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How the hell is my shipping/handling charge DSR at 4.8 when shipping is free?
How the hell is my shipping/handling charge DSR at 4.8 when shipping is free?
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you fell for the free shipping garbage. my DSR ratings are the same as yours lol and charge full fare +$1
why lose money to ebay? or give them the extra fees....
Also my shipping time rating is 4.8 but I ship every auction the next day after payment. Sometimes (actually alot of the time) the same day.
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Be glad its 4.8!
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Your shipping is only free?
How about offering a reverse shipping charge.
When you send out the item for nothing,
include a few bucks in the envelope for the buyer.
After all, he has to walk out to his mailbox just to get your package.
Good luck! Should improve your star rating!
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I just start the auctions 5.00 to 10.00 higher then I normally would.
Works for me as of late.
Usually it costs less then 5.00 to ship one magazine, the box is free.
It is a no brainer as far as I am concerned.
i noticed I get more and higher bids too.
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Steve
No 4 is not good. Itll strip your powerseller status!!
Dec was unreal coming in I was runnin 5,4.9,4.9,4.8 then the siskel and eberts came lol. Folks that dont know the card gig though they did tend to pay unrealistic prices as well anyway now Im sittin 4.9,4..8,4.7,4.7 so comin back till the next mail runs slow again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have been an ebay member for about 4 years now and i think i left 1 neg feedback (before the new crap started) just because i sold a card and took about a month to receive payment with numerous reminders.
I all ways look at shipping charges before i bid. if i think it is to much, i simply don't bid. it shouldn't cost no more than a buck or two, to ship a card (bubble mailer included).
i guess the point i am trying to make, is if your not happy with the shipping price, don't bid unless you REALY need the card.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
<< <i>offer free cards.. to me.
i have been an ebay member for about 4 years now and i think i left 1 neg feedback (before the new crap started) just because i sold a card and took about a month to receive payment with numerous reminders.
I all ways look at shipping charges before i bid. if i think it is to much, i simply don't bid. it shouldn't cost no more than a buck or two, to ship a card (bubble mailer included).
i guess the point i am trying to make, is if your not happy with the shipping price, don't bid unless you REALY need the card. >>
Bill,
That depends. For example, if you don't sell a lot, and don't buy bubble mailers in bulk(I use to sell a lot and bought in bulk, but not anymore due to the Ebay changes).
Here is what I have found as of late;
My local Walmart has increased the price of 1 small bubble mailer to $ .80. Then, you take the $1.60-$1.90 for first class shipping, plus $ .75 for delivery confirmation(I don't use Paypal dc, since I like them all scanned over the counter in front of me just to be sure). Add that up, and with no insurance added to the package that totals $3.15 at a minimum. That does not even count the extra gas to Walmart for the bubble mailer, or the trip to the post office.
I don't think a lot of Ebay buyers even have a clue what it costs a seller to deliver their product anymore.
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<< <i>offer free cards.. to me.
i have been an ebay member for about 4 years now and i think i left 1 neg feedback (before the new crap started) just because i sold a card and took about a month to receive payment with numerous reminders.
I all ways look at shipping charges before i bid. if i think it is to much, i simply don't bid. it shouldn't cost no more than a buck or two, to ship a card (bubble mailer included).
i guess the point i am trying to make, is if your not happy with the shipping price, don't bid unless you REALY need the card. >>
Bill,
That depends. For example, if you don't sell a lot, and don't buy bubble mailers in bulk(I use to sell a lot and bought in bulk, but not anymore due to the Ebay changes).
Here is what I have found as of late;
My local Walmart has increased the price of 1 small bubble mailer to $ .80. Then, you take the $1.60-$1.90 for first class shipping, plus $ .75 for delivery confirmation(I don't use Paypal dc, since I like them all scanned over the counter in front of me just to be sure). Add that up, and with no insurance added to the package that totals $3.15 at a minimum. That does not even count the extra gas to Walmart for the bubble mailer, or the trip to the post office.
