<< <i>You could come to the southern side of gold and put together a Southern Gold Type Set by mint in high grade. Set would include 9 Dahlonega Type, 8 Charlotte Type, and 7 New Orleans Type for a very cool 24 coin set. There are several low mintage one year types that would make for a very challenging, yet obtainable set. >>
I like that idea too. Now...how hard would it be to find un0tampered coins? from all I have learned, old gold has been unbelievably aborted! >>
You hit the nail on the head. Even some of the once killer coins in the Dukes Creek collection were shined up before the last sale. Made me sick. But finding unmolested examples makes it a the real challenge and certainly adds to the fun. They can be found, but this is not a type of set that you can put together in short order. >>
The Southern Branch Mint coinage could be included as part of the Type Set.....that would be even more of a challenge........and with original coins really difficult to locate makes for a great "hunt"...........
Also look at many of the 1860s-1870s issues in the $2 1/2 and $5 Libs from Philly mint and you will see that they represent some of the lowest mintages in the series............and many are "sleepers" at today's levels which tranlates to excellent value for the money......and with mintages from 100 to 800 range they would seem to add even more wide spread appeal once completed.....
I know you like a good challenge and IF it were too easy to do it would probably not keep your interest!!!!!!!!!
Less than three dozen known (in all grades), with ten or so of these permanently ensconced in museums or government holdings.
Well known, headline grabbing name, always in demand, with a strong collector base, therefore easily resold.
What's not to like???
Mike >>
it's paper...paper tears and burns.
Those mid 19th C. P mints are a byatch in gold! Mintages of 200-300! That's outta my league.
Whassabout 18th C, dollars in TRUE AU55/58?? I'm talking REAL AU, no dipping, toned stuff, ie. tahoedale type coins. It's a small sliver of time but it's a tough series of varieties.
I suggest you get with the experts in the areas other than Saints. It will take you another 10 years to figure out the pq for grade coins, and the pricing in almost any market cycle.
In other words, any series you choose has real knowledgeable people who would be glad to help you.
I personally think that early bust coinage in any denomination has the best chance for price appreciation over the next 10 years, as long as it is PCGS graded, not dark, and with original -like surfaces/toning.
In fact I could spend that 250,000 on a couple of real nice coins
If you took your passion for knowledge in the areas you collect to other areas, I would really consider VAMs. Risk/Reward potential is huge. The only problem is your looking at thousands of coins and not the 3 top pops. This is one area that knowledge will pay off in a big way.
If I were to invest the money in coins, no questions, top pop foreign coins from major countries. Cheap as dirt and climbing by leaps and bounds annually, but still cheap enough for anyone to collect.
Otherwise if I were you I would stick to gold, once you have the gold bug, you can't shake it. Maybe a short set by mint or just plain old smaller gold coins to spice up your life.
A specialized collection of these will hold you in high esteem within the numismatic fraternity, and they will be a refreshing change from the bullion piece you've collected over the past few years. The 1933's will never come on the market so your collection of high grade key dates will never be complete. >>
SM tries the old 'Pump and Dump'.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< <i>I suggest you get with the experts in the areas other than Saints. It will take you another 10 years to figure out the pq for grade coins, and the pricing in almost any market cycle.
In other words, any series you choose has real knowledgeable people who would be glad to help you.
I personally think that early bust coinage in any denomination has the best chance for price appreciation over the next 10 years, as long as it is PCGS graded, not dark, and with original -like surfaces/toning.
In fact I could spend that 250,000 on a couple of real nice coins >>
Dale....did you read my preference for old bust coins/ALA tahoedale?
Here's a deal. I start Bust Halves, you start Saints? How's that? That way we have great coaches in each other and I can talk to Stacy on the phone during the day.
I'm late to this party, but I'd say that if you like nice Large Cents, they've got alot of charm, you can usually find original surfaces, they won't break your budget (mine - yes, yours, no), and the EAC and early copper guys that I've met are pretty nice.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
Since the obverse and reverse of Saints is a standing Ms. Liberty and a flying eagle reverse... how about working on a similar 20th century design just smaller and in silver
You could have a lot of fun with these on a $250K budget and it would keep you busy for the next decade or more finding superb examples like your saints!
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
Only six coins (11 with varieties), and it looks like nobody has all 6 in Choice BU or higher (at least on the registry). A set of original, un-messed with PQ 63s or 64s would be a huge set for the money, if you can find the coins.
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<< <i>You could come to the southern side of gold and put together a Southern Gold Type Set by mint in high grade. Set would include 9 Dahlonega Type, 8 Charlotte Type, and 7 New Orleans Type for a very cool 24 coin set. There are several low mintage one year types that would make for a very challenging, yet obtainable set. >>
I like that idea too. Now...how hard would it be to find un0tampered coins? from all I have learned, old gold has been unbelievably aborted!
