"...5. With much of the stuff being sold without holding it in your hand (ebay/internet), I question how valuable it will be for prospective buyers..."
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Light almost always makes the roaches run away.
If newbies are educated, they will be afraid to buy non-slabbed material. Once a large segment of the market knows about the frauds, it will become more difficult for the crooks to profit.
If the site/manual is properly promoted, the story will be in the mainstream media quickly. KO would love to have somebody to interview on the subject.
Such public exposure will encourage EBAY to knock it off. EBAY almost single-handedly killed stamp collecting - turned it into sticker collecting - because nobody was ringing the alarm loud enough until it was too late.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
I have inherited my father's stamp collection, but have never really looked through it to determine its value or anything and would be curious to know any info about the ebay problems before checking information on "sold" items
How the heck would you reseal a rack? I just cant see how it is possible with the thin wrapping and dividers inbetween the 3 stacks.I guess if there is money involved anything can be done.I think the worst are loose vending boxes.Ive bought plenty from 1980,1977,1983 etc and would you believe I got none of the key cards at all.I wouldnt think you would have to reseal old racks and cellos because of the collation of the cards.people cherry pick the boxes and know which to keep.A funny story about blaster boxes, I went to target and couldnt resist one more goudey blaster so i bought it.I got home the shrink wrap had the bottom missing and all the packs were already opened.Some people are just scum,thats staling basically.So if you buy these retail box check the outside very very carefully and make sure the wrapping has the card manufacture logo on it not just some generic wrap.I also know someone who got a wad of newspaper inside a blaster.I hate these people so much
Racks can be resealed 2 ways that I know of. One is more simpler than the other. I think they would reseal them to pull high grade and insert a star on top to get 3x or so normal value.
On Blasters- Yes look at the wrap. I have another corcern with these but afraid to post it here publically. Unsure if it could work as I have never tried. PM me?
<< <i>What was the deal with ebay and stamp collecting?
I have inherited my father's stamp collection, but have never really looked through it to determine its value or anything and would be curious to know any info about the ebay problems before checking information on "sold" items >>
The technology is such that absent help from high-end experts - like those that do PSE work - it is not safe to buy expensive stamps.
EBAY has allowed "replica" - read: COUNTERFEIT - stamps to be sold on its site for YEARS. The items started leaking into the real market in 1999 and are now everywhere.
Once a fake changes hands once or twice, it becomes real. Amateurs get burned and exit the hobby FAST; never to return.
I know some things about stamps. I would NOT buy any unslabbed stamp on EBAY. I don't even trust the certificates with photos; I would ONLY buy slabbed stuff and break it out.
There are fakes of cheap stamps and expensive stamps on EBAY. I think of ALL of them as stickers.
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A similar circumstance will come to cards, as soon as the tech becomes a bit better.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
Are you doing some kind of "test" for the book/blog/articles you are writing? It seems you went from counterfeit packs to counterfeit cards. Your intent is becoming a bit questionable.
<< <i>I consider myself a fairly savvy individual when looking at wax packs, and being able to spot whether a pack as been resealed or altered in anyway. I am creating a book right now that points out what steps to look for when dealing with a questionable wax pack.
My question is, is it possible to reseal a rack pack without visual evidence of tampering? I would love to add this kind of info in my book. I have been asked many times in regards to racks and cellos. This way I can pass out my findings to all CU members. If there is a method and how to spot it. I would be very interested in finding out how it is done. This way I am more educated and I will look more thoroughly at a rack before I purchase it. Plus I can add the facts to my book as well.
If you could please PM me directly if you do know the way/ways these packs get resealed. You will be a huge help in educating CU’s members. Like I said if you could just please PM me any info instead of posting it to the thread. I would hate to see that kind of info in the wrong person’s hands.
Thanks >>
I could write the book and you could just put your name on it.
Be grateful then Digdug because I'm sure it is simply because you did not get caught.
Or are you saying that you jave never done anything wrong??
Want to out him for something hobby related by all means do it, to drag up an arrest record (one which I may add) you are not 100% sure it was even him IMO was lame.
The kid was 19 for chrisakes for that alone you should have cut him some slack.
I don't usually stick up for people, but the guy is at least asking for a honest answer for his book. (???maybe???) its all ways better to be sure than make crap up. I'm sure there have been quite a few of us that has been screwed over before and and John is just trying to help people out. Take the Farve thing for an example, if he knew about the counter fit thing, i'm sure he wouldn't of bought it. now he knows and i'm sure he won't buy another one.