I don't think a lot of Ebay buyers even have a clue what it costs a seller to deliver their product anymore. >>
Stan,
please don't take this the wrong way but i hate people who try and make a buck trying to sell a card. they throw some crap a*s card up with the winning bid for a dime and want 4 bucks for shipping. why? to make a dollar. another example is you win a HIGH dollar card, (a couple hundred bucks and up) and they still charge shipping fees. i seen a auction the other day with the winning bidder paid around 2500 dollars and $7.95 shipping. you think you'd get free shipping.
it just may be me, but i refuse to pay more than $3.00 shipping on a single card
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Here is what I have found as of late;
Stan,
please don't take this the wrong way but i hate people who try and make a buck trying to sell a card. they throw some crap a*s card up with the winning bid for a dime and want 4 bucks for shipping. why? to make a dollar. another example is you win a HIGH dollar card, (a couple hundred bucks and up) and they still charge shipping fees. i seen a auction the other day with the winning bidder paid around 2500 dollars and $7.95 shipping. you think you'd get free shipping.
it just may be me, but i refuse to pay more than $3.00 shipping on a single card >>
on that 2500 card the seller is out around $200 for paypal and ebay fees...to properly ship a card that value is going to be another $20....just because a card sells for a lot does not mean it's all profit for the seller. the seller could have 3K into that card and could very well be losing money on the deal. $8 to ship a $2500, if shipped properly, is a bargain.
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<< <i>offer free cards.. to me.
i have been an ebay member for about 4 years now and i think i left 1 neg feedback (before the new crap started) just because i sold a card and took about a month to receive payment with numerous reminders.
I all ways look at shipping charges before i bid. if i think it is to much, i simply don't bid. it shouldn't cost no more than a buck or two, to ship a card (bubble mailer included).
i guess the point i am trying to make, is if your not happy with the shipping price, don't bid unless you REALY need the card. >>
Bill,
That depends. For example, if you don't sell a lot, and don't buy bubble mailers in bulk(I use to sell a lot and bought in bulk, but not anymore due to the Ebay changes).
Here is what I have found as of late;
My local Walmart has increased the price of 1 small bubble mailer to $ .80. Then, you take the $1.60-$1.90 for first class shipping, plus $ .75 for delivery confirmation(I don't use Paypal dc, since I like them all scanned over the counter in front of me just to be sure). Add that up, and with no insurance added to the package that totals $3.15 at a minimum. That does not even count the extra gas to Walmart for the bubble mailer, or the trip to the post office.
I don't think a lot of Ebay buyers even have a clue what it costs a seller to deliver their product anymore. >>
Stan,
please don't take this the wrong way but i hate people who try and make a buck trying to sell a card. they throw some crap a*s card up with the winning bid for a dime and want 4 bucks for shipping. why? to make a dollar. another example is you win a HIGH dollar card, (a couple hundred bucks and up) and they still charge shipping fees. i seen a auction the other day with the winning bidder paid around 2500 dollars and $7.95 shipping. you think you'd get free shipping.
it just may be me, but i refuse to pay more than $3.00 shipping on a single card >>
As long as the seller charges reasonably close to the exact rate it costs to ship the item, then I personally don't see a problem if it costs them $3-$4 to mail the item to me. I certainly don't expect the seller to be out the money to ship my item. On the other hand, I don't think a seller should make money on shipping, by gouging the buyer, either.
"No 4 is not good. Itll strip your powerseller status!!"
That may be true, however the way the thing is set up a 4 is good.
Ebay tells buyers that 4 is good then tells sellers that 4 will get them suspended. lol
Steve
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<< <i>offer free cards.. to me.
i have been an ebay member for about 4 years now and i think i left 1 neg feedback (before the new crap started) just because i sold a card and took about a month to receive payment with numerous reminders.
I all ways look at shipping charges before i bid. if i think it is to much, i simply don't bid. it shouldn't cost no more than a buck or two, to ship a card (bubble mailer included).
i guess the point i am trying to make, is if your not happy with the shipping price, don't bid unless you REALY need the card. >>
Bill,
That depends. For example, if you don't sell a lot, and don't buy bubble mailers in bulk(I use to sell a lot and bought in bulk, but not anymore due to the Ebay changes).
Here is what I have found as of late;
My local Walmart has increased the price of 1 small bubble mailer to $ .80. Then, you take the $1.60-$1.90 for first class shipping, plus $ .75 for delivery confirmation(I don't use Paypal dc, since I like them all scanned over the counter in front of me just to be sure). Add that up, and with no insurance added to the package that totals $3.15 at a minimum. That does not even count the extra gas to Walmart for the bubble mailer, or the trip to the post office.
I don't think a lot of Ebay buyers even have a clue what it costs a seller to deliver their product anymore. >>
Stan,
please don't take this the wrong way but i hate people who try and make a buck trying to sell a card. they throw some crap a*s card up with the winning bid for a dime and want 4 bucks for shipping. why? to make a dollar. another example is you win a HIGH dollar card, (a couple hundred bucks and up) and they still charge shipping fees. i seen a auction the other day with the winning bidder paid around 2500 dollars and $7.95 shipping. you think you'd get free shipping.
it just may be me, but i refuse to pay more than $3.00 shipping on a single card >>
As long as the seller charges reasonably close to the exact rate it costs to ship the item, then I personally don't see a problem if it costs them $3-$4 to mail the item to me. I certainly don't expect the seller to be out the money to ship my item. On the other hand, I don't think a seller should make money on shipping, by gouging the buyer, either. >>
my point exactly.. so why should Bill get docked for shipping when its free.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Steve
<< <i>"No 4 is not good. Itll strip your powerseller status!!"