You hit the nail on the head. Even some of the once killer coins in the Dukes Creek collection were shined up before the last sale. Made me sick. But finding unmolested examples makes it a the real challenge and certainly adds to the fun. They can be found, but this is not a type of set that you can put together in short order. >>
The Southern Branch Mint coinage could be included as part of the Type Set.....that would be even more of a challenge........and with original coins really difficult to locate makes for a great "hunt"...........
Also look at many of the 1860s-1870s issues in the $2 1/2 and $5 Libs from Philly mint and you will see that they represent some of the lowest mintages in the series............and many are "sleepers" at today's levels which tranlates to excellent value for the money......and with mintages from 100 to 800 range they would seem to add even more wide spread appeal once completed.....
I know you like a good challenge and IF it were too easy to do it would probably not keep your interest!!!!!!!!!
It really is all about the "hunt"
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
Here you go, Jay. I got your back...
Sold for $184K in September.
Less than three dozen known (in all grades), with ten or so of these permanently ensconced in museums or government holdings.
Well known, headline grabbing name, always in demand, with a strong collector base, therefore easily resold.
What's not to like???
Mike
You can begin with the Hesselgesser collection of dupe's to be sold at Long Beach.
He has the number one registry.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>Here you go, Jay. I got your back...
Sold for $184K in September.
Less than three dozen known (in all grades), with ten or so of these permanently ensconced in museums or government holdings.
Well known, headline grabbing name, always in demand, with a strong collector base, therefore easily resold.
What's not to like???
Mike >>
it's paper...paper tears and burns.
Those mid 19th C. P mints are a byatch in gold! Mintages of 200-300! That's outta my league.
Whassabout 18th C, dollars in TRUE AU55/58?? I'm talking REAL AU, no dipping, toned stuff, ie. tahoedale type coins. It's a small sliver of time but it's a tough series of varieties.
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<< <i>Mercs would be too small for the old man's eyes.
If he managed the money correctly, he'd have $10 left for a magnifier...
Oh...That deserves a FO!
I ain't THAT old. And I'm not even 1/100th as senile as Marty.
In other words, any series you choose has real knowledgeable people who would be glad to help you.
I personally think that early bust coinage in any denomination has the best chance for price appreciation over the next 10 years, as long as it is PCGS graded, not dark, and with original -like surfaces/toning.
In fact I could spend that 250,000 on a couple of real nice coins
If you took your passion for knowledge in the areas you collect to other areas, I would really consider VAMs. Risk/Reward potential is huge. The only problem is your looking at thousands of coins and not the 3 top pops. This is one area that knowledge will pay off in a big way.
If I were to invest the money in coins, no questions, top pop foreign coins from major countries. Cheap as dirt and climbing by leaps and bounds annually, but still cheap enough for anyone to collect.
Otherwise if I were you I would stick to gold, once you have the gold bug, you can't shake it. Maybe a short set by mint or just plain old smaller gold coins to spice up your life.
<< <i>Colorized commemorative ASE's
A specialized collection of these will hold you in high esteem within the numismatic fraternity, and they will be a refreshing change from the bullion piece you've collected over the past few years. The 1933's will never come on the market so your collection of high grade key dates will never be complete. >>
SM tries the old 'Pump and Dump'.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< <i>I suggest you get with the experts in the areas other than Saints. It will take you another 10 years to figure out the pq for grade coins, and the pricing in almost any market cycle.
In other words, any series you choose has real knowledgeable people who would be glad to help you.
I personally think that early bust coinage in any denomination has the best chance for price appreciation over the next 10 years, as long as it is PCGS graded, not dark, and with original -like surfaces/toning.
In fact I could spend that 250,000 on a couple of real nice coins
Dale....did you read my preference for old bust coins/ALA tahoedale?
Here's a deal. I start Bust Halves, you start Saints? How's that? That way we have great coaches in each other and I can talk to Stacy on the phone during the day.
I knew it would happen.
You could have a lot of fun with these on a $250K budget and it would keep you busy for the next decade or more finding superb examples like your saints!
Looks like an MS67?
<< <i>That's a really HOT 1920 D !
Looks like an MS67? >>
Few men are as numismatically charged & smart, but I just wanted to add the mintmark, Jay.
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<< <i>That's a really HOT 1920!
Looks like an MS67? >>
The 20-D is actually a AU58FH... But I like it as a AU67FH!
Only six coins (11 with varieties), and it looks like nobody has all 6 in Choice BU or higher (at least on the registry). A set of original, un-messed with PQ 63s or 64s would be a huge set for the money, if you can find the coins.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5