John, ask if your not sure.
Bill looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up sets in progress R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
I don't have dirty laundry. I try to be a productive, ethical member of society. >>
Oh, please.. If you don't have any dirty laundry, you haven't lived much.
I was arrested back in the day as well. Back when I was around 21, I beat the heck out of 3 guys that jumped me one night over a girl, and I got arrested and charged with assault. Later is was all disposed of by a good lawyer. Lesson learned, and I realized I had to calm down quite a bit when I got married, started a family, and got saved. I have not been in any trouble since, but we all have flaws/skeletons from our past. No one is perfect, that's for sure.
08/1991 - DUI & minor under the influence 02/1995 - Aggravated Assault 11/21/1996 (my birthday) - Assault & Battery (Don't mess with the skinny guy crouched in the ninja pose) 02/1999 - Illiegal use of a weapon (Do not shoot a .22 in city limits)
Bill that doesn't even qualify as a dirty pair of shorts compared to my record. Although you seem like an angry person.
5 counts, Break and Enter with theft (the buildings were kind of abandoned, and I was 16, and we were drunk. 5 counts, Possesion of marijuana, one with intent to traffic. 3 counts, Drunk driving, that's a Hat trick. 1 count, Driving while prohibited. 1 count, Speeding. Strangely this is on my record???
And I only spent 97 days in jail.
I should be ashamed of all that but I don't care, it's not who I am now, but it's a part of me forever.
There is two nightcrawlers on the CU....maybe I am the only one that was confused by that.
I have to agree with the last few posters, if you have a spotless record, it is unlikely you have lived life. At the same time, if you have a list longer then Nightcrawler...you should likely slow down.
Only have one thing on my record, Possesion of marijuana. I was raided several years ago because of having scales, baggies and the like everywhere. This despite the fact I had a real non-drug reason for all of it (selling meteorites, which we cut into small pieces and weight by the gram) and had not done anything to anyone. And no, I'm not bitter about it. (Okay maybe a little).
I was also a runaway for much of my later teen years...but I guess just got lucky and never got caught doing anything.
Edit to add: I also filed bankruptcy about 10 years ago for hospital bills. Not that bankruptcy is something to be ashamed about now days, but in the past, it would likely be viewed different.
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Comments
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Light almost always makes the roaches run away.
If newbies are educated, they will be afraid to buy non-slabbed material.
Once a large segment of the market knows about the frauds, it will
become more difficult for the crooks to profit.
If the site/manual is properly promoted, the story will be in the mainstream
media quickly. KO would love to have somebody to interview on the subject.
Such public exposure will encourage EBAY to knock it off. EBAY almost
single-handedly killed stamp collecting - turned it into sticker collecting -
because nobody was ringing the alarm loud enough until it was too late.
I have inherited my father's stamp collection, but have never really looked through it to determine its value or anything and would be curious to know any info about the ebay problems before checking information on "sold" items
On Blasters- Yes look at the wrap. I have another corcern with these but afraid to post it here publically. Unsure if it could work as I have never tried. PM me?
<< <i>What was the deal with ebay and stamp collecting?
I have inherited my father's stamp collection, but have never really looked through it to determine its value or anything and would be curious to know any info about the ebay problems before checking information on "sold" items >>
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One Page On Stamp Fraud via EBAY
Encyclopedia On Stamp Fraud via EBAY
Fakes and Forgeries On EBAY
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The technology is such that absent help from high-end experts - like those that do PSE work - it is not
safe to buy expensive stamps.
EBAY has allowed "replica" - read: COUNTERFEIT - stamps to be sold on its site for YEARS. The items
started leaking into the real market in 1999 and are now everywhere.
Once a fake changes hands once or twice, it becomes real. Amateurs get burned and exit the hobby
FAST; never to return.
I know some things about stamps. I would NOT buy any unslabbed stamp on EBAY. I don't even
trust the certificates with photos; I would ONLY buy slabbed stuff and break it out.
There are fakes of cheap stamps and expensive stamps on EBAY. I think of ALL of them as stickers.
........
A similar circumstance will come to cards, as soon as the tech becomes a bit better.
<< <i>What chapter of your book will discuss resealed counterfeit 1991 Score Brett Farve rookies? >>
Steve
<< <i>I don't feel the need to defend myself anymore. Why would I want to share this? So everyone can just poke fun of it. No thanks >>
BUCK UP LITTLE CAMPER
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
<< <i>I don't feel the need to defend myself anymore. Why would I want to share this? So everyone can just poke fun of it. No thanks >>
It's too late, Fandango has already added you to his "LIST" and I'm pretty sure he has his eye on you.
<< <i>I consider myself a fairly savvy individual when looking at wax packs, and being able to spot whether a pack as been resealed or altered in anyway. I am creating a book right now that points out what steps to look for when dealing with a questionable wax pack.
My question is, is it possible to reseal a rack pack without visual evidence of tampering? I would love to add this kind of info in my book. I have been asked many times in regards to racks and cellos. This way I can pass out my findings to all CU members. If there is a method and how to spot it. I would be very interested in finding out how it is done. This way I am more educated and I will look more thoroughly at a rack before I purchase it. Plus I can add the facts to my book as well.
If you could please PM me directly if you do know the way/ways these packs get resealed. You will be a huge help in educating CU’s members. Like I said if you could just please PM me any info instead of posting it to the thread. I would hate to see that kind of info in the wrong person’s hands.
Thanks >>
I could write the book and you could just put your name on it.
sorry winpitcher.
Crawl back under your rock digdug.
Steve
I got arrested for pot back in 1986
just in case some troll wants to mention it.
Steve
Just have a hard time trusting people that lie.
I'll take it down now because I don't want to accuse him of something like this.
I apologize.
Edited to add....I have taken part in many group rips and got screwed by Gary. Just a little skeptical of people now.
from when you were 19? cmon man.
Steve
I don't have dirty laundry. I try to be a productive, ethical member of society.
Or are you saying that you jave never done anything wrong??
Want to out him for something hobby related by all means do it, to drag up an arrest
record (one which I may add) you are not 100% sure it was even him IMO was lame.
The kid was 19 for chrisakes for that alone you should have cut him some slack.
Steve
Kiss my a...
John, ask if your not sure.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
<< <i>Steve,
I don't have dirty laundry. I try to be a productive, ethical member of society. >>
Oh, please.. If you don't have any dirty laundry, you haven't lived much.
I was arrested back in the day as well. Back when I was around 21, I beat the heck out of 3 guys that jumped me one night over a girl, and I got arrested and charged with assault. Later is was all disposed of by a good lawyer. Lesson learned, and I realized I had to calm down quite a bit when I got married, started a family, and got saved. I have not been in any trouble since, but we all have flaws/skeletons from our past. No one is perfect, that's for sure.
Steve
<< <i>I don't have dirty laundry. I try to be a productive, ethical member of society. >>
Me neither, unless you count all those times I sold dope disguised as a Nun.
08/1991 - DUI & minor under the influence
02/1995 - Aggravated Assault
11/21/1996 (my birthday) - Assault & Battery (Don't mess with the skinny guy crouched in the ninja pose)
02/1999 - Illiegal use of a weapon (Do not shoot a .22 in city limits)
Bill that doesn't even qualify as a dirty pair of shorts compared to my record. Although you seem like an angry person.
5 counts, Break and Enter with theft (the buildings were kind of abandoned, and I was 16, and we were drunk.
5 counts, Possesion of marijuana, one with intent to traffic.
3 counts, Drunk driving, that's a Hat trick.
1 count, Driving while prohibited.
1 count, Speeding. Strangely this is on my record???
And I only spent 97 days in jail.
I should be ashamed of all that but I don't care, it's not who I am now, but it's a part of me forever.
<< <i>And I only spent 97 days in jail.
I should be ashamed of all that but I don't care, it's not who I am now, but it's a part of me forever >>
Only a couple hours each time for me. I'm obviously not ashamed either. I won' be running for president any time soon.
I have to agree with the last few posters, if you have a spotless record, it is unlikely you have lived life. At the same time, if you have a list longer then Nightcrawler...you should likely slow down.
Only have one thing on my record, Possesion of marijuana. I was raided several years ago because of having scales, baggies and the like everywhere. This despite the fact I had a real non-drug reason for all of it (selling meteorites, which we cut into small pieces and weight by the gram) and had not done anything to anyone. And no, I'm not bitter about it. (Okay maybe a little).
I was also a runaway for much of my later teen years...but I guess just got lucky and never got caught doing anything.
Edit to add: I also filed bankruptcy about 10 years ago for hospital bills. Not that bankruptcy is something to be ashamed about now days, but in the past, it would likely be viewed different.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.