That may be true, however the way the thing is set up a 4 is good.
Ebay tells buyers that 4 is good then tells sellers that 4 will get them suspended. lol
Steve >>
That is the big problem with DSR. Unfortunately, the DSR thing is just one of the many things wrong with eBay.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
I never said Bill should. Not at all. I said with the way some clowns on Ebay think, it's pretty darn good to be able to maintain a 4.8 dsr rating.
Quick question;
So if it costs the seller $4 or so to mail your card to you, you will refuse to pay the shipping? Who do you feel is responsibile for all the shipping costs of your purchase? Just curious?
<< <i>...plus $ .75 for delivery confirmation(I don't use Paypal dc, since I like them all scanned over the counter in front of me just to be sure). >>
You can use Paypal MultiOrder Shipping (even if you are just shipping one item) and print out a SCAN form to take to the Post Office and have them scan into the system.
This proves you shipped the item just as effectively as the green label DC and you still pay $0.18 vs. $0.75.
Like you, I didn't want to just drop off items without having them scanned in and hope they would be scanned at delivery. This way if the seller checks the tracking number, they see it was dropped off at the Post Office rather than the generic "Electronic Notification Of Shipment" status. Plus it shows how quickly you shipped something if it gets delayed in transit.
Snorto~
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<< <i>...plus $ .75 for delivery confirmation(I don't use Paypal dc, since I like them all scanned over the counter in front of me just to be sure). >>
You can use Paypal MultiOrder Shipping (even if you are just shipping one item) and print out a SCAN form to take to the Post Office and have them scan into the system.
This proves you shipped the item just as effectively as the green label DC and you still pay $0.18 vs. $0.75.
Like you, I didn't want to just drop off items without having them scanned in and hope they would be scanned at delivery. This way if the seller checks the tracking number, they see it was dropped off at the Post Office rather than the generic "Electronic Notification Of Shipment" status. Plus it shows how quickly you shipped something if it gets delayed in transit.
Snorto~ >>
True, but when my hunk of junk printer ran out of ink, I have not used it since. I never liked the thing, as it was garbage from the start. I tossed it in storage, and there it has sat for over a year. That cuts off $ .57 by going that way you mentioned though.
<< <i><<my point exactly.. so why should Bill get docked for shipping when its free.>>
I never said Bill should. Not at all. I said with the way some clowns on Ebay think, it's pretty darn good to be able to maintain a 4.8 dsr rating.
Quick question;
So if it costs the seller $4 or so to mail your card to you, you will refuse to pay the shipping? Who do you feel is responsibile for all the shipping costs of your purchase? Just curious? >>
if i am paying 4 dollars for shipping on a card, i better get it in the next two days. of corse the seller is responsible for the shipping cost and at the same time i think they are making up for the ebay fee, packing material and whatever else. what your saying is its all good to sell a $.50 card for $4.00?
here is a great example. i bought 450 card savers I's from DONRUSS for 25 bucks shipping included. shipping was $10.45 alone. I know they cost a lot more than that. great guy. not some one who tries and charges to make a buck.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
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<< <i><<my point exactly.. so why should Bill get docked for shipping when its free.>>
I never said Bill should. Not at all. I said with the way some clowns on Ebay think, it's pretty darn good to be able to maintain a 4.8 dsr rating.
Quick question;
So if it costs the seller $4 or so to mail your card to you, you will refuse to pay the shipping? Who do you feel is responsibile for all the shipping costs of your purchase? Just curious? >>
if i am paying 4 dollars for shipping on a card, i better get it in the next two days. of corse the seller is responsible for the shipping cost and at the same time i think they are making up for the ebay fee, packing material and whatever else. what your saying is its all good to sell a $.50 card for $4.00?
here is a great example. i bought 450 card savers I's from DONRUSS for 25 bucks shipping included. shipping was $10.45 alone. I know they cost a lot more than that. great guy. not some one who tries and charges to make a buck. >>
How can you expect to recieve your item within 2 days of paying $4 for shipping? Priority Mail is more than $4 without deliver confirm, and you can't even purchase USPS Priority for $4. That sounds unreasonable to me.
