭
    I DC everything under $249 and $250+ get signature confirmation.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I always use DC, it costs like 45 cents and is well worth it. >>



    DC won't protect a seller on a $400 item, though. Signature Confirmation is the only way to go.

    Perhaps the seller saw your feedback and was comfortable with your reputation.
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    you might want to drop the seller a little note to let him know of the possible consequences of not doing that in the future. I would
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>you might want to drop the seller a little note to let him know of the possible consequences of not doing that in the future. I would >>



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  • TJMACTJMAC Posts: 864 ✭✭
    I think the guy is crazy not send that without signature confirmation. It is remarkable how penny wise, pound foolish people are. Very nice card by the way and it is in my opinion right on for the grade.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>penny wise, pound foolish >>



    Now there's one ya don't hear every day. And you can take that to the bank. image
  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>penny wise, pound foolish >>



    Now there's one ya don't hear every day. And you can take that to the bank. image >>



    A fool and his money are soon parted!

    BTW, nice card!
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>you might want to drop the seller a little note to let him know of the possible consequences of not doing that in the future. I would >>



    Good idea, I'll do that.


    It'll be the 2nd email I've sent out today to critique a seller's shipping methods. I got a 1962 Topps common in a PSA 7.5 slab today that the seller taped to a piece of cardboard. Taped, as in put a big strip of packing tape directly on the surface of the slab (top to bottom) and around to the back of a piece of cardboard. I spent 30 min scrubbing the slab surface with alcohol and cotton to get the tape goo off. Grr…




    << <i>BTW, nice card! >>



    Thanks, I like it too. I think I got a pretty good deal on it too, as it's a pretty nice looking 6.
    My Giants collection want list

    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
  • SoonerCowboySoonerCowboy Posts: 1,179
    Wow! I would've sent that insured with signature confirmation. Glad you received it.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Good deed to warn the seller that MANY folks would
    consider the package "a gift" from PayPal.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • MuckyMuttMuckyMutt Posts: 803


    << <i>Would you send a $400 card w/o DC? >>



    I would...
    to the guy who sent it.

    Trust is not always a bad thing. It can be rewarding when you trust the right people.

    ps- I'll bet he sent it that way because of the OP's feedback. I've done the same thing. Ive also sent cash to seller's that have great feedback and who I've dealt with before. There are good people out there and it's a pleasure doing business with them.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 30,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is reassuring to know that the majority of collectors out there are honest...unfortunately all it takes is one dirtbag to ruin that all..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    I always ship with delivery confirmation and, depending on a number of factors, more.


    << <i>penny wise, pound foolish >>


    The saying makes sense. But I always though it odd that the first part referred to a monetary sum while the second part referred to a measurement of weight, e.g., perhaps it should be "penny wise, dollar foolish" or "gram wise, pound foolish."

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "<< penny wise, pound foolish >>"

    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////


    British Pound = approx $1.42 US


    A penny is a small amount of money and a pound is a larger amount. "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" is to be cautious (wise) with small amounts of money but wasteful (foolish) with larger amounts. Example: "We've worked so hard to save money that if we took a vacation now it would be penny-wise, pound-foolish." People sometimes worry about spending small amounts of money; then they carelessly spend much larger amounts. Example: "He spends very little on food during the week, then blows all his money drinking on the weekends. He really is penny-wise, pound-foolish."



    The figurative image goes way back; in 'The Historie of Foure-footed Beastes' (1607) Edward Topsell wrote: 'If by covetousnesse or negligence, one withdraw from them their ordinary foode, he shall be penny wise, and pound foolish.'"

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I always ship with delivery confirmation and, depending on a number of factors, more.


    << <i>penny wise, pound foolish >>


    The saying makes sense. But I always though it odd that the first part referred to a monetary sum while the second part referred to a measurement of weight, e.g., perhaps it should be "penny wise, dollar foolish" or "gram wise, pound foolish."

    /s/ JackWESQ >>



    Its an English saying. Pennys' and pounds' are both monetary sums there.

    Actually in the US there's no such thing as a penny for a monetary unit. Its the cent.
    But for some reason we adopted the English term "Penny" but didn't adopt "Pound" or any of there other monetary terms.

    So the US version should be
    Cent wise, dollar foolish.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    thats a 6??
  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    Storm888 and Darin,

    Very interesting. Thanks for the education.

    Very truly yours,

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>thats a 6?? >>



    No creases, no wrinkles, no surface issues, no stains, centering is 7ish. There's some print dots along the upper portion of the card, as is obvious in the scan, but not bad enough for a qualifier. The worst part of the card is the ding in the upper left corner.

    You disagree with the grade?
    My Giants collection want list

    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 30,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    < thats a 6?? >>



    No creases, no wrinkles, no surface issues, no stains, centering is 7ish. There's some print dots along the upper portion of the card, as is obvious in the scan, but not bad enough for a qualifier. The worst part of the card is the ding in the upper left corner.

    You disagree with the grade?

    Don't pay any attention to Kevin--he's a horn-playing Sucs fan with nary a clue..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    those print dots "arn't bad enough"...what? Its the only thing I see on the card. Certainly not everyones 6's look that bad!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...You disagree with the grade? "

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    No.

    I think it's prolly graded about right.

    It does lack eye-appeal TO ME, but certainly not
    everybody would see it that way.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>those print dots "arn't bad enough"...what? Its the only thing I see on the card. Certainly not everyones 6's look that bad! >>



    I'm the one who paid money for it... and I'm happy.
    My Giants collection want list

    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    thats all that counts, the seller is lucky that you are an honest man!

    Kevin
  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Nice card, digi. Are you sure those are print dots? Looks more like gum - which would come right off.

    "Molon Labe"

  • stormsurgestormsurge Posts: 858 ✭✭
    I wish that we didn't have to do it but without question sellers need to use DC with signature confirmation over $250. A small costs gives lots of protection.
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭
    no i would send without DC, not for that much


    nice card for the money
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • sbtrailridersbtrailrider Posts: 253 ✭
    On the other end of the spectrum, I bought a card for $15 + shipping from Levi at 707 and they sent it signature required. I had to stand in line for 30 min at the post office. Talk about overkill....

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    1975 mini's
    1954 Wilson Franks
  • NYYanks23NYYanks23 Posts: 232 ✭
    I always use it now, I learnes the hard way. About two years ago after I got back into the hobby as an adult I began to grade some of my childhood collection and sell some on ebay. I sold one card for $180, and then it was mysteriously lost in the mail, me the idiot had no DC or anything, and was left pissing in the wind! Never again.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>thats all that counts, the seller is lucky that you are an honest man! >>



    Too bad you aren't.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>Nice card, digi. Are you sure those are print dots? Looks more like gum - which would come right off. >>




    Yeah, they're print dots. I checked with my loupe.
    My Giants collection want list

    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
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