Some unknown ancients and a couple of early...

ormandh · February 16, 2009 9:54AM

I have a couple of unknowns for you. The first are some ancients I picked up for cheap, but I really do not know enough to attribute.

Here are a couple that I just can't put my finger on. The first is one that I have seen before, I think. The cross with the bulb and the reverse has what I think is a flying cherub angel(at least that is what it looks like it is). I cannot tell what kind of writing that is in the legend. The second one is middle eastern I am sure, but maybe someone can point me in the right direction of what kind of dialect it is.

Thanks for any help!! -Dan

coachleonard · February 16, 2009 11:50AM

A very nice antoninius (or however they spell it) of Probus-- I think ruled 276-82 A.D; a 4th century Roman bronze not sure of emperor;
a 1580-86 brass jeton of Nuremberg, Germany with the Dodge Lion on one side. Popularly used in Tudor England AND is a type found
at the Jamestown fort site; last piece I can only guess is a c. 1100s-1400s islamic copper fals (?)

ormandh · February 16, 2009 11:53AM

Coach you da' man. You always have an idea about these things. I admire your knowledge! Thanks! I know I have seen that jeton before, but cannot figure out where. -Dan

ColinCMR · February 17, 2009 3:50PM

1st one is

Probus (276-282) AE antoninianus

IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG

SALVS AVG
salus standing left feeding a snake rising from an altar

the one in Van Meter's book has a different legend around Probus, so it might be an interesting variety

Some unknown ancients and a couple of early...

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