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Should PCGS coat their slabs?

PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
NGC just started coating all their slabs with an optical quality hard coating to protect their slabs from scuffing and scratching using a process similar to that used for eye glasses with plastic lenses. Should PCGS adopt a similar process? I hate slabs that are all scratched and scuffed up.

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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    Yes, they should.
  • Yes.

    The new NGC slabs I have have zero scratches on them. You'd have to try pretty hard to put a scratch in it. It's nice to have a completely scratch-free window to view the coin through.
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  • sebrownsebrown Posts: 424 ✭✭
    Yes - I think it would be a much needed improvement.
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,500 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NGC just started coating all their slabs with an optical quality hard coating to protect their slabs from scuffing and scratching using a process similar to that used for eye glasses with plastic lenses. Should PCGS adopt a similar process? I hate slabs that are all scratched and scuffed up. >>



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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>NGC just started coating all their slabs with an optical quality hard coating to protect their slabs from scuffing and scratching using a process similar to that used for eye glasses with plastic lenses. Should PCGS adopt a similar process? I hate slabs that are all scratched and scuffed up. >>



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    You must have a ton of slabs Goldbullyimageimage




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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since we know that slabs are not gas/liquid permeable is there any possibility that some outgassing or other issue could affect the coin inside the coated slab?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Since we know that slabs are not gas/liquid permeable is there any possibility that some outgassing or other issue could affect the coin inside the coated slab? >>



    Slabs are gas permiable. Just ask Manofcoins.

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  • Sounds good to me. Scratches on slabs stink.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that what NGC did with their slabs was a geat idea. I've got a few slabs with scratches, and it drives me nuts. Back when I was a dealer, I rejected a few coins because the slabs were so marked up that I thought it would make it harder to sell the pieces. You can get coins re-slabbed without the risk of getting a lower grade, but that takes time and money. It would be better if the slab companies did what NGC did, and make the slabs less prone to scratching.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Yes, it is about time.

    And I wouldn't mind the option of an anti-reflective coating either. It's just that those can cause a color cast and if they do, i'll pass.

  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    If plastic slabs had coats, it would make it very inconvenient to store them and to view the coins. First, you’d have to unbutton the little coat to see the coin; and second, the coat would take up extra space in the storage box. Then there’s the moth problem and dry cleaning – and what kind of coat to buy for each coin…do 18th Century BU gold pieces get mink or sable, while 20th Century Lincoln cents get polyester???

    I don't think they should wear glasses, either.....
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Even with the new coating the NGC slabs still get scratched although the scratches tend to not be as severe. Although not completely resistant to damage, it is an improvement to the existing product. PCGS should consider treating their holders to a similar standard.
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  • << <i>outgassing >>


    this is a problem I can certainly relate to.


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    << <i>outgassing >>


    this is a problem I can certainly relate to. >>



    Well, if you're slurping water out of a toilet- no wonder. image

    You can get plastic sleeves that fit tight over the slab. I don't know where to get them or what they are called, but I had a dealer that would send all his coins in these.


  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Yes and I think they should make them air tight as well to avoid the milk spotting issue on ASE's.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,736 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Since we know that slabs are not gas/liquid permeable is there any possibility that some outgassing or other issue could affect the coin inside the coated slab? >>


    Just don't feed your coins beans and cabbage before having them slabbed and "outgassing" shouldn't be a problem.
  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭
    can't you put a little scotch guard on the slab? or those lcd-screen protectors that you can buy at WMT and cut to size and stick on?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You can get plastic sleeves that fit tight over the slab. I don't know where to get them or what they are called, but I had a dealer that would send all his coins in these. >>



    I believe these are made for sports cards and they just happen to fit slabs.

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  • There has been a number of times that i didnt buy a coin due to the fact that the slab had a lot of scratches on it. They should definatly put something on the slabs.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yes
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I deal with a lot of slab scratches and I have come to the opposite conclusion of many. I feel like the softer PCGS plastic is much easier to shine and relatively scratch resistent. NGC has harder plastic and it seems to gather more scratches and is much, much harder to shine up.
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ............so how long before slab holders send their pcgs slabs over to ngc for a cross-over??image
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>............so how long before slab holders send their pcgs slabs over to ngc for a cross-over??image >>



    When NGC comes out with a slab the size of the old PCGS rattler. image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>............so how long before slab holders send their pcgs slabs over to ngc for a cross-over??image >>



    When NGC comes out with a slab the size of the old PCGS rattler. image >>




    ................is that ALL it'll take?image
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  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825
    Na, PCGS should seal their slabs.

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