How can you expect to recieve your item within 2 days of paying $4 for shipping? Priority Mail is more than $4 without deliver confirm, and you can't even purchase USPS Priority for $4. That sounds unreasonable to me. >>
that was a joke! just saying to much to me for shipping
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
<< <i>No I don't need any cheese with my wine.
How the hell is my shipping/handling charge DSR at 4.8 when shipping is free? >>
Its these same people that have the right to vote.
Scary , but their party could not survive without.
With the current crop of "buyers" on EBAY, it is often
prudent for sellers of cheap stuff to simply throw it in
the garbage rather than pay EBAY for the privilege of
"selling" it.
Sigh- the shipping conversation.
I kinda relate it to tipping. I mean what gives you'll cry about sh but you'll tip the beer girl an extra 5% because she smiled with you flirted and good service oh and she looked good correct!!!! If she was horrible you still feel inclined to leave 15%
Why dont you look at as your tipping the seller 15% for providing you with a card your happy with and you collect. Its something that you own and can look at everyday he listed it packaged and drove to the po stood in line and drove home. Gee what more could you ask for oh yeah he sorted found it and sent it in to be graded. Alot of work is done to gripe about sh. Then the fees fees fees fees.
I mean whats the big deal if a seller starts out with a 4.99 with free or .99 with four............or a bin of 2.99 with 2.00...........sellers have it worked out so they profit and not ebay or break even on the fees. If your a big seller and dont well you might be losing. If you dont sell on ebay then I could see what your peav might be. But try selling once get your statement then figure it all out you might tend to understand why. Now the bigboys charging 4.00 thats loony but I have no hassles with 3. Figure out what they pocket a month on 4.00 selling a 1000+ cards a month it pays almost an avg house payment.
Even if a guy lists it at .99 cent with 5.00 sh who cares the same total is going to be paid out of your pocket. He's just trying to elude the fees. Who should make the money the seller or ebay? I think the 15% ebay n paypal fee is loony UNTIL the have a 30 day auction listing then I'll gladly pay the 15 with a smile.
Steve
Figured you were kidding! Ebay just has me in a roar with all the hodge-podge bs. Id really love to be an intern for a month just to see how the blind leads the blind. Im pretty sure any 10 yr vet buyer and seller of ebay could run ebay better.
3.00 aint that bad. Especially if a seller is willing to combine multiple items. I would think if you want all the cards in top loaders, and cardboard and bubble mailer and D.C. etc. your not gonna complain too much are you?
<< <i>Well I think I got you beat.. I got a 4.4 for Item descrtiption, and all I sold over the last month has been PSA graded cards.. go figure.... >>
thats a rough one.
ebay has positioned themselves to have the buyers and sellers against each other in these situations with the high fees all around and requirements of paypal in order to be protected, i.e. delivery confirmation, signature confirmation, etc. the whole dsr joke is there in order for ebay to have raised their fees the last time but argue that they didnt really raise them for sellers who kept up xxx drs averages, which of course if virtually impossible due to the fact that many buyers dont understand them. it is in ebay's best interest to have the buyers think that 4 stars is good when in fact it is bad for the sellers. i actually explain that in every one of my listings. it is pathetic how some sellers offer free shipping yet do not have 5 stars in that dsr category. personally i think the whole dsr thing is an insult to sellers.
just my .02
<< <i>my opinion on the shipping argument is that as long as it is clearly stated, i dont care at all how much is charged as long as it is package well. i include the shipping price into my bid price. if i want to pay $20 total for a card and shipping is $6, then i set a snipe for $14. what difference does it make to me if i paid $19 for the card and $1 shipping or $1 for the card and $19 shipping? it is still the same total which i was willing to pay............ >>
Pat, please stop with your logical responses. Why would anyone want to hear you well thought out comments, when it's so much easier for them to complain that the $1.46 shipping is too high.
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<< <i>my opinion on the shipping argument is that as long as it is clearly stated, i dont care at all how much is charged as long as it is package well. i include the shipping price into my bid price. if i want to pay $20 total for a card and shipping is $6, then i set a snipe for $14. what difference does it make to me if i paid $19 for the card and $1 shipping or $1 for the card and $19 shipping? it is still the same total which i was willing to pay............ >>
Pat, please stop with your logical responses. Why would anyone want to hear you well thought out comments, when it's so much easier for them to complain that the $1.46 shipping is too high.
Yeah, really-- there's no place for trouble-makers like you here, Pat. This post is far to rational and level-headed to have been created by a CU regular, so I'm assuming you cut and pasted this from somewhere.
