Epic eBay battle for a '66 Jim Brown

ssollars · February 9, 2009 1:36PM

With an SMR of $195 and a VCP Avg of $330... WOW, is all I can say!

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IchiroDeported · February 9, 2009 1:37PM

looks like a juiced scan and an overgraded card.

killingdream · February 9, 2009 1:45PM

I agree about the scan. Those borders are obviously too white. You can't even differentiate between the sky and the border on the right side.

wolfbear · February 9, 2009 2:34PM

The scan may be on steroids,
but that's still a nice looking 8.

Most 1966 Philly cards have an awful tilt to them ...

diamondman · February 9, 2009 2:34PM

Looks like an 8 or an 8.5 to me , rough cut normal, jmo, then again maybe the SMR should be raised. Rough cut is normal for Philadelphia, might be a doctored photo. anybody want to sell me an over graded psa 8 1966 Brown for 90% of SMR.

Dboneesq · February 9, 2009 2:47PM

THE HIGHEST BID, OTHER THAN FROM THE TWO BIDDERS KNOCKING HEADS, IS $135.00!!!!!

rube26105 · February 9, 2009 4:07PM

jim browns rules,
1.get outta my way or ill kll you"

cardbender · February 9, 2009 8:18PM

For those collecting the '66 Phily set, that's a tough card and it looks high-end to me. If the seller was trying to hide something he'd surely use a tiny, shot from the moon scan like many sellers use on ebay. His scan is huge. Maybe too white, but very large to see the detail. Steve's an excellent dealer too.

Edited to add, the SMR doesn't mean a thing on most tougher, low pop vintage Football stars. I've seen the Chuck Howley RC in PSA 8 from this set sell for over $300 and he's not even a HOF'er, at least not yet.

I sold a Mick Tinglehoff PSA 8 once for over $400. Toss out the smr price, it's meaningless.

Bosox1976 · February 9, 2009 8:32PM

Couple of guys who may want to think about a snipe service.....

Stingray · February 9, 2009 9:06PM

Tilted borders on right and left side?? Top and bottom look ok.

cardbender · February 9, 2009 9:23PM

<< Tilted borders on right and left side?? Top and bottom look ok. >>

That's quite common for the '66 set. It bothers some collectors more than others. If it's not too unsightly, a subtle tilt is acceptable to me, although I don't like trapezoid looking cuts. Plus I love the rough cut edges on many of the Phily cards.

celesterussell · February 9, 2009 9:46PM

the smr pricing is useless in general.....

larryallen73 · February 9, 2009 9:51PM

SMR may be useless but VCP is actual recent sales so should be pretty accurate.

ping4u43 · February 9, 2009 11:38PM

Just to bad VCP is hard to use and not user friendly IMO.

gemmintrarities · February 10, 2009 12:59AM

Looks to me like a little shilling going on. The guy bidding it up has a 32% bid activity w/ the seller.

Morgoth · February 10, 2009 1:27AM

This guy has had some major issues getting people their cards on time or "losing" them in the mail. Not a good dealer IMO so shill bidding may not be out of the question for someone like this.

digicat · February 10, 2009 2:04AM

<< 
Looks to me like a little shilling going on. The guy bidding it up has a 32% bid activity w/ the seller.
>>

The guy's dumped 8 bids on this particular item, so that's why his bid percentage is so high with this seller.

WinPitcher · February 10, 2009 2:07AM

Steve Novella is one of the best dealers around.

Shilling auctions? No need.

He gets the prices that he does because he sells quality and
comes through with no BS.

People will pay a premium for ease of transaction.

Steve

WinPitcher · February 10, 2009 2:09AM

Morgoth are you talking about steve novella?

I find that hard to believe.

Off to toolhaus I go.

Steve

WinPitcher · February 10, 2009 2:11AM

"This guy has had some major issues getting people their cards on time or "losing" them in the mail. Not a good dealer IMO so shill bidding may not be out of the question for someone like this."

Where did you get this info? Toolhaus has 1 withdrawn 0 negs and 0 neuts in over 10 years of selling.

I think you have this seller confused with someone else. I have never heard a bad word about

Steve.

Steve

Morgoth · February 10, 2009 2:14AM

Sorry I am wrong I was thinking of Block not Novella.

digicat · February 10, 2009 2:17AM

<< People will pay a premium for ease of transaction. >>

I think there are just 2 crazed collectors bidding on this item.

stown · February 10, 2009 2:17AM

EPIC!!!

WinPitcher · February 10, 2009 3:45AM

I was referring to his auctions in general, not that auction in particular.

In any event those 2 are willing to pay that premium.

Steve

BigDaddyBowman · February 10, 2009 8:25AM

Since the 8 is going for almost a grand..I will gladly offer my 7 for a mere $500

Let the bidding begin!

perkdog · February 10, 2009 9:10AM

Steve Novella is a first rate seller, about two months ago I completed a $2500 transaction with him and it was flawless! I got my cards in about 3 days, GREAT guy and GREAT seller IMO.

bobbyw8469 · February 10, 2009 10:36AM

I sent my $2,000 card next day air as well!!! Most good sellers will do that sort of thing! Anyway, this thing is over $1,000!

ssollars · February 10, 2009 10:52AM

<< 

<< People will pay a premium for ease of transaction. >>

I think there are just 2 crazed collectors bidding on this item. >>

Two more have surfaced! 5 mins to go... will there be a sniping frenzy?

ssollars · February 10, 2009 11:03AM

<< Two more have surfaced! 5 mins to go... will there be a sniping frenzy?

>>

Nope, I guess $1025 was the magic number!

ssollars · February 10, 2009 11:09AM

Someone has been paying attention...

Another one

ironranger · February 10, 2009 11:28AM

Tough card from a great set. The 66 and 67 Philly set are really unusual in that there are many low pop cards. It appears the rarity is due to condition (poor cuts) than being single prints.

goraiders · February 10, 2009 11:31AM

I hope another comes up as well,that way those 2 guys have there's
and I can get mine a little cheaper.My snipe was no good yesterday

J.R.

wolfbear · February 10, 2009 11:47AM

<< Someone has been paying attention...

Another one

>>

Not really a high end 8 if you care about centering,
but if you're just chasing numbers on a flip I guess it would do :

packCollector · February 10, 2009 12:19PM

having owned my share of 66 phillys, centering and tilts are a killer. it is difficult to look at a vcp price without looking at the cards as there is a wide range within the grade and many cards are jsut downright brutal to get in high grade.

this brown was a beauty , went for a big premium, but probably not as much as some will think when you factor in the appeal of the card to others that are available

cardbender · February 10, 2009 6:23PM

So what's a 9 of this card worth?

craigger · February 10, 2009 8:17PM

I am very happy with the RAW one I bought on EBAY last month for $60. It came back PSA6...good enough for me!

WinPitcher · February 10, 2009 8:32PM

The newest one for sale will probably not sell.

Steve

Epic eBay battle for a '66 Jim Brown

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