Will PCGS certify a Peace Dollar that has been dipped?

Billet7 · February 13, 2009 3:13AM

I have the most gorgeous peace dollar, but it has been dipped. It is as free from hairlines as can be found...but it has been dipped. Have you ever heard of a PCGS peace dollar that has been dipped. I don't think they would ever certify it, what do you say?

ColonialCoinUnion · February 13, 2009 3:16AM

Ten of thousands of dipped coins are in PCGS slabs.

Coxe · February 13, 2009 3:17AM

Certainly have seen dipped Peace dollars in every TPG holder. They are scrutinizing more these days and have the Genuine holder as a consolation prize. What's the date? There aren't many dates in the series where I would see a point in trying.

Cladiator · February 13, 2009 3:20AM

<< Will PCGS certify a Peace Dollar that has been dipped? >>

Russ · February 13, 2009 3:21AM

Ten of thousands of dipped coins are in PCGS slabs.

Russ, NCNE

DoubleEagle59 · February 13, 2009 3:21AM

I agree.

Thousands of coins have been dipped and certified.

Dipped is NOT cleaned!!

rjsriv · February 13, 2009 3:22AM

"To dip or not to dip" ahh what a quandry-- does it look dipped or not dipped

MikeInFL · February 13, 2009 3:23AM

Hundreds of thousands of dipped coins are in PCGS holders.

crypto79 · February 13, 2009 3:25AM

<< I agree.

Thousands of coins have been dipped and certified.

Dipped is NOT cleaned!! >>

Sometimes it is. esp if it in a mid cir grade level. But for the peace part... I would almost go out on a limb and say 50% of the PCGS peace dollars have been dipped. You have the look and the whole coin not just the skin to determine if it has a chance of slabbing.

Doogy · February 13, 2009 3:33AM

of the two services, if any one of them awards a dipped coin with a higher grade, it seems like PCGS tends to do it more. I know of a lot of examples where a nice MS65 (for example) PCGS/NGC/ANACS lightly toned coin was cracked out, dipped, and re-submitted and got a bump to 66.

ColonialCoinUnion · February 13, 2009 3:41AM

<< Ten of thousands of dipped coins are in PCGS slabs.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree with Russ.

ColonialCoinUnion · February 13, 2009 3:44AM

<< of the two services, if any one of them awards a dipped coin with a higher grade, it seems like PCGS tends to do it more. >>

I totally disagree.

adamlaneus · February 13, 2009 3:44AM

I'm not going to make a judgment on any coin until I see some pictures.

Okay, I lied.

About dipped coins in slabs in general: what other folks said.

A coin can be dipped to the point where the surface is damaged, stripped and/or etched. Those should not slab as easily as a lightly dipped coin.

There are coins that are screwed up enough that you had best find a grading service that is not PCGS to slab the coin.

Let's see it, please? Please?!?

lkeigwin · February 13, 2009 3:48AM

Let's see the coin. How do you know it was dipped? Did you do it? If not, and you can see that it was obviously dipped then I think the chances of grading are slim.

You say it is "most gorgeous". Putting aside the dipping, what do you think of the grade? Many common MS62-63 Peace dollars aren't worth slabbing even if they're gorgeous and haven't been messed with.

Lance.

Russ · February 13, 2009 3:59AM

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<< of the two services, if any one of them awards a dipped coin with a higher grade, it seems like PCGS tends to do it more. >>

I totally disagree. >>

I also disagree, but I can see where that perception comes from. PCGS loves blazing luster, and plenty of collectors assume that blazing luster means a coin has been dipped.

Russ, NCNE

lcoopie · February 13, 2009 4:07AM

I believe most of the previous comments concerned uncirculated coins.

I understand that circulated coins that are dipped may not certify,
they would not be considered to be market acceptable.

Also if an uncirculated coin was over-dipped, stripping out the luster,
then it would not certify.

Comments?

19Lyds · February 13, 2009 5:11AM

I would expect that if the OP thinks the coin has been dipped, that it may have the dull white "dipped out" appearance in which case it might not go into a holder.

TomB · February 13, 2009 6:10AM

They do it everyday and will continue to do so as long as they are in the business of certifying market acceptable coinage.

AUandAG · February 13, 2009 6:38AM

Threre are satin finished (matte) Peace dollars. Perhaps the OP has one?

bob

PS: dipped is cleaned.

Billet7 · February 13, 2009 2:12PM

This is as good a pic as I have, and only of the obverse. It really isn't the best representation, I don't know how you guys take such good pics! I am relatively sure that it is dipped because of the toning pattern, how many peace dollars tone like that? Almost none, they get all milky, speckled and ugly. The other reason is that the luster is a bit harsher than an original coin. I don't think it was dipped a lot, because it still exhibits a cartwheel, but the surfaces are definately not original...at least I have never seen a coin that looked like this that was original. I don't plan on sending it in to certify, I am simply curious if you have seen a PCGS Peace Dollar that has obviously been dipped.

Blackhawk · February 13, 2009 2:31PM

I think that you're safe submitting that one.

PutTogether · February 13, 2009 4:05PM

I spend at least part of the day three times a week looking for peace dollars in pcgs holders that ARENT dipped.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 13, 2009 4:23PM

<< Ten of thousands of dipped coins are in PCGS slabs.

Russ, NCNE >>

Hundreds of thousands is more likely.

BlindedByEgo · February 13, 2009 5:20PM

<< 

<< Ten of thousands of dipped coins are in PCGS slabs.

Russ, NCNE >>

Hundreds of thousands is more likely. >>

Billions. Billions and trillions.

Quite a few, anyway

Rampage · February 13, 2009 8:57PM

Why would you dip that coin? It is a gorgeous and original coin. Dip it and it becomes ho-hum in my opinion.

Billet7 · February 13, 2009 11:36PM

I didn't dip it, nor would I.
I don't usually collect silver dollars, or anything newer than 1900 for that matter. I bought this one because it was nice to look at, and I have started a type set of these "nice to look at coins." I didn't realize silver dollars were dipped so often, that is too bad. Why does everyone want "blazing luster" anyway. I actually get bored of all white coins, am I alone?

Doogy · February 13, 2009 11:58PM

<< 

<< 

<< of the two services, if any one of them awards a dipped coin with a higher grade, it seems like PCGS tends to do it more. >>

I totally disagree. >>

I also disagree, but I can see where that perception comes from. PCGS loves blazing luster, and plenty of collectors assume that blazing luster means a coin has been dipped.

Russ, NCNE >>

blazing luster isn't so blazing under light toning according to many collectors and dealers. Thus, they are willing to dip a classic coin to "bring it out". In my obversation, PCGS tends to reward this type of action more often on the higher grades

ricko · February 14, 2009 12:23AM

That coin NEEDS a dipping. Cheers, RickO

lkeigwin · February 14, 2009 12:59AM

Hard to guess the grade with just one fuzzy obverse but let's guess MS63 worth $80 - $180, depending on the Mint. Does it make sense to slab?

Okay, sometimes it's not about financial logic. I'll give you that.

As for white vs. toning...
Everyone knows well struck, clean, gem or near-gem Peace dollars are very hard to come by. When I find one, I want blast white. I want to see detail and smooth fields, Liberty's pristine cheek and neck. Flaws hide behind tarnish.

We've all seen gorgeous toners. And some dogs. I dislike most toned Peace dollars except special ones. This is okay. But not this. But that's just me.

Lance.

YaHa · February 14, 2009 1:13AM

You dip.. I dip. They all dip..

Will PCGS certify a Peace Dollar that has been dipped?

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