If you want to b**ch about nickels and dimes, though, you can jump in on the 1980 Cello thread and whine that the Ex-Nm HOFers that were showing on your packs weren't of the same caliber as the Ex-Nm HOFers that were showing on the other guys' packs. That might help get you back into the spirit of things around here.
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<< <i>my opinion on the shipping argument is that as long as it is clearly stated, i dont care at all how much is charged as long as it is package well. i include the shipping price into my bid price. if i want to pay $20 total for a card and shipping is $6, then i set a snipe for $14. what difference does it make to me if i paid $19 for the card and $1 shipping or $1 for the card and $19 shipping? it is still the same total which i was willing to pay............ >>
Pat, please stop with your logical responses. Why would anyone want to hear you well thought out comments, when it's so much easier for them to complain that the $1.46 shipping is too high.
Yeah, really-- there's no place for trouble-makers like you here, Pat. This post is far to rational and level-headed to have been created by a CU regular, so I'm assuming you cut and pasted this from somewhere.
If you want to b**ch about nickels and dimes, though, you can jump in on the 1980 Cello thread and whine that the Ex-Nm HOFers that were showing on your packs weren't of the same caliber as the Ex-Nm HOFers that were showing on the other guys' packs. That might help get you back into the spirit of things around here. >>
I think you'd find that 90% of the folks would combine shipping, and if your bidding on that many multiple items from a seller; just drop them an email and ask what their policy is. Communication solves most problems
<< <i>My only complaint about shipping charges is when there is no cap on multiple items won. I understand that the buyer has every right to not bid based on the stated shipping charges and that it's your own fault if you do, but there's something really galling about paying $52 in shipping for 25 cards. ($4 for the first auction and $2 for each additional auction won). >>
Yes, except you aren't paying for 'shipping'; you're paying for the cards.
If I have a card that sells for $10 with 'free shipping', and another that sells for $4, but I add $3 in shipping to that, a $1 Wildlife Preservation charge, and a $2 Save the Children surcharge, how can anyone argue that these two deals should not be seen equally by the buyer? You pay what you pay; who cares how the seller chooses to dissect the cost? The only reason the seller calls this a 'shipping' charge to to circumvent Ebay's fees. In point of fact, it's really just the price of the cards themselves.
Also, When you pay high shipping you're helping the seller get out of paying Ebay costs. This, in turn, will over time REDUCE your total cost. Who doesn't benefit from this, aside from Ebay??
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How so?
I recently bid on an auction that lists the shipping price as "actual cost." I went to the USPS website, overestimated on every statistic, and found a priority mail price of $12.00. So I bid.
Well, now, after I've bid, eBay has calculated a shipping price (that wasn't there when I bid), and it is listed at $24.
I wouldn't have bid if I would have known this. I was expecting $15 between shipping and supplies.
I'm a little irked by it, but what can I do I guess? Fortunately it's only $9 more, but it's a cheap, large item that is now overpriced in my opinion.
details!
did you send him a message?
I have emailed him, but it was just a little bit ago, so no reply.
I'm not irked at the seller...I'm irked at eBay for not display the shipping price on every listing...and then having it pop up randomly after I bid. Just seems odd.
I wouldn't have bid if I would have known this. I was expecting $15 between shipping and supplies...."
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Contact the seller.
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Unless it's a glitch, the seller is in control of the display.
It's usually not EBAY's fault.
<< <i>"...I'm not irked at the seller...I'm irked at eBay for not display the shipping price on every listing...and then having it pop up randomly after I bid..."
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Unless it's a glitch, the seller is in control of the display.
It's usually not EBAY's fault. >>
Oh, good to know...
The sheet is 11 cards wide, less than 30 inches wide, so I figured 36 inches was a solid widest point estimate...we'll see what he says.
<< <i>"$52 in shipping for 25 cards. ($4 for the first auction and $2 for each additional auction won). "
I think you'd find that 90% of the folks would combine shipping, and if your bidding on that many multiple items from a seller; just drop them an email and ask what their policy is. Communication solves most problems
Yes, that was what I thought too as I was bidding. "Surely, they'll cap it at some point," I thought to myself. I thought after I reached the flat rate limit that the USPS charges they might cap it. They did not. To be clear, I don't blame them. They clearly stated their s&h and made no mention of a cap and they have every right to abide by that.
Boo- I see what you're saying though. It might decrease costs in the long run, but not because the seller is going to chop prices since they've circumvented eBays fees or anything like that. It'll decrease costs because my demand for this seller's product has decreased. I can buy most of these cards (including shipping) much cheaper from other sellers. So this seller will either have to decrease their opening bids or find another buyer.