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Will PCGS grade this blue barber?

MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
It's pretty - No juice, but I was shooting under a pretty white light.
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    Reverse looks "right" obverse looks "wrong"....
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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cannot find any hairlines at all with a loop. If it was cleaned, it was lightly and a long time ago.
    I think this is old Wayte Raymond album tone.
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭

    Personally, I like it and think it's NT.

    Does PCGS put AT coins in Genuine holders now?
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are some of toplinecoins' famous toners.

    That Barber is similar in blue coloring.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are all nice. I really like the look of that 61 seated half.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those are all nice. I really like the look of that 61 seated half. >>



    BTW, it's 50/50 that toplinecoins' coins are NT....I learned the hard way. image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here are some of toplinecoins' famous toners.

    That Barber is similar in blue coloring.

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    These all look like they came from the same AT collection...

    the previous owner had a large mutant thumbs like Uma Thurman in the movie Even Cowgirls get the Blues. image
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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I think it has a good chance at certification. From what you have said, I doubt the coin actually looks that irridescent and blue as it looks in the pics...if this is the case I think it might certify...if not...well not likely.
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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    I think it will be bagged for cleaning, sorry. It just looks "off" to me.



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    jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    They graded my blue Morgan:

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    The reverse on yours is odd.
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. They are bodybagging anything that looks even slightly different than bag or album toning, even if it is NT. Many coins with NT envelope toning are being bodybagged.
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    I think so. Weird look, huh?
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    66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the previous owner had a large mutant thumbs like Uma Thurman in the movie Even Cowgirls get the Blues. image >>



    whatchoo talkin' about Broadstruck? That's Textile Toningimage
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    So nice coins, very different
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really doubt it.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>the previous owner had a large mutant thumbs like Uma Thurman in the movie Even Cowgirls get the Blues. image >>



    whatchoo talkin' about Broadstruck? That's Textile Toningimage >>



    Some dude named Tex Toned em with a Tile imageimage

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I really doubt it. >>


    We're going to find out at the spring ana show here in Portland.
    It's part of a few keepers I plan to submit in person.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Personally, I like it and think it's NT.

    Does PCGS put AT coins in Genuine holders now? >>



    Yes, they do

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    I don't think it will grade. AT. The blue is too bright. And besides, the purple is not supposed to be mingled with the blue like that. The reverse has the purple starting and stopping at random spots; this is not good. Should be an even transition of color.
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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think it will grade. AT. The blue is too bright. And besides, the purple is not supposed to be mingled with the blue like that. The reverse has the purple starting and stopping at random spots; this is not good. Should be an even transition of color. >>


    What about the blue outlining the devices? Isn't that a pretty good indication of natural tarnish?
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    75% chance of grading, IMO.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so how does one make a coin blue like that if it is AT? As a non-numismatic physician, I don't know.
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    No one knows if its AT or NT. Not PCGS, not NGC, no one. It is one interesting looking coin at any rate.
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT... Genuine holder.
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    CaseyCasey Posts: 1,502 ✭✭
    I like it, but unsure whether PCGS will slab it. They didn't like this blue one - bagged for questionnable color.

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I don't think it will grade. AT. The blue is too bright. And besides, the purple is not supposed to be mingled with the blue like that. The reverse has the purple starting and stopping at random spots; this is not good. Should be an even transition of color. >>


    What about the blue outlining the devices? Isn't that a pretty good indication of natural tarnish? >>



    I see more of a residue pattern to the toning which makes me nervous. image

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    << <i>I don't think it will grade. AT. The blue is too bright. And besides, the purple is not supposed to be mingled with the blue like that. The reverse has the purple starting and stopping at random spots; this is not good. Should be an even transition of color. >>



    What about the blue outlining the devices? Isn't that a pretty good indication of natural tarnish? >>




    I agree...

    The coin had light circulation and then put up, the blue only toned the luster that was left around the devices...

    I give it a AU58, NT and a looker...

    Nothing like the TopLine coins, by the way that guy took the money and ran...
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    AthenaAthena Posts: 439 ✭✭✭
    So, how does one turn silver into blue silver?
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    << <i>I don't think it will grade. AT. The blue is too bright. And besides, the purple is not supposed to be mingled with the blue like that. The reverse has the purple starting and stopping at random spots; this is not good. Should be an even transition of color. >>


    What about the blue outlining the devices? Isn't that a pretty good indication of natural tarnish? >>



    Like DenverDave said, the circulation may have stopped it from toning in those worn spots. Then the coin was probably put into an environment that accelerated the toning process. jmj3esq's Morgan is how the light blue should look.
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    the obverse does look very strange.

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