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Post your 1815 bust quarters, anyone out there?
Billet7
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Who has an 1815 quarter? Post em if you got em. Feel free to post any coins that dealers have also.
This seems to be a very hard coin to find problem free.
Mine is a bit dark, and a very low grade, but it is PCGS and a solid coin for the grade (G6) one day I will upgrade if the timing is right.
This seems to be a very hard coin to find problem free.
Mine is a bit dark, and a very low grade, but it is PCGS and a solid coin for the grade (G6) one day I will upgrade if the timing is right.
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Edited to add a much better picture:
I absolutely love the date. Like you said, Billet, very tough to find problem free. I like the crust of yours, very nice!
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A later clashed die stage...
The mysterious countermarked "E"...
The mysterious countermarked "L"...
QN
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- Jim
Edited to add: As usual, thank you to QN for showing us all up! Great pieces
<< <i>Wow, 'Thisnamztaken,' me thinks you got robbed on your 1815 only being called a 12. Looks VF all day to me. Nice coin!
Edited to add: As usual, thank you to QN for showing us all up! Great pieces >>
I would guess that it was net graded down a bit to reflect what looks to be pvc damage to the high points. Still a nice coin.
merse
<< <i>Wow, 'Thisnamztaken,' me thinks you got robbed on your 1815 only being called a 12. Looks VF all day to me. Nice coin! >>
I agree that the reverse is around VF20 and I think it's slightly under graded (should be F15) but I bought it already slabbed so knew what I was getting and think this date is tougher than most people realize (in VG10 or better), so picked it up.
- Jim
(Oops! Guess I've read too many auction catalog descriptions over the years.)
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<< <i>Here's mine. A PCGS F12 >>
<< <i>VF25... >>
Gee...these sure look like the exact same grade coin to me...
I think everyone can see why we should not rely on TPG's to grade our coins. In fact, the one that is graded VF-25 has two hits above the cap and a possible scratch between star 8 & 9 that should make it less desirable (no offense to the poster, as it is still a nice coin) and should have been net graded a little lower IMHO.
QN
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Here is my little PCGS G6 my brother found me on JJteaparty.
My new XF40
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And a little background:
VOTE THE LAND / FREE
This counterstamp/countermark is predominately found stamped on U.S. Large cents. This is the only known example found on any Bust coin.
While for many years it had been believed this stamp was somehow tied to the FREE SOIL PARTY in the presidential election of 1848, it is now thought to possibly be connected with the NATIONAL REFORM ASSOCIATION, which was formed in 1844.
This was a minor political party in the election of 1844 whose platform advocated the giving of free land to homesteaders, prohibiting the seizure of land for failure to pay debts, and “land limitation” to reduce the proportion of land controlled by the wealthy. In other words...VOTE THE LAND FREE.
(This and more info is available in both the Brunk counterstamp book & "United States Tokens" by Rulau.)
QN
Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!
My first one (VG8):
and my upgrade (VG10):
JH
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<< <i>PCGS F12 Amazing how the grading is all over the place on these.
Agreed. Honestly I think mine's a weak Fine. I anticipated it coming back as a VG10. Yours on the otherhand was clearly net graded, because of the dig on the obverse. I would give it a 15 with a shot at 20 but for the mark...which is why it came back as a 12 IMHO.
I have also noticed that pieces of this date in lower grades tend to have weak banners. Other dates in VG and Fine grades usually have a full banner, but with the case of the 1815 they are usually half gone, even in grades as high as a 12, 15 or even 20! This makes me think that it was either weakly struck, or the topography of the coin lends it's self to different wear patterns than later years...possibly both. It's obvious that the 1815 has a different design than later years, probably due to having to redo the dies because of the mint fire in 1815-1816.
I do agree with the grading of these being all other the map.
Does anyone have these coins with a CAC sticker ??? I think some of these should easily sticker at CAC if this is the case.
<< <i>Here's another one of mine...
And a little background:
VOTE THE LAND / FREE
This counterstamp/countermark is predominately found stamped on U.S. Large cents. This is the only known example found on any Bust coin.
While for many years it had been believed this stamp was somehow tied to the FREE SOIL PARTY in the presidential election of 1848, it is now thought to possibly be connected with the NATIONAL REFORM ASSOCIATION, which was formed in 1844.
This was a minor political party in the election of 1844 whose platform advocated the giving of free land to homesteaders, prohibiting the seizure of land for failure to pay debts, and “land limitation” to reduce the proportion of land controlled by the wealthy. In other words...VOTE THE LAND FREE.
(This and more info is available in both the Brunk counterstamp book & "United States Tokens" by Rulau.)
QN >>
That is one sweet find Steve. I would give my left.., well i would give something. Cool as heck coin, I would be curious to how you got your hands on it? I also would like frist dibs if it ever comes up for sale.
<< <i>Does anyone have these coins with a CAC sticker ??? I think some of these should easily sticker at CAC if this is the case. >>
The second one I posted has a bean.
JH
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I have also noticed that pieces of this date in lower grades tend to have weak banners. Other dates in VG and Fine grades usually have a full banner, but with the case of the 1815 they are usually half gone, even in grades as high as a 12, 15 or even 20! This makes me think that it was either weakly struck, or the topography of the coin lends it's self to different wear patterns than later years...possibly both. It's obvious that the 1815 has a different design than later years, probably due to having to redo the dies because of the mint fire in 1815-1816. >>
Yes, I agree that they probably net graded mine. Im really not a big fan of net grading circulated coins though. We arent talking MS coins here, we are grading based on the amount of wear for circulated coins. If there is a problem beyond "normal" for a circulating coin, keep it out of the holders.
Also, the weak area you see on your 1815, I see even more so on the 1828 coins. I have seen this weakness even on high grades too, as its opposite the lower bust and has problems striking up.
This is also very common on the bust half coins too.
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<< <i>Here's my newer one.
<< <i>PCGS F12 Amazing how the grading is all over the place on these.
<< <i>
there are a lot of ways to make a certain grade in an early coin, details yes, but also accounting for strike and die state, cleanings and field digs and other circulation marks in the grade opinion, or whether or not to "genuine" it
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<< <i>Here's one.
